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Post by jd on Oct 7, 2017 21:35:09 GMT
Well,that's 18 games now and I'm still waiting for Mark Derlago to turn up ! We need a sniper and quick !!!! Faceoff winning centre would be nice too.
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Post by Mark on Oct 7, 2017 22:08:05 GMT
Signed another goalie when we really need a goal scorer. Totally outplayed and outshot Sheffield and lost. We havenโt actually got a powerplay.
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Post by iginla on Oct 7, 2017 22:10:54 GMT
Only times we had a decent powerplay in the Neilson years was with Tessier and Ling wasn't it? Was ok with Galbraith to. Our powerplay was excellent with Ling and Tessier,good with Galbraith.......not hard to work out what we need is it ! Without that killer pass master the powerplay struggles. We need that passer and either Derlago to start scoring or cut him and bring in a sniper who will.
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Post by mmmbop on Oct 7, 2017 22:13:13 GMT
Time for Derlargo's holiday to come to an end
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Post by Higgy on Oct 7, 2017 22:14:11 GMT
Weird game and our season summed up domestically.
Dominate possession but just pass the puck around in pretty patterns and then the opposition score.
So so frustrating as we have so much talent in this team it is criminal we can't score
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Post by wgray on Oct 7, 2017 22:48:54 GMT
Jesus guys let's not go over the top here, many people were touting Derlago to be a top class sniper, but I personally don't think we're getting to see that because of who's he's playing with. He's fantastic on the boards, extremely strong and wins every battle when the puck has been dumped in deep, I think we need to put players with him to work to these strengths. Lets reshuffle the lines before we start picking on players and saying they aren't good enough.
People are very quick to overreact...
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Post by dill1015 on Oct 7, 2017 23:00:04 GMT
Jesus guys let's not go over the top here, many people were touting Derlago to be a top class sniper, but I personally don't think we're getting to see that because of who's he's playing with. He's fantastic on the boards, extremely strong and wins every battle when the puck has been dumped in deep, I think we need to put players with him to work to these strengths. Lets reshuffle the lines before we start picking on players and saying they aren't good enough. People are very quick to overreact... I agree a reahuffle is needed. The chemistry just isnt there on our top and 3rd line atm.
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Post by Mark on Oct 7, 2017 23:35:11 GMT
We really do need somebody to start putting the puck in the net. Should have been over after two periods tonight. Winning all those battles added up to zilch because we couldnโt score.
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Post by iginla on Oct 7, 2017 23:59:33 GMT
We really do need somebody to start putting the puck in the net. Should have been over after two periods tonight. Winning all those battles added up to zilch because we couldnโt score. It should have been over after one period mate,never mind two !
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 0:05:42 GMT
It could have been worse, we could have lost and not created any chances!
Keep playing this way and the wins will come
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Post by kievthegreat on Oct 8, 2017 0:07:38 GMT
My issue is when we have possession and we move down low, we are very slow getting passes across. We seem to be making an extra move and then either running out of space for any pass or having to turn around. We don't seem to have anyone who can make that killer pass.
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Post by PantherG on Oct 8, 2017 0:15:09 GMT
Jesus guys let's not go over the top here, many people were touting Derlago to be a top class sniper, but I personally don't think we're getting to see that because of who's he's playing with. He's fantastic on the boards, extremely strong and wins every battle when the puck has been dumped in deep, I think we need to put players with him to work to these strengths. Lets reshuffle the lines before we start picking on players and saying they aren't good enough. People are very quick to overreact... I think people are right to react, domestically we have struggled to find goals, in the league games we a have won 4 games by by only one goal, while making the opposition netminders look like NHL keepers. We have lost two league games by 2 and 3 goals! Our shot to goal conversion is by far the worst in the league, yes we sit at the bottom of the table with only 19 goals from 253 shots, while Sheffield have 10 more goals from only 23 more shots! Our embarrassing powerplay unit is sitting in tenth with a PPG conversion of 14.29 whereas Sheffield are sitting on almost 30%, even Dundee are sitting 10% above us. This team has potential to sweep aside the opposition, but it'll never happen unless we start scoring goals on all those shots and finding a decent PP unit, who can take advantage of the extra man. I think the CHL success is sticking plasters over what is a very disappointing start to the domestic season and if I was Corey I would be really worried, unless he thinks with qualification for the CHL last 16 that it's job done and we can sit back and the let the season motor on to the end and not worry as we can dine out on some huge scalps in Aug/Sept. If we are laser focused on the league then something needs to give... I hope we can find the right chemistry, but personally I think we need at least one change to line up to make us start to tick.... We have some great players, but do we have the right players to win the league???
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Post by PantherG on Oct 8, 2017 0:15:58 GMT
It could have been worse, we could have lost and not created any chances! Keep playing this way and the wins will come But will we? We have been saying that for weeks, but we are yet to win by more thank one goal? I am concerned.
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Post by wgray on Oct 8, 2017 0:46:28 GMT
We were the better team but lost, once we click and take our chances we will be steamrolling teams, a reshuffle of lines and hopefully this will happen.
The frustration is due to the fact that we are playing well and teams are just sitting back and trying to counter. It was a cup game, we take the loss into account, learn from tonight and put it right in the league games next week.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Oct 8, 2017 2:50:37 GMT
Said it in the Turku game thread... its ridiculous to sit through domestic games when we can beat Bern or shutout Turku. Honestly takes the p**s our the fans!
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Post by Higgy on Oct 8, 2017 8:14:12 GMT
This team suits the faster CHL style of play where there is a little more space but the clutch and grab which quite a few EIHL teams employ just doesn't suit our style of play.
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 8, 2017 8:54:03 GMT
Another frustrating domestic game. We just cant score. Our scoring percentage is awful. We make keepers look good. For me its time to change the lines. We're basically playing with one scoring line. Phillips and Derlago have not clicked and need splitting up to see if we can get anything out of them. This is what i've been thinking. No question our domestic form is a concern. I do think at some point it will click and somebody will get destroyed. The question is, how long is too long to wait? Derlargo and Philips together do a lot of pretty things together and at some point they could do the same amd it will all come together. I think it's time to split the two of them up and see how they work with different players. As a pair they have had Buisseries, Mokshantev and Mosey(Brown for a game too) and it's just not happened. Individually I don't think anybody deserves the axe. Derlargo works his nuts off, has great hands, really strong against the boards and even does a great job deffensively. He beings a lot to the team. Unfortunatly he isn't doing his primary role of putting up points. He shows enough to deserve a slot. Let's try him with a differnt centre and see what changes. Hopefully get more out of Philips then too. I said a few weeks ago and i'll say the same again. Take Europe out of this season and I think a lot more people would be concerned. Luckily Europe has shown what they are capable of. More time for this group yet, just needs to change pretty quickly. Next weekend is a big one for sure.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Oct 8, 2017 11:03:45 GMT
Brief points 1. Conceding 2 goals on the break first period after dominating - not good 2. Power play oh yes and power plays - also -------- A 5 on 3 and then a long power play produced nothing, To me it seems a very slow build up and their D just drifts across with the position of the puck. 3. As mentioned not enough conversion of shots on goal. I have been saying for a few weeks that I haven't really seen the passer of the likes of Ling (maybe not possible to get) or Heerema. Not a good night for Aladdin with Braehead in from of a sell out crowd going down to Fife 7-1. Re Derlago - an enigma. One of the best goals I have seen at the NIC was the second v Bern - Derlago off the boards to Phillips who produced a brilliant pass for "Sacha". I still believe by and large we have the players, but things need to be sorted out fairly quickly. On the plus side I thought Brisbois showed some good touches.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 12:12:59 GMT
It could have been worse, we could have lost and not created any chances! Keep playing this way and the wins will come But will we? We have been saying that for weeks, but we are yet to win by more thank one goal? I am concerned. Yes we will . #simples
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Post by nate24 on Oct 8, 2017 14:06:56 GMT
But will we? We have been saying that for weeks, but we are yet to win by more thank one goal? I am concerned. Yes we will . #simples Will we what??
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2017 15:19:44 GMT
Start winning games, only a fool would think otherwise with this team.
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Post by iginla on Oct 8, 2017 15:53:28 GMT
Start winning games, only a fool would think otherwise with this team. What are we now Pidge,nearly 20 games into the season and we havnt blown anybody out the water yet. And most domestic games are worryingly following a very similar pattern. Next weekend is a very big one. Lose those two and that laser needs refocusing pretty quickly !
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Post by PantherG on Oct 8, 2017 16:03:01 GMT
Start winning games, only a fool would think otherwise with this team. What are we now Pidge,nearly 20 games into the season and we havnt blown anybody out the water yet. And most domestic games are worryingly following a very similar pattern. Next weekend is a very big one. Lose those two and that laser needs refocusing pretty quickly ! 100% spot on.
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Post by wgray on Oct 8, 2017 16:15:35 GMT
Start winning games, only a fool would think otherwise with this team. What are we now Pidge,nearly 20 games into the season and we havnt blown anybody out the water yet. And most domestic games are worryingly following a very similar pattern. Next weekend is a very big one. Lose those two and that laser needs refocusing pretty quickly ! in every one of those games have we been the better team?
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Post by iginla on Oct 8, 2017 16:29:51 GMT
What are we now Pidge,nearly 20 games into the season and we havnt blown anybody out the water yet. And most domestic games are worryingly following a very similar pattern. Next weekend is a very big one. Lose those two and that laser needs refocusing pretty quickly ! in every one of those games have we been the better team? That's the big worry. It's no good being the better team nearly every game if you lose half of them though ! ๐ Delargo not scoring. Clarkey not scoring. Phillips not scoring. Mosey not scoring. I doubt they've got ten goals between them all season have they. They're supposed to be the big guns !! ๐
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