Mark
Randall Weber
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Post by Mark on Dec 4, 2016 20:24:46 GMT
Lots for the shower in charge to think about. Neilson's tenure should be over, how far have we slipped since winning the league? If a coaching change isn't forthcoming at the end of the season I see little point in supporting the next campaign. Please get shot of Moran, another millstone around the club's neck, arrogant, stuck in the past, interfering and thoroughly unlikable. Neil Black we are a shambles, as are Braehead, seems your input currently guarantees mediocrity. Maybe you should pay more attention to those providing you with a tidy profit?
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Post by dill1015 on Dec 4, 2016 20:27:31 GMT
Perhaps we're missing the point. Are the raw materials ok and it's the coach we need to change to se what someone different can do with them? Its both for me. The locker room has clearly gone. Which is coreys problem. But im not conviced we have the right tools. The balance is wrong, we dont have the big play makers and we lack the stay at home d men. Which i guess is also Coreys problem. Either way the buck stop with him. Or anyone who is forcing him to make the decissions hes making.
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Post by thebestpanthers on Dec 4, 2016 20:28:38 GMT
The big question is, are there players out there and available that are good enough? They really cannot be worse
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Post by panthersdave on Dec 4, 2016 20:30:01 GMT
The big question is, are there players out there and available that are good enough? They really cannot be worse Two words Robert Liscak
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Post by thebestpanthers on Dec 4, 2016 20:33:37 GMT
Perhaps we're missing the point. Are the raw materials ok and it's the coach we need to change to se what someone different can do with them? You can see the frustration on the players when they come off the ice to tell that there is something fundamentally wrong - the moral is shot to ribbons and until that changes things will only get worse - what is wrong with Clarkie and Waugh and when can we expect them back???
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Ghost
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Post by Ghost on Dec 4, 2016 20:35:44 GMT
They really cannot be worse Two words Robert Liscak I raise you. Martin Tuma.
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Yotes
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Post by Yotes on Dec 4, 2016 20:39:03 GMT
It's true that if there are worse out there, Neilson will find them.
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Post by wgray on Dec 4, 2016 20:47:49 GMT
Why did that feel like a repeat of our last visit there? How can you take the beating that we did, playing that same 1-4 system for the majority of the game and expect it to pan out any differently.
Tonight we tried to play the system, stood of them asking them to break as down and, like last time, every single one of their players skated through us like a knife through butter.
We arent quick enough to carry it out successfully. Pacl isn't going to keep a clean sheet and we aren't going to score multiple goals playing that system so what is Corey thinking? I am seriously questioning his ability and decision making as a coach and watching the players they don't seem to know what to do when on the offence. Why have gone in the opposite direction in terms of the style of play we had last season, for the worse, so where do we go from here?
On another note Darnell was his usual inconsistent, arrogant self, never known a person like him.
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Post by leftshot27 on Dec 4, 2016 20:51:15 GMT
What a mess ! Losing Myers , Mosey and Janssen late ish in the summer ripped the heart out of this years team. Add to it poor recruitment from a coach who seems to have gone stale and continued dreadful 'leadership' from our GM and it feels like the perfect storm. I strongly suspect conditioning is an issue with this years team, Brad Moran is a class act but it may well be a year too far for him. Matt Carter has good hands but I don't think he has either the toughness or more skating ability for this league. . You could go on, time for change but little point if it doesn't start at the top !
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Post by dill1015 on Dec 4, 2016 20:52:02 GMT
I raise you. Martin Tuma. Ok i'll play. Corey LeClair
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Post by dill1015 on Dec 4, 2016 20:54:23 GMT
I raise you. Martin Tuma. Ok i'll play. Corey LeClair Scratch that. I think i have a winner. Davis Parley
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Post by blackpanther2011 on Dec 4, 2016 20:55:15 GMT
My tether has finally been cut with this disgusting panthers team. We can't skate, we can't shoot and we certainly can't win and will never win the league with the people in charge nor on the ice.
with now 17/18 games played the players who should be exempt from the cut line are the goalies;
Mika: been solid throughout once again, one injury and a family bereavement is understandable. Pacl: a decent back up but he has had simply no D-Men to protect him against the likes of Roy Green: Just stands on the bench making notes on the team note board feel quite sorry for him not getting the ice time
D Men
Dimmen: possibly our best D-man, busts a gut, plays hard and can score down low and up high. Kudroc: came into the side and hasn't played bad, got a so called cannon of a shot but hasn't been given the service to test it. Waugh: with Dimmen, solid on D when fully fit.
forwards;
Mcgrattan: brought in and has done a pretty good job protecting our guys and played some real good hockey in the Continental cup. Nikiforuk: simply our best foward this season, busts a gut gets into the dirty corners and works for his goals. Lawrence: Been past from pillar to post been to coventry, sheffield and back to panthers, had a super 5 goal weekend and then injured for more than a month Schultz: Bust a gut to get back eariler than expected takes hard work and commitment and slowly getting match fit Farms: best panthers brit so far this season. Clarke: really needs the service, and I think that is pretty much it. the rest can pretty much go.
I know injuries can be part of the game sometimes but the way Panthers have kept them secret is no way to run a hockey team. Do the NHL teams do it? HELL NO!
Changes by the bucket load NOW or we'll finish bottom at this rate and miss out on the play-offs and with this team that could be made reality
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Post by coogamooga on Dec 4, 2016 20:59:59 GMT
If I'm not mistaken thats 25 Steelers have put passed Pacl in 4 games. Looks like they've got his number. Any other season we'd be calling for his head. Gotta feel for him with the players in front of him...if only they were!!
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iginla
Chick Zamick
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Post by iginla on Dec 4, 2016 21:03:33 GMT
Why did that feel like a repeat of our last visit there? How can you take the beating that we did, playing that same 1-4 system for the majority of the game and expect it to pan out any differently. Tonight we tried to play the system, stood of them asking them to break as down and, like last time, every single one of their players skated through us like a knife through butter. We arent quick enough to carry it out successfully. Pacl isn't going to keep a clean sheet and we aren't going to score multiple goals playing that system so what is Corey thinking? I am seriously questioning his ability and decision making as a coach and watching the players they don't seem to know what to do when on the offence. Why have gone in the opposite direction in terms of the style of play we had last season, for the worse, so where do we go from here? On another note Darnell was his usual inconsistent, arrogant self, never known a person like him. I've known one mate.....Neilson !
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Post by DMS on Dec 4, 2016 21:03:36 GMT
I raise you. Martin Tuma. Ok i'll play. Corey LeClair juri golicic
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 4, 2016 21:03:39 GMT
At this point only people who should go is Neilson with a heavy foot up his backside and the white haired BS merchant ensconced at Malin Hill. Sacking players is like the band playing after the iceburg hit at this point. You could bring in the Boston Bruins squad and CN would have us still finish 8th in the league.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 4, 2016 21:05:42 GMT
Betteridge would not be a top performer or high earner and wouldn't be expected to score 20+ goals a season, but is playing a damn sight better than most. He spent most of the latter part of last season logging no ice time at all even when we were winning (oh the memories)but then CN touts him as the new myers at the beginning of the season!! Betteridge is an EPL level forward at best. Loads of effort but zero impact in this league.
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iginla
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Post by iginla on Dec 4, 2016 21:15:01 GMT
Ok i'll play. Corey LeClair Scratch that. I think i have a winner. Davis Parley Jan Krulis,Mikhail Nimorovsky,Evan Lindsay,Kyle Hardy.........God we've signed some donkeys !
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Yotes
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Post by Yotes on Dec 4, 2016 21:21:50 GMT
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Dec 4, 2016 21:21:54 GMT
I think it's Corey more than the players, granted they've not performed to expectations but how can they when their skills aren't being utilised, sticking mcgrattan on a line with your top scorer isn't right he's never going to provide Lawrence the right service, Watching the players going back to the bench it's clear they're as frustrated as most of us, Carter punched the bench and a few other hot things in the bench and pacl must feel low the way he's been hung out, green should have been on after the 4th or 5th , game was gone after the third
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Dec 4, 2016 21:24:20 GMT
By the sounds of that GM isn't happy
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Post by dexter on Dec 4, 2016 21:28:22 GMT
Same old same old. What's actually going to be done?
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iginla
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Post by iginla on Dec 4, 2016 21:28:49 GMT
By the sounds of that GM isn't happy The first consequence being.....that Neilson loses his job ! He is devoid of new ideas and that dressing room is so obviously not happy with either him or his tactics.
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Post by dill1015 on Dec 4, 2016 21:30:21 GMT
I hate to break this to you Corey, but your about 6 weeks late on that front. Just sayin'
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Yotes
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Post by Yotes on Dec 4, 2016 21:31:04 GMT
The consequence will be that a player or two get replaced, nothing more. Neilson and Moran, the architects of crap, will not be going anywhere.
I'd put decent money on Neilson still being coach this time next year.
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