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Post by ant on Jan 7, 2018 19:25:13 GMT
Where are they? Tonight signalled the end of our league campaign and still no BIG signings. Totally unacceptable!
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Yotes
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Post by Yotes on Jan 7, 2018 19:43:00 GMT
We've not lost tonight, yet. Keep your powder dry.
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Post by ant on Jan 7, 2018 19:59:50 GMT
Our problems go much further than tonight.
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 7, 2018 20:06:33 GMT
Our problems go much further than tonight. Or this season.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 7, 2018 20:26:11 GMT
To stick to the topic, I suspect Ted is correct and that we'll see some movement once we're within the short term visa window in a few days.
Either that or Neilson really has completely run out of ideas on that front.
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Post by ant on Jan 7, 2018 20:29:06 GMT
Needs to be big and multiple now. One mediocre forward won't cut it.
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 7, 2018 20:43:23 GMT
Might as well wait and take time now. Save a bit more money. League is gone. We won't drop out of playoffs so as long as they are in for Challenge Cup semi finals.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 7, 2018 20:47:53 GMT
Despite being a season ticket holder and despite having booked to go Belfast next week and Scotland in March, I think a marque signing this week would tip me over the edge. The season has gone today, not because we lost a single game but because we've allowed ourselves to be so far back. We're closer to not making the playoffs than win the league. If we sign someone now, what is the effing point? You're fiddling while Rome has already burnt to a crisp, let alone still burning.
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Post by ant on Jan 7, 2018 21:11:39 GMT
Ling back at Brampton so not coming. Shame.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Jan 7, 2018 21:35:22 GMT
Neilson will be in for saving his skin for the CC and Playoffs, there’s no rush (honestly, how many seasons has it been the same?!)
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Mark
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Post by Mark on Jan 7, 2018 22:31:39 GMT
Why do the club deem it acceptable to hold back on changes until the league has effectively gone? The time to act was the beginning of December, but until the cherry on the manure cake that was Sheffield happened, did the coach even dribble about changes, and since then nothing. Treated with utter contempt, yet again. I despise the people running our club.
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Post by jd on Jan 8, 2018 8:04:19 GMT
We won’t sign anyone
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jan 8, 2018 12:29:22 GMT
I think we will sign somone- NB must be aware that at least an attempt at the play offs and Cup would keep some supporters interested. Regarding the league - as far as I am concerned that had gone 2 - 3 weeks ago. GM does not come across well sometimes. However his main duties are off ice, so although it might be good to use him as the pantomime villain, he can only arrange contracts and other things. Who is signed and how they play is not up to him.
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Post by dill1015 on Jan 8, 2018 12:33:19 GMT
I think we will sign somone- NB must be aware that at least an attempt at the play offs and Cup would keep some supporters interested. Regarding the league - as far as I am concerned that had gone 2 - 3 weeks ago. GM does not come across well sometimes. However his main duties are off ice, so although it might be good to use him as the pantomime villain, he can only arrange contracts and other things. Who is signed and how they play is not up to him. Whilst that should be how it works im not sure thats the case. By many accounts GM has more than a hand in saying who is signed. And is the reason some players avoid the club. Also he is a tricky person to work with which has affected many players on the ice for various reasons.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jan 8, 2018 12:54:10 GMT
I understand that GM doe not have a final say. Perhaps he can suggest. Like most GM's he will be circularised as to who is available and will pass it on.
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Post by Mark on Jan 8, 2018 13:06:04 GMT
Moran won't be going anywhere as he makes Black a tidy profit. Doesn't matter what he does as long as that's the case.
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Post by BigLad on Jan 8, 2018 16:00:48 GMT
Never mind 2 forwards, we need a d-man that can clear the crease. The current lot are playing so soft at the mo.
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Post by iginla on Jan 8, 2018 17:11:21 GMT
Never mind 2 forwards, we need a d-man that can clear the crease. The current lot are playing so soft at the mo. Yep they are soft. Where is Billingsley,the hard hitting “Billdozer” that we were promised ? So far I’ve hardly seen him hit anything ! The only one who hits occasionally is Sauve.
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Post by rjc on Jan 8, 2018 17:33:26 GMT
From what I understand NB & GM have a budget meeting in the off season and the budget is agreed. CN then does his recruiting, GM does the final negotiations on salary / contract etc. So long as the team is within NBs budget he is not interested on who comes in. Does the GM suggest what type of player is recruited??? You could well imagine him saying we want a franchise player ala McGratten to draw in the crowds.
If mid season it is felt additional players are needed GM gets approval from NB and the players salary amount is agreed, CN then goes searching.
In Shalla's case I've heard CN got a message from a very unhappy NB simply saying enough is enough, sack somebody and replace him. Why CN had to wait and be told what to do who knows; personally I think he's too weak to make tough decisions (well his NEP article said he hated sacking people).
For me even if we signed 2 or 3 marquee players we won't win the league unless Cardiff has an epic bout of bad form like we have had and, with their depth and quality spares I just can't see it happening.
As a side note someone mentioned to me a week or so ago that there was something in the match magazine about some important off ice news/changes happening in the off season, if true dare we speculate GM to retire?? CN to move on?? Can only hope.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Jan 8, 2018 18:16:40 GMT
Probably the inflatable panther being offered an extended contract
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Post by wasteoftime on Jan 8, 2018 18:36:16 GMT
Some of you need to ask Ellis and Adey. You might have a shock.
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Post by iginla on Jan 8, 2018 18:46:31 GMT
Some of you need to ask Ellis and Adey. You might have a shock. Indeed they do. I can think of one glaring example of a re signing against the coach’s wishes...John Craighead. He was most definitely NOT brought back by the coach.
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Post by sevcik on Jan 8, 2018 18:59:44 GMT
Some of you need to ask Ellis and Adey. You might have a shock. Indeed they do. I can think of one glaring example of a re signing against the coach’s wishes...John Craighead. He was most definitely NOT brought back by the coach. Add Calle Carlsson & Marcus Adolfsson to the list of players that were signed by someone other than the coach of the time...
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 8, 2018 19:40:06 GMT
Indeed they do. I can think of one glaring example of a re signing against the coach’s wishes...John Craighead. He was most definitely NOT brought back by the coach. Add Calle Carlsson & Marcus Adolfsson to the list of players that were signed by someone other than the coach of the time... Sorry to hijack the thread but any news on that Q&A recording Sevcik?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 20:06:30 GMT
Apparently Craighead’s re-signing had far reaching impact as quite a few players refused to come back to Panthers if he was there. GM stands for Great Meddler.
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