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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 16:43:49 GMT
There's no doubt that Corey is a master of coaching his teams to glory over short formatted tourneys. His record now speaks for itself.
What I still struggle to understand why is he unable to consistently coach and manage his team over 50 odd games...
This Friday we are in Belfast will he adopt the 'cup final ' approach simular to how we performed over there in the play offs last season..
It's the one thing which let's CN down ...
Anyone got a idea how to explain this ?
Ones things for certain he has a job within the organisation for as long as he wants it
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Post by iginla on Jan 16, 2017 19:11:19 GMT
In a word Pidge i would say....."motivation".
Corey doesn't think it's his job to motivate players.
Yes there is an argument for Corey's take on it and with younger hungry players he probably doesn't need to motivate them.
But when you have 30 plus year old players and we have plenty this year,who have been there,done that and got some T shirts,they will struggle to get motivated for a Wednesday night against Coventry or a Sunday night in Edinburgh etc.
Those same players though don't need anybody to motivate them when it comes to semi finals and finals.
We are also a different team since Williams arrived.
They say one player doesn't make a team,but he has been massive for us !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 19:29:00 GMT
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Post by spik on Jan 16, 2017 19:52:02 GMT
The supporters question why we can't do what others do ie) Sheffield.
But then again we do pick up winners medals alright in areas of short term events.
However, it's not being more uniformed with all tournaments that annoy some.
I quess you pay your money and either complain/make comment or walk as some have done.
The club have this policy at the moment and it seems that you have to make your choice as to go or not as this seems to be the only option presently.
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Post by PantherB on Jan 16, 2017 20:27:34 GMT
Personally I'd look behind the scenes to the much talked about 'Strength & Conditioning' aspect.
Corey is a great coach, we've had some poor teams, we've had some great teams and Corey tends to guide them to the upper half of the table (I know, a 10 team league.. nothing significant) pretty consistently but there is always a lack of consistency in performances, which quite often will come when there's a few guys out, or one or two key guys.
We are much worse off without Schultz, who is injured for the 4th time in his Panthers career? I know the injury he originally sustained is one he will never recover 110% from but I don't understand why some of these lower body - non broken bones injuries seem to take so long to recover. Look at the NHL, 82 games a season plus Pre-Season, WCoH, World Championships, yet some players manage to last over 5 years without missing a single game, despite blocking shots, taking hits and wearing their bodies down for 8 or so months per year. Yet guys over here can play a few games, get tired and fatigued, pull a muscle and miss a couple weeks. It isn't good enough.
The most common explanation/excuse tends to be that the guys are running on empty, fatigued, need a rest.. Sure, it's understandable that they need a bit of time to recuperate but when more often than not they play weekends only, and they still get knackered, whilst players of the same age and older in the NHL, AHL, KHL, DEL etc.. can play multiple games a week throughout the season.
I think our backroom guys are excessively lenient on our guys, maybe Corey grows too attached and allows guys extra time to recover, but somewhere.. Whether it's the players not being truthful about how they feel, how they're progressing or medical staff being over pedantic with minor injuries, or Corey being too soft.. Somewhere back there, something isn't right.
Other teams suffer injuries, some more than us, but they manage, yet we more often than not fail to.
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For the record, with the League record firmly at the front of my mind.. even with the Continental Cup win, whilst it's not particularly pleasing, I do think Corey has more than the sufficient capability to win another or two at the very least and I would be happy with him remaining coach for the foreseeable future.
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Post by iginla on Jan 16, 2017 20:49:24 GMT
Depends what you want to see over a season.
Winning cups is ok,but if you don't stay in contention for the league then a lot of games (since like a month ago) become rather meaningless.
Corey always guides us to a top half finish yes,but that's not hard to do in Nottingham,it's a ten team league where it is almost guaranteed who the bottom five are going to be before a puck is even dropped.
IF we were to play in a top five team league of only the big boys,then realistically,finishing our usual 3rd,4th or 5th is really not very good is it !
Trying to get away with less quality than we should have is also an issue.
We had no real quality leader in the forwards for the start of this season,yet had we had Williams or similar from the start we would still be right in the league title race.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 10:21:43 GMT
What do you expect from a ex top 6 wings forward He's very good (in the same way that Jeff Heerema was very good)... But he's no David Ling. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 11:59:39 GMT
What do you expect from a ex top 6 wings forward He's very good (in the same way that Jeff Heerema was very good)... But he's no David Ling. Different types of player entirely. Ling was more of gritty in your face type. Williams is just a productive forward and more speed |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 12:33:40 GMT
He's very good (in the same way that Jeff Heerema was very good)... But he's no David Ling. Different types of player entirely. Ling was more of gritty in your face type. Williams is just a productive forward and more speed They're only different in their secondary roles, primarily they are 'offensive forwards' in which sense one is better than the other. I don't, however, dispute that Williams is a more complete player. |
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