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Post by blackpanther2011 on Dec 4, 2016 21:32:44 GMT
new signings by midnight tonight then?
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Post by Mozzy on Dec 4, 2016 21:32:45 GMT
Well, just where do you start.
After the mauling we gave you last time I fully expected you to come out flying but you were as dead as a Dodo again. When it got to 5 we just coasted through the rest of the game. I think the Steelers crowd sarcastically cheering and applauding your goal more than your own fans says all you really need to know about the performance on the ice.
You don't seem to have any leaders, nobody is jumping up and saying on my shoulders lads, lets fight for this. Your body language is all wrong, it just looks like some players just couldn't care less.
I'm really struggling to remember a Panthers team that was as bad as this one is.
We have our rivalry but I seriously do feel sorry for you guys having to watch that every week, it must be soul destroying.
I said it after the last game and I'll say it again now. Nielson has failed every single season since you won the league to put a competitive team on the ice in the league. He needs to go if you are to start competing again. Hard to believe he was given a new 2 year deal in the summer.
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Post by bridgfordboy on Dec 4, 2016 21:45:29 GMT
GM's days are surely numbered - every other team and fan in the league seems to know this - Steelers web site milking it. Done like kippers.
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Post by iginla on Dec 4, 2016 21:46:44 GMT
The consequence will be that a player or two get replaced, nothing more. Neilson and Moran, the architects of crap, will not be going anywhere. I'd put decent money on Neilson still being coach this time next year. And the fall guys will be two from.....Sertich,Spang,Macmillan,Carter,Lindhagen or Macgrattan.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 4, 2016 21:52:10 GMT
The reality of Malin Hill and the entire shower calling themselves the coaching staff
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Post by dill1015 on Dec 4, 2016 21:54:24 GMT
The consequence will be that a player or two get replaced, nothing more. Neilson and Moran, the architects of crap, will not be going anywhere. I'd put decent money on Neilson still being coach this time next year. And the fall guys will be two from.....Sertich,Spang,Macmillan,Carter,Lindhagen or Macgrattan. Machrattan must be on decent wages. Gas him and throw money at Lepine, at least he might help stop us leaking goals like a sieve. MacMillan can just go. I dont even care about a replacment just get him out the team. Replace Spang with an Echl level d man and use the money saved from him and MacMillan to bring in a playmaker who can actually pass. And can we swap Lindhagen with a wild card like Kelsey Wilson... just to liven things up abit.
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Post by Mark on Dec 4, 2016 21:57:39 GMT
As some have said, the architects of this dismal mess should be the first out the door. Moran and Neilson are a bad joke. I doubt however Black cares enough to do it. Moran makes him money, his number one concenrn and Neilson toes the party line.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 4, 2016 21:58:00 GMT
Steelers web site milking it. Gary looks just like I do watching the Panthers. Creepy.
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Post by Mark on Dec 4, 2016 22:11:47 GMT
Gary Moran, the sort of bloke who is a part of the problem but manages to weasel out of all responsibility whilst blaming someone else.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 4, 2016 22:20:09 GMT
Gary Moran, the sort of bloke who is a part of the problem but manages to weasel out of all responsibility whilst blaming someone else. The upper management ARE the problem as they are the only ones in a position to do anything about it.
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Post by fishman on Dec 4, 2016 22:34:48 GMT
Well, just where do you start. After the mauling we gave you last time I fully expected you to come out flying but you were as dead as a Dodo again. When it got to 5 we just coasted through the rest of the game. I think the Steelers crowd sarcastically cheering and applauding your goal more than your own fans says all you really need to know about the performance on the ice. You don't seem to have any leaders, nobody is jumping up and saying on my shoulders lads, lets fight for this. Your body language is all wrong, it just looks like some players just couldn't care less. I'm really struggling to remember a Panthers team that was as bad as this one is. We have our rivalry but I seriously do feel sorry for you guys having to watch that every week, it must be soul destroying. I said it after the last game and I'll say it again now. Nielson has failed every single season since you won the league to put a competitive team on the ice in the league. He needs to go if you are to start competing again. Hard to believe he was given a new 2 year deal in the summer. He got the 2 years because Panther won CC and the Playoff, ( I wanted Weber the guy Steelers failed to get) Don't need you to come and put the boot in Mozzy, you only sing when your winning!!!!
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Post by nate24 on Dec 4, 2016 22:40:21 GMT
Just drove past the arena as players got off the bus. No one was talking, everyone looked broken. This side is done.
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Post by iginla on Dec 4, 2016 22:40:47 GMT
Well, just where do you start. After the mauling we gave you last time I fully expected you to come out flying but you were as dead as a Dodo again. When it got to 5 we just coasted through the rest of the game. I think the Steelers crowd sarcastically cheering and applauding your goal more than your own fans says all you really need to know about the performance on the ice. You don't seem to have any leaders, nobody is jumping up and saying on my shoulders lads, lets fight for this. Your body language is all wrong, it just looks like some players just couldn't care less. I'm really struggling to remember a Panthers team that was as bad as this one is. We have our rivalry but I seriously do feel sorry for you guys having to watch that every week, it must be soul destroying. I said it after the last game and I'll say it again now. Nielson has failed every single season since you won the league to put a competitive team on the ice in the league. He needs to go if you are to start competing again. Hard to believe he was given a new 2 year deal in the summer. Don't need you to come and put the boot in Mozzy, you only sing when your winning!!!! To be fair.....Mozzy always talks sense,unlike most Steelers. He's spot on with what he says here.
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Post by ted logan on Dec 4, 2016 22:43:45 GMT
Don't need you to come and put the boot in Mozzy, you only sing when your winning!!!! To be fair.....Mozzy always talks sense,unlike most Steelers. He's spot on with what he says here. And he's only had the misfortune of watching us 2-3 times. We suffer that every week. I swear I've got more grey hairs today than I had in August. Might rename them my panthers highlights.
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Post by stattinho on Dec 4, 2016 22:45:06 GMT
If I'm not mistaken thats 25 Steelers have put passed Pacl in 4 games. Looks like they've got his number. Any other season we'd be calling for his head. Gotta feel for him with the players in front of him...if only they were!! You are mistaken. Pacl v Steelers: P4, L4. 26 goals conceded. GAA 6.91. SV% 82.3.
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Post by John Casey on Dec 4, 2016 23:23:25 GMT
GM will not be sacked, if anything they may get some of people to do some of his responsibilities.
I do not blame Lindhagan or any of our Goalies.
While the players are not faultless, we have had injuries to at least 3 of our players at the same time in which they were out for several weeks. To cover this only Kalus was brought in. The only other player to come in was Kudroc and he replaced Kalus. Where was some other temporary cover?
Also we never replaced Oakford.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 4, 2016 23:42:34 GMT
GM will not be sacked, if anything they may get some of people to do some of his responsibilities. I do not blame Lindhagan or any of our Goalies. While the players are not faultless, we have had injuries to at least 3 of our players at the same time in which they were out for several weeks. To cover this only Kalus was brought in. The only other player to come in was Kudroc and he replaced Kalus. Where was some other temporary cover? Also we never replaced Oakford. The reason there are so many injuries is because they are out on the lash every chance they get. Warm up today the Steelers looked sharp and alive and ours looked like they had walked to the arena from Nottingham. Replace oakford with a cardboard cut-out and it would have been an upgrade.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 4, 2016 23:45:22 GMT
Just drove past the arena as players got off the bus. No one was talking, everyone looked broken. This side is done. Probably had a fall out about which bar to hit first.
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Post by Bolts on Dec 4, 2016 23:51:23 GMT
The whole set up is a joke.
Beg cam to come in each week just to do a team talk.
Corey and rick look like cheap suit mannequins!! Show some passion guys, lean over the bench screaming at the ref when he rules out goals! Anything.
Teddy bear toss was a success though.
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Post by shmyrohdear on Dec 4, 2016 23:52:18 GMT
Six heads need to roll.
Neilson Mac B. Moran Sertich Carter Spang
However, that is not happening. There isn't enough time to make these changes and i know the lazy management team don't care enough to gas more than two.
Completely fed up, Neilson has become an absolute joke. Moran is the little weasel counting profit numbers in the back, he should go back to whatever corner of mordor he spawned from.
Neil Black is the biggest problem we have, absolutely no ambition towards this team's success in it's own league. Going for European success is great, allowing this level of slack hockey in front of thousands of paying fans is not.
I cannot remember a Panthers team that i was utterly ashamed of. The constant excuses and seat selling tripe is like them spitting in our faces at this point.
Disgraceful.
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Post by iginla on Dec 5, 2016 0:07:27 GMT
I think we need a caption competition using that photo of Moran at the glass on Steelers website. Somebody post it.
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Post by Mozzy on Dec 5, 2016 1:26:28 GMT
Well, just where do you start. After the mauling we gave you last time I fully expected you to come out flying but you were as dead as a Dodo again. When it got to 5 we just coasted through the rest of the game. I think the Steelers crowd sarcastically cheering and applauding your goal more than your own fans says all you really need to know about the performance on the ice. You don't seem to have any leaders, nobody is jumping up and saying on my shoulders lads, lets fight for this. Your body language is all wrong, it just looks like some players just couldn't care less. I'm really struggling to remember a Panthers team that was as bad as this one is. We have our rivalry but I seriously do feel sorry for you guys having to watch that every week, it must be soul destroying. I said it after the last game and I'll say it again now. Nielson has failed every single season since you won the league to put a competitive team on the ice in the league. He needs to go if you are to start competing again. Hard to believe he was given a new 2 year deal in the summer. He got the 2 years because Panther won CC and the Playoff, ( I wanted Weber the guy Steelers failed to get) Don't need you to come and put the boot in Mozzy, you only sing when your winning!!!! Not putting the boot in at all. Just giving you my viewpoint on what I've seen so far of your team. As for singing when we're winning, we're not yet, Cardiff are the one's doing all the singing at the moment with their 11 point lead.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Dec 5, 2016 3:01:31 GMT
The team culture starts from the top. GM has to be the first to be shot at dawn.
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Post by dill1015 on Dec 5, 2016 10:10:51 GMT
Watching the highlights:
The first goal does take a lucky bounce off a skate. But the puck is just thrown into the crease from the corner Lee just isnt contesting it.
The second goal is a decent powerplay goal. But again a lack of intensity. Lacho this time not puttin preasure on the point man who has all the time in the world.
Third goal is a disgrace. How does Davey Philips end up in 15ft of open space in our defensive zone? Its not like it was on a rush. Just noone picks him up. Everyones puck watching. Lee eventually thinks about cruising across when its far too late. But at every point in the run up to the goal noone gets tight to a man. Noones competing for the puck. Every steelers player has all the time in the world to pick a pass. Then compare to how the puck got turned over, Schultz is on thier blue line with an orange shirt in his face and no passing option.
Forth goal. They happen, if you want to be really picky youcome say we're not clearing the crease well enough. But im not going crazy over this one.
Fifth goal. Like number 3 but maybe not quite as bad. Again in far too much space people puck watching and not picking the man up who just drifts in from the blue. line.
Sixth goal. Awful shift from Lee. Poor turn over and caught on the break. Lee gets caught in no mans land. Doesnt commit to either player. And noone tracks Ratchuck as he just simply skates straight towards the goal.
Overall a horror show from our defense. 3 goals that should never happen and 2 more than a lot more could have been done on. Pacl gets beat by 4 shots that go through him. Just not good enough all round.
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Post by fishman on Dec 5, 2016 10:38:09 GMT
He got the 2 years because Panther won CC and the Playoff, ( I wanted Weber the guy Steelers failed to get) Don't need you to come and put the boot in Mozzy, you only sing when your winning!!!! Not putting the boot in at all. Just giving you my viewpoint on what I've seen so far of your team. As for singing when we're winning, we're not yet, Cardiff are the one's doing all the singing at the moment with their 11 point lead. I was referring to the semi's last season, you make 1 comment on the tread about Ice Sheffield before the game, 8-0 & 2-0 =10-0 very remiss not to send congrats to the Panthers fans
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