iginla
Chick Zamick
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Post by iginla on Jun 2, 2018 20:21:44 GMT
But all those Cardiff players you list are just tough players who will fight if necessary,just like Olsen and Hughes would. The only enforcer the Devils had was Bordeleau and he would hardly fight,other than to get revenge on that Coventry guy who had sucker punched him previously. Why is it ok for Hotham,Lord or Haddad etc to fight and sit in the box.....but “oh my word we don’t want Olsen or Hughes fighting because we need them on the ice ? I cant recall them 3 having a fight last season, Cardiff’s out and out enforcer was Faryna. We need a player that is a deterrent, not somebody who will fight if they have to. I didn’t say those three did fight.......Jdizpt8 did ! But Hotham certainly does fight and Lords had a few now and again. And Faryna isn’t an enforcer,he’s a middleweight tough guy like a Kevin Bergin or Kelsey Wilson was.
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Post by wgray on Jun 2, 2018 20:46:54 GMT
I cant recall them 3 having a fight last season, Cardiff’s out and out enforcer was Faryna. We need a player that is a deterrent, not somebody who will fight if they have to. I didn’t say those three did fight.......Jdizpt8 did ! But Hotham certainly does fight and Lords had a few now and again. And Faryna isn’t an enforcer,he’s a middleweight tough guy like a Kevin Bergin or Kelsey Wilson was. I agree, Faryna did extremely well against Gagnon though last season. I think we just need a player who is going to make opposition teams think twice before acting, Gagnon fits that bill but if Cherno can find another player to do that then perfect.
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Post by wgray on Jun 2, 2018 20:51:52 GMT
Plus Sheffield will probably be looking to bring in another enforcer after getting rid of Fitzgerald, I’m sure he will be an upgrade as well.
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EMB
Randall Weber
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Post by EMB on Jun 2, 2018 21:14:29 GMT
They may well take Gagz if we don’t.
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Joe
Jim Keyes
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Post by Joe on Jun 2, 2018 21:21:53 GMT
They may well take Gagz if we don’t. With the supposed 2 year deals that our imports were on last year, If we don’t sign gagnon then I believe we have the ability to stop him from joining another EIHL team for the coming season
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Jord v4
Ken Westman
Harbinger of Doom
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Post by Jord v4 on Jun 2, 2018 21:37:52 GMT
They may well take Gagz if we don’t. With the supposed 2 year deals that our imports were on last year, If we don’t sign gagnon then I believe we have the ability to stop him from joining another EIHL team for the coming season If we don't want to sign them they can go anywhere.
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Post by wannabe2 on Jun 2, 2018 22:19:18 GMT
Hotham had 3 fights, Lord hardly played, and Haddad didn’t fight at all.
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Post by cjones on Jun 3, 2018 5:55:11 GMT
We need a tough guy, what’s the point of Olsen and Hughes sitting in the box when we need them on the ice. Gagnon knows the role, knows the league, knows the refs and best of all other coaches and players know what he can do. He’s a no brainer to bring back should he want to. Cardiff have had tough guys the last few years, they’ve had Mark Louis the last two years, Batch, Bordy, Lord, Faryna, Hotham, Haddad, Mychan. All guys who have and would fight and can do so well. Panthers will end up with Gagnon or tough guy and I’d bet a proper power forward (salters esc) Just maybe not labelled as a tough guy. But all those Cardiff players you list are just tough players who will fight if necessary,just like Olsen and Hughes would. The only enforcer the Devils had was Bordeleau and he would hardly fight,other than to get revenge on that Coventry guy who had sucker punched him previously. Why is it ok for Hotham,Lord or Haddad etc to fight and sit in the box.....but “oh my word we don’t want Olsen or Hughes fighting because we need them on the ice ? We have similar arguments in Cardiff about Lord’s preference now for ‘team’ toughness. I prefer it. Up until last season I would worry each time Hotham fought in case he suffered a hand injury that would then force him out of the side for a period of time; because we had depth last season I did not have the same worry. People always list Haddad as a player who would drop the gloves but I can only remember one time he did and that was in the Big Blue Tent 3 seasons ago - think he lost that one. Last season Faryna had a few fights, and so did Reddick; I know, our smallest D man lol But he stepped up even so. The others hardly had to do much fighting. I don’t think we were bullied at all last season, the toughest games I think were in Manchester but then that team was huge on their small pad. Yet many of our fans thought we were bullied. Isn’t it great having varying views lol
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Post by wannabe2 on Jun 3, 2018 9:05:18 GMT
Joey Haddad has only had 2 fights since he has been here. 1. Against Chalmers of Coventry 2. Against Bohmbach of Panthers.
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Post by SteelerBlade on Jun 3, 2018 10:53:22 GMT
Cardiff have changed the role of the EIHL enforcer. Had players like Faryna, Louis, Strachan etc who were exellent players but also offered toughness when called upon.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Jun 3, 2018 13:40:28 GMT
But all those Cardiff players you list are just tough players who will fight if necessary,just like Olsen and Hughes would. The only enforcer the Devils had was Bordeleau and he would hardly fight,other than to get revenge on that Coventry guy who had sucker punched him previously. Why is it ok for Hotham,Lord or Haddad etc to fight and sit in the box.....but “oh my word we don’t want Olsen or Hughes fighting because we need them on the ice ? I cant recall them 3 having a fight last season, Cardiff’s out and out enforcer was Faryna. We need a player that is a deterrent, not somebody who will fight if they have to. We don’t want Olsen and Hughes fighting, we need them playing every shift because they’re quality players and will both be top 4 D men. I never said they fought last season I said they’ve fought. For me I’d have had Gagnon back as our enforcer and let the rest of the D just play hockey.
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Post by wgray on Jun 3, 2018 13:42:42 GMT
I cant recall them 3 having a fight last season, Cardiff’s out and out enforcer was Faryna. We need a player that is a deterrent, not somebody who will fight if they have to. We don’t want Olsen and Hughes fighting, we need them playing every shift because they’re quality players and will both be top 4 D men. I never said they fought last season I said they’ve fought. For me I’d have had Gagnon back as our enforcer and let the rest of the D just play hockey. I agree with you completely.
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