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Post by fishman on Jun 5, 2017 14:19:51 GMT
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Post by panthersdave on Jun 5, 2017 14:26:45 GMT
That's a good move, hopefully security is taken more seriously now.
I have always felt the bag checks were mainly done to stop people taking food and drinks into the arena
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Post by Yotes on Jun 5, 2017 14:36:16 GMT
Can obviously understand it, but could prove tricky for people with young children (changing etc), that's not a big bag they're allowing in.
Was an inevitable change though, sadly just the world we live in at the moment.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Jun 5, 2017 15:30:08 GMT
With over 2 months advanced warning, I'm sure people will still moan and groan when they get to the first game.
Never understood why people take such big bags anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 16:40:27 GMT
Security and general stewarding is and always has been a joke at that arena couple it with fans mostly groan men walking in with huge bags then it's a recipe for disaster. Have all the doors open for all league games . Instead of penny pinching that they can't afford to employ someone on every door so you can process the fans through a lot quicker. For once in 17 years let's have the arena ran professionally if that's possible
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Post by iginla on Jun 5, 2017 19:43:42 GMT
Right move undoubtedly. But it isn't just inside the arena you have to worry about,it's the foyer area. There could easily be 500 plus people queuing in that small space at any one time just before the barriers open !
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Post by John Casey on Jun 5, 2017 21:52:33 GMT
Right move undoubtedly. But it isn't just inside the arena you have to worry about,it's the foyer area. There could easily be 500 plus people queuing in that small space at any one time just before the barriers open ! Yeah, Have to agree with you on that one, it certainly gets packed in the foyer area especially if they are late opening.
If they are expecting 5,000 minimum for a game, then opening the doors at 17:30 is certainly a must. I believe that they only opened the barriers an hour before Face Off for most Sheffield games last season. That certainly can't happen this season.
For the poster who wondered why people bring large bags in, I believe that some fans do a shift before the game however they are unable to go home and dump it off beforehand.
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Post by iginla on Jun 5, 2017 22:04:06 GMT
Perhaps they should open a "big bag dumping cloakroom".
After all,they are pretty handy at selling raffle tickets for everything else ! 🙄
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Post by block9 on Jun 6, 2017 11:54:16 GMT
Are there no lockers at the foyer level as down stairs for skaters?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jun 6, 2017 12:47:47 GMT
Staggered they are allowed to keep lockers in the place at all now if they are concerned with security.
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Post by tootootrain on Jun 6, 2017 16:16:41 GMT
Can obviously understand it, but could prove tricky for people with young children (changing etc), that's not a big bag they're allowing in. Whilst this is pure security theatre (as already mentioned, its the pre-check crowd that is the biggest potential target) they seem to have managed with young children etc regularly attending NHL games for nearly a decade now, after they brought in more stringent rules regarding bags etc.
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Post by pantherdman on Jun 6, 2017 17:13:56 GMT
Can't see an attack on elite league ice hockey as the idiots will be looking for maximum exposure. I bet Isis don't even know a British hockey league exists
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Post by tootootrain on Jun 6, 2017 17:27:47 GMT
Can't see an attack on elite league ice hockey as the idiots will be looking for maximum exposure. I bet Isis don't even know a British hockey league exists They've been attacking increasingly soft targets. Worth noting is the attack in Manchester was against an incredibly soft target, a part of the arena accessible to the general public (the foyer). The issue at the NIC has always been the foyer. Since it was opened its been bemoaned as being too small, with everyone packed in pre-barrier opening. If I were one of these 'Deity Challenged' folks and looking to pull off a similar attack to Manchester I'd be researching similar arenas and carrying out surveillance of its most regular events. Whilst their crimes are terrible and reasons for carrying them out irrational, it would be a mistake to discount the people behind them as not doing their research.
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Post by thebestpanthers on Jun 6, 2017 19:41:35 GMT
Sadly the comments about small venues like the NIC being targets are true, but in the light of recent events in UK and Abroad, anyone walking down the street could be at risk. We could all of course stop at home but that is what they want (disrupt our way of life) - In reality, the World will go on, we should all heed the warnings, listen to advise and report our suspicions, and hope it never happens to us
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Post by iginla on Jun 6, 2017 20:15:50 GMT
Sadly the comments about small venues like the NIC being targets are true, but in the light of recent events in UK and Abroad, anyone walking down the street could be at risk. We could all of course stop at home but that is what they want (disrupt our way of life) - In reality, the World will go on, we should all heed the warnings, listen to advise and report our suspicions, and hope it never happens to us Very true. Being realistic there is very very little anybody can do really. It could be in the arena,the foyer,Bolero square,in the Castle or on the tram. You could put 10,000 extra armed police on the streets and it still wouldn't stop the idiots. Just go to the hockey or anywhere else and be as careful as you can,that's all any of us can do. But let's just hope we don't see Diane Abbot as Home Secretary on Friday.....or Lord help us ! Lol
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Post by tootootrain on Jun 6, 2017 20:40:09 GMT
But let's just hope we don't see Diane Abbot as Home Secretary on Friday.....or Lord help us ! Lol Of course Theresa May's 6 years as Home Secretary and year as Prime Minster has been a rip roaring success with regards to the nation's security. Ps, being Shadow minister for a department doesn't automatically mean they'd be in that position post election. Indeed Chris Grayling, the last Shadow Home Secretary before a change of party in government missed out to a certain Theresa May. Anyway, that's enough of the off-topic stuff.
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Post by pantherman66 on Jun 7, 2017 21:22:08 GMT
Without being too controversial, is it necessary to search everybody's bags, just the people of a certain appearance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 21:38:53 GMT
Without being too controversial, is it necessary to search everybody's bags, just the people of a certain appearance. Yes.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jun 7, 2017 23:23:04 GMT
Without being too controversial, is it necessary to search everybody's bags, just the people of a certain appearance. Yes. Google "Aaron Driver", Does he have the "certain" appearance?
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Post by pantherdman on Jun 8, 2017 5:30:34 GMT
Please, no politics talk on here, this place was a refuge from all the bs.
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Post by Pies on Jun 8, 2017 9:41:15 GMT
I think this thread is done. We're getting way too much into a very controversial area and this is a place to talk hockey.
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