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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 18:01:08 GMT
I think Shalla was made a scapegoat (a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency) CN as only 1 attribute, thats take a good player and make him into a average one. I think what Gagnon's says in the Nottingham post is just Panthers PR stuff He was and I said that at the time
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Post by iginla on Jan 11, 2018 20:27:32 GMT
I see Fife are not resting on their good league position and have signed a spare forward today,bringing in Brady Ramsay ex Steelers player.
If only ! 🙄
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Post by pantherdman on Jan 11, 2018 20:45:26 GMT
Our last 3 seasons have been scripted. Start well. Get some injuries, forced to play short. Christmas wheels fall off. Load of lip service and pop touted in the press. Fire a scapegoat player Wait too long to replace The league is gone but money saved Bring in a player or two Try to scrape a few good results in a cup comp. Repeat year on year.
The noises coming from ex players shows the extent the make do attitude is ingrained in the club.
Where’s our Jordan fox? Get him back and make him coach we will do better than .500 hockey guaranteed
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Post by fishman on Jan 11, 2018 20:50:59 GMT
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Post by jd on Jan 11, 2018 21:14:05 GMT
Our last 3 seasons have been scripted. Start well. Get some injuries, forced to play short. Christmas wheels fall off. Load of lip service and pop touted in the press. Fire a scapegoat player Wait too long to replace The league is gone but money saved Bring in a player or two Try to scrape a few good results in a cup comp. Repeat year on year. The noises coming from ex players shows the extent the make do attitude is ingrained in the club. Where’s our Jordan fox? Get him back and make him coach we will do better than .500 hockey guaranteed Guaranteed? Bold statement to make Who did we fire last season?
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Jan 11, 2018 21:47:20 GMT
Ha ha not the Lepine you’d want but at least it’s a body in their lineup!
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Post by iginla on Jan 11, 2018 21:54:31 GMT
Our last 3 seasons have been scripted. Start well. Get some injuries, forced to play short. Christmas wheels fall off. Load of lip service and pop touted in the press. Fire a scapegoat player Wait too long to replace The league is gone but money saved Bring in a player or two Try to scrape a few good results in a cup comp. Repeat year on year. The noises coming from ex players shows the extent the make do attitude is ingrained in the club. Where’s our Jordan fox? Get him back and make him coach we will do better than .500 hockey guaranteed Guaranteed? Bold statement to make Who did we fire last season? Petr Kalus Although he wasn’t here long.
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Post by jd on Jan 11, 2018 22:15:20 GMT
Guaranteed? Bold statement to make Who did we fire last season? Petr Kalus Although he wasn’t here long. Only 6 league games, another strange signing. Like when McAslan came back for a handful. So who would you have in charge next season?
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Post by iginla on Jan 11, 2018 23:18:20 GMT
Petr Kalus Although he wasn’t here long. Only 6 league games, another strange signing. Like when McAslan came back for a handful. So who would you have in charge next season? Somebody who has passion and isn't afraid to kick players backsides and also stand up to Moran and Black......never going to happen though ! Of those in this league,I'd say Pete Russell or Ryan Finnerty would be the only realistic candidates. You wouldn't move Lord,Thompson or Keefe and wouldn't want any of the others. But I'd be happy to try a coach we've never heard of. My first choice from who we know,if he has the coaching credentials needed......Brock Wilson.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jan 12, 2018 1:06:56 GMT
Petr Kalus Although he wasn’t here long. Only 6 league games, another strange signing. Like when McAslan came back for a handful. So who would you have in charge next season? I seem to recall that Kalus was brought in a short term covering contract mainly for the Continental Cup. Apparently he was not a disruptive force as some would imply but wasn't good at following team instructions. He scored some important goals and his record in Poland is good this year. Personally I enjoyed seeing someone with skill on the puck and ould have liked to see someone of his like this season -in spite of his failings I would welcome him back. Again at least Jade was a good bet in one on ones (on ice and in the bar) and of course Jordan Fox gave us that extra skill level. Regarding Finnerty as a coach - sacked at Steelers and Braehead is not a great advert for his coaching ability. Jamie Back is in the States so presumably he should be able to check on options there. I feel we need a change in direction - as already posted. Brock is certainly passionate about Panthers, but does that justify a coaching appointment?
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Post by jd on Jan 12, 2018 9:25:56 GMT
Only 6 league games, another strange signing. Like when McAslan came back for a handful. So who would you have in charge next season? Somebody who has passion and isn't afraid to kick players backsides and also stand up to Moran and Black......never going to happen though ! Of those in this league,I'd say Pete Russell or Ryan Finnerty would be the only realistic candidates. You wouldn't move Lord,Thompson or Keefe and wouldn't want any of the others. But I'd be happy to try a coach we've never heard of. My first choice from who we know,if he has the coaching credentials needed......Brock Wilson. Finnerty? For real? Why do you think Brock Wilson would do better than Corey?
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Post by mattscold on Jan 12, 2018 9:47:05 GMT
Whats Paul Adey doing these days...? If i had my way we would have someone like Adey as a Director of Hockey Operations, they make the signings and pick the coach. That way we could keep GM on (if we really have to) to look after the business side.
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Post by iginla on Jan 12, 2018 12:01:57 GMT
Somebody who has passion and isn't afraid to kick players backsides and also stand up to Moran and Black......never going to happen though ! Of those in this league,I'd say Pete Russell or Ryan Finnerty would be the only realistic candidates. You wouldn't move Lord,Thompson or Keefe and wouldn't want any of the others. But I'd be happy to try a coach we've never heard of. My first choice from who we know,if he has the coaching credentials needed......Brock Wilson. Finnerty? For real? Why do you think Brock Wilson would do better than Corey? We need a change and not another “yes man” who won’t rock the boat. Finnerty wouldn’t be my first choice but he recruits some decent players on a limited budget and isn’t afraid to say it how it is. Gerard Adams is the same,he would do a job at Panthers, same as Brock Wilson. Adey yes him too,he would do it differently but I can’t see him back whilst ever Moran is still hanging around ! The club just needs a bloody good shake up and another weak yes man is just not going to change anything. Can you imagine Thompson at Panthers....it wouldn’t last a month the way Panthers dawdle around !
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Post by DMS on Jan 12, 2018 12:31:26 GMT
Only 6 league games, another strange signing. Like when McAslan came back for a handful. So who would you have in charge next season? Somebody who has passion and isn't afraid to kick players backsides and also stand up to Moran and Black......never going to happen though ! Of those in this league,I'd say Pete Russell or Ryan Finnerty would be the only realistic candidates. You wouldn't move Lord,Thompson or Keefe and wouldn't want any of the others. But I'd be happy to try a coach we've never heard of. My first choice from who we know,if he has the coaching credentials needed......Brock Wilson. I don’t get the whole Brock Wilson Love in. All he does is say things many have said before and will no doubt say again. He also only ever seems to appear when there’s chance to promote his own agendas. I’d rather have someone completely new to the organisation however I believe it’ll just likely be someone from within like usual.
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Post by pantherlee on Jan 12, 2018 12:41:20 GMT
Having a new fresh face doesn't necessarily lead to improvement. Look at John Tripp
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Post by iginla on Jan 12, 2018 13:07:01 GMT
Having a new fresh face doesn't necessarily lead to improvement. Look at John Tripp No it doesn’t. But doing the same thing over and over again hasn’t exactly been great either. We need a change of mentality because Panthers has just become stale and pretty boring the last 4 or 5 years.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 12, 2018 13:35:59 GMT
Having a new fresh face doesn't necessarily lead to improvement. Look at John Tripp Tripp's only had a few months at it in a new league, if they give him a few years and perform worse than Finnerty did then fair enough, it was a wrong move. Same will be true for whoever (Clarke) follows Corey (not that I expect that to happen any time soon), will have to be given a fair crack of the whip, even if results take a dip in the early stages.
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Post by pantherlee on Jan 12, 2018 14:54:11 GMT
We do need a change of mentality. I wasn't defending corey. He has been here too long now but there doesn't seem to be an obvious direction to go in. As has been pointed out Adey and other proven EIHL coaches probably won't come, Brock Wilson, Jordan Fox, David Clarke etc don't have any coaching experience and a brand new face may be greeted well and things could get better or they could get a whole lot worse like what is currently Happening in Braehead
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Post by pantherlee on Jan 12, 2018 14:56:54 GMT
Having a new fresh face doesn't necessarily lead to improvement. Look at John Tripp Tripp's only had a few months at it in a new league, if they give him a few years and perform worse than Finnerty did then fair enough, it was a wrong move. Same will be true for whoever (Clarke) follows Corey (not that I expect that to happen any time soon), will have to be given a fair crack of the whip, even if results take a dip in the early stages. True but he only started the league with 12 imports which is just a recipe for disaster. If people think Corey struggles to recruit then Braehead don't seem to have a clue at the minute. Just look at the new guy. Hardly played any pro hockey at a decent level
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Post by tootootrain on Jan 12, 2018 15:51:34 GMT
Just look at the new guy. Hardly played any pro hockey at a decent level Some of the best hockey coaches have little pro experience. Mike Babcock
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Post by Bagheera on Jan 12, 2018 16:28:52 GMT
Just look at the new guy. Hardly played any pro hockey at a decent level Some of the best hockey coaches have little pro experience. Mike BabcockOld school British hockey ey. 132 points in 36 games. 😂 3.67 ppg.
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Post by pantherlee on Jan 12, 2018 16:37:50 GMT
Just look at the new guy. Hardly played any pro hockey at a decent level Some of the best hockey coaches have little pro experience. Mike BabcockI was talking about the new player they've got
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Post by anc65 on Jan 12, 2018 21:32:36 GMT
Finally registered to comment after years of reading. Gas Shallow no replacement, laser focused on the league I don't think so.
I've spent the last 10 years to be deflated by Christmas every year bar one and to think I believed this year would be different.
If we can't carry spares like other arena teams and be competitive with supposedly the biggest budget we need a change of direction.
Until that happens I think my 4 silver match days tickets 50/50 and shirt of his back money is going to stay home, I doubt my £70 a week will bother Mr Moran or Mr Black but if others followed suit maybe the change may happen.
I have supported my team through good and bad I'll be in Cardiff on 4 March if we make it but Nottingham Arena will see no more of my cash untill a signing arrives
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Post by pantherdman on Jan 12, 2018 21:38:52 GMT
Finally registered to comment after years of reading. Gas Shallow no replacement, laser focused on the league I don't think so. I've spent the last 10 years to be deflated by Christmas every year bar one and to think I believed this year would be different. If we can't carry spares like other arena teams and be competitive with supposedly the biggest budget we need a change of direction. Until that happens I think my 4 silver match days tickets 50/50 and shirt of his back money is going to stay home, I doubt my £70 a week will bother Mr Moran or Mr Black but if others followed suit maybe the change may happen. I have supported my team through good and bad I'll be in Cardiff on 4 March if we make it but Nottingham Arena will see no more of my cash untill a signing arrives Can’t blame you. 100s of fans have already gone this way, many more will follow. It equates to thousands and thousands of lost revenue long term. When will black wake up?
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Post by shinobi on Jan 12, 2018 21:48:47 GMT
Finally registered to comment after years of reading. Gas Shallow no replacement, laser focused on the league I don't think so. I've spent the last 10 years to be deflated by Christmas every year bar one and to think I believed this year would be different. If we can't carry spares like other arena teams and be competitive with supposedly the biggest budget we need a change of direction. Until that happens I think my 4 silver match days tickets 50/50 and shirt of his back money is going to stay home, I doubt my £70 a week will bother Mr Moran or Mr Black but if others followed suit maybe the change may happen. I have supported my team through good and bad I'll be in Cardiff on 4 March if we make it but Nottingham Arena will see no more of my cash untill a signing arrives Can’t blame you. 100s of fans have already gone this way, many more will follow. It equates to thousands and thousands of lost revenue long term. When will black wake up? I think you’re wrong; fans that no longer attend for whatever reason are easily replaced. Everyone who attends has the right to support the team in whatever way they want to; if it’s die hard like most on here or whether it’s those who come before a night out on the town, but either way, the money still comes into the club as Panthers’ are a crowd puller.
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