mmmbop
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Post by mmmbop on Oct 29, 2016 23:20:04 GMT
I quite liked the inflatable, although when they turned the dry ice on it did look, from my angle, a bit like Paws having a dump on a cold day. Plus the Keystone Cops effort at putting it away, a bit of Benny Hill music next time Ken. Sure I saw some dude kick it RSPCA |
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iginla
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Post by iginla on Oct 29, 2016 23:28:33 GMT
Not just one game. We were woeful against Belfast and nothing has changed. I agree with the points already made but would add that, Clarke aside our Brit pack is poor and is any effort being made to replace Oakford? Nice bear though. Exactly Mark. When you think back,that we have lost Weaver,Myers and Levers from the grand slam team,plus Clarkey is 35 now,our Brit pack is seriously depleted when you look at what those three have been replaced with in Farmer and Betteridge ! |
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Post by shaun30 on Oct 29, 2016 23:29:23 GMT
The best team on the night definitely won it. Really impressed by the way the caps team played.
It's a shame they cannot keep it up all season as they would take a few points from other teams. Thought there second goal was quality, yeah there keeper played well but poor shooting choices would have helped him!
Think Steve lee had a shocker and the way he allowed there player get round him for the 4th was poor and a real lack of effort
Why we left it so long for a time out surprises me, too little too late.
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Mark
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Post by Mark on Oct 29, 2016 23:50:47 GMT
Not just one game. We were woeful against Belfast and nothing has changed. I agree with the points already made but would add that, Clarke aside our Brit pack is poor and is any effort being made to replace Oakford? Nice bear though. Exactly Mark. When you think back,that we have lost Weaver,Myers and Levers from the grand slam team,plus Clarkey is 35 now,our Brit pack is seriously depleted when you look at what those three have been replaced with in Farmer and Betteridge ! To be fair I think Farmer has been one of our better players so far this season but the rest are woeful. Again Clarke aside. This issue becomes more obvious when our imports are lacking. Looking back though Iginla, it makes you want to weep. |
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 30, 2016 3:02:27 GMT
Yeah. Lawerence and Schultz. Maybe Carter on borrowed time. Cant get rid of Carter or brown for that matter..... as there will be no one to help Lawrence organize his life for him..... As I and others said during the summer this team is short on offence. Schultz and Lawrence being injured only compunds the issue.... brown? |
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 30, 2016 3:06:47 GMT
Said it last week and Ill say it again Carter and Brown are passengers!!! All I got was 'to early to gas players' Please let me know when the time is right to gas these jokers i don't get what's wrong with brown. An upgrade and Macmillan and now we gas him? |
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 30, 2016 3:09:31 GMT
Brown isn't a passenger IMO, not contributed too much offensively but is one player who I haven't seen slack. Carter however needs to be gone, have said for a couple weeks now that he can't finish any chances even when put on a plate for him, looks slow and soft. So Brown or MacMillan?? To me one or the other and it needs sorting Carter?  I hate driving but ill offer to take him to the airport brown for a million years. |
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Post by Ghost on Oct 30, 2016 6:39:56 GMT
Disagree on brown, he is high energy and really puts the work in and does what he is supposed to do.He isn't going to bang in a ton of goals it's not his job. I would keep brown. Carter I can't really defend he has done little to help himself. He has talent his record is good but he isn't showing it. God knows why. Is it our system? Is he struggling to settle? is he not clicking with our guys? Is he not being used correctly? I have no clue but he needs to get it sorted and quick. I think tonight we didn't deserve the win but we were stupidly unlucky and faced a goalie on a good day. No excuses though, we were mostly poor but with a bit of luck it could have been tighter. Oh and can we. Please stop hitting tame shots directly at the goalie. If your going to aim there at least power the thing and force a rebound. The Nottingham Panthers.. the most accurate team in the world at shooting straight at the logo on the goalies jersey (and the post). |
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 30, 2016 8:40:24 GMT
Exactly Mark. When you think back,that we have lost Weaver,Myers and Levers from the grand slam team,plus Clarkey is 35 now,our Brit pack is seriously depleted when you look at what those three have been replaced with in Farmer and Betteridge ! To be fair I think Farmer has been one of our better players so far this season but the rest are woeful. Again Clarke aside. This issue becomes more obvious when our imports are lacking. Looking back though Iginla, it makes you want to weep. Farmer is playing very well at the minute. Certainly not a player to be dismissing and putting in a group with Lacho and Ollie. Something else to consider though. Back then we played 3 line hockey. Now we attempt to play 4. Genuine question. How many more imports are we allowed now to then. Is it 2? It's not as simple as just saying the Brit pack isn't as good because in theory at least 2 have been replaced by imports. A better question may be how does our Brit pack stack up against other teams in the league now. And how did it stack up then? That may be where you see we are lacking. I'm not saying this team matches up to that one as a whole, but things have changed significantly since then. |
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Post by thebestpanthers on Oct 30, 2016 8:54:43 GMT
OK - nothing to see here folks, all go home - league title over for another season - still there is always next year
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iginla
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Post by iginla on Oct 30, 2016 9:21:22 GMT
OK - nothing to see here folks, all go home - league title over for another season - still there is always next year Spot on ! |
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Post by bobness on Oct 30, 2016 9:28:25 GMT
We'd be helped if we played the same lines occasionally. I gave up trying to guess the lines tonight. Just don't get CN on this at all. I agreed, I'm getting more and more frustrated with the whole "what combinations haven't we played yet?" coaching. No chance for any kind of chemistry to develop. Panthers need some kind of a spark, but I don't see where it's coming from. Priceless quote last night on the delayed penalty in the first period by the bloke behind me "Crikey, we don't usually pull the goalie this early..." |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 9:32:28 GMT
I gave up trying to guess the lines tonight. Just don't get CN on this at all. I agreed, I'm getting more and more frustrated with the whole "what combinations haven't we played yet?" coaching. No chance for any kind of chemistry to develop. Panthers need some kind of a spark, but I don't see where it's coming from. Priceless quote last night on the delayed penalty in the first period by the bloke behind me "Crikey, we don't usually pull the goalie this early..." And that's the sort of fan who attends these days |
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 30, 2016 9:35:16 GMT
I agreed, I'm getting more and more frustrated with the whole "what combinations haven't we played yet?" coaching. No chance for any kind of chemistry to develop. Panthers need some kind of a spark, but I don't see where it's coming from. Priceless quote last night on the delayed penalty in the first period by the bloke behind me "Crikey, we don't usually pull the goalie this early..." And that's the sort of fan who attends these days TBF we did actually pull him when it was 4 on 4 with about 8/9mins left. There was no delayed call either. Earlier than i've ever seen it at when strength. |
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Post by Shorty on Oct 30, 2016 9:43:27 GMT
I thought the time out at the end was quite clever by Neilson, although not quite right.
It was obvious he was hoping that when the time out had finished, the clocks would have gone back and we would have another hour to play.
Having said that, the way we were playing, it would not have made much difference.
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Post by bobness on Oct 30, 2016 10:12:50 GMT
And that's the sort of fan who attends these days TBF we did actually pull him when it was 4 on 4 with about 8/9mins left. There was no delayed call either. Earlier than i've ever seen it at when strength. Indeed. I went straight to look at the ref and was astonished to see him with both hands down. Desperation play. An ENG in the 52nd minute? Has anyone ever seen that? You nearly did last night. Too much shooting at the badge, Fullerton didn't make many "saves", but he could only save what we gave him, which wasn't very much. |
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 30, 2016 10:17:28 GMT
TBF we did actually pull him when it was 4 on 4 with about 8/9mins left. There was no delayed call either. Earlier than i've ever seen it at when strength. Indeed. I went straight to look at the ref and was astonished to see him with both hands down. Desperation play. An ENG in the 52nd minute? Has anyone ever seen that? You nearly did last night. Too much shooting at the badge, Fullerton didn't make many "saves", but he could only save what we gave him, which wasn't very much. You mean the shots where the crowd cheer as if we did something great. Where as actually it's a terrible waste of a good chance. Or when people aplaud Mika for a great save when it hits him in the chest. Hey i'm all for a standing O when you see a great save. Do it regularly. This stuff is very much a sign of todays crowd. |
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Post by PantherB on Oct 30, 2016 13:58:22 GMT
I don't think we played that bad personally, dominated the game for large proportions but like against Belfast, we had the chances but just couldn't hit the net. Caps break out very well and quickly, resulting in 3 of their 4 goals. That should not be happening, maybe all of these offense defencemen need to tone it down a little but and be a bit more conservative. Caps are vastly improved on recent years, it was never going to be an easy game but they just took their chances really well and threw us down a well. We did have some bursts of quality play, multiple chances and lots of pressure which was encouraging but the shots just aren't being taken. We've got McGrattan screening Fullerton, nobody touched him or tried to move him.. We take a few shots, McGrattan will either tip/deflect them, get hit by the shot or the shot will go past him and past the screened Fullerton, did we take any of those shots? No. We spend far too much time passing around, waiting for Caps to make the mistake but they're no ammature's, they defended well and kept it tight and fair play to them for that but we giften them an easy ride at the back, kept passing it around the boards, behind the net, to the blue line, passing passing passing but no shot. Lee was one of the most annoying for it, he's got a bullet of a shot but does he utilise it? No, he passes!
We need to lose the constant passing and waiting thing, whether it's a Corey tactic or the players just not wanting to take a shot.. Who knows but it's frustrating beyond belief.
I don't see the problem with Brown personally, he's a very solid grinder, has no fear and does his part for the team. The loudest part of the game last night was a nice, big hit from.. You guessed it! Jeff Brown. He's got a skilful side to him, nice hands and a decent shot but when his role is to battle along the boards and throw the body, you can't expect him to light the lamp each game. As for Carter, i understand the disappointment but he was one of the better players at parts last night. Made a few comical mistakes but who didn't? On the PP, he was very good, quick tape to tape passes and kept himself positioned at the back door, he got 3 or 4 chances at the back door too but each shot hitting the back of Fullerton's catcher, i'd put that down to Fullerton being a left catcher personally, literally just got to stick his arm out a little bit and he'll catch it.
We're missing Lawrence and Schultz majorly. Both inspire the rest of the team and both are game changers. It's difficult for any team to hold momentum and good spirit when two of the most influential players are sidelined for weeks.
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Post by iginla on Oct 30, 2016 15:25:56 GMT
I don't think we played that bad personally, dominated the game for large proportions but like against Belfast, we had the chances but just couldn't hit the net. Caps break out very well and quickly, resulting in 3 of their 4 goals. That should not be happening, maybe all of these offense defencemen need to tone it down a little but and be a bit more conservative. Caps are vastly improved on recent years, it was never going to be an easy game but they just took their chances really well and threw us down a well. We did have some bursts of quality play, multiple chances and lots of pressure which was encouraging but the shots just aren't being taken. We've got McGrattan screening Fullerton, nobody touched him or tried to move him.. We take a few shots, McGrattan will either tip/deflect them, get hit by the shot or the shot will go past him and past the screened Fullerton, did we take any of those shots? No. We spend far too much time passing around, waiting for Caps to make the mistake but they're no ammature's, they defended well and kept it tight and fair play to them for that but we giften them an easy ride at the back, kept passing it around the boards, behind the net, to the blue line, passing passing passing but no shot. Lee was one of the most annoying for it, he's got a bullet of a shot but does he utilise it? No, he passes! We need to lose the constant passing and waiting thing, whether it's a Corey tactic or the players just not wanting to take a shot.. Who knows but it's frustrating beyond belief. I don't see the problem with Brown personally, he's a very solid grinder, has no fear and does his part for the team. The loudest part of the game last night was a nice, big hit from.. You guessed it! Jeff Brown. He's got a skilful side to him, nice hands and a decent shot but when his role is to battle along the boards and throw the body, you can't expect him to light the lamp each game. As for Carter, i understand the disappointment but he was one of the better players at parts last night. Made a few comical mistakes but who didn't? On the PP, he was very good, quick tape to tape passes and kept himself positioned at the back door, he got 3 or 4 chances at the back door too but each shot hitting the back of Fullerton's catcher, i'd put that down to Fullerton being a left catcher personally, literally just got to stick his arm out a little bit and he'll catch it. We're missing Lawrence and Schultz majorly. Both inspire the rest of the team and both are game changers. It's difficult for any team to hold momentum and good spirit when two of the most influential players are sidelined for weeks. Agree with most of that. And I don't see a problem with Brown or Macmillan either,they are there to do a job and they do it ok. One of Brown,Macmillan,Mcgratten and Betteridge should play on each line as the hitter/grinder. Then you want a passer and a scorer on each line with them. Our problem is we haven't got the passer or the scorers ! Look at the grand slam team killer top line grinder/passer/scorer....Benedict/Ling/Graham. That's what a line should consist of ! |
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Post by shmyrohdear on Oct 30, 2016 15:57:47 GMT
If you think the dynamic of the league is the same as always then i suggest you watch golf and avoid the surprises that await. All teams are strong this year and they will take points off of us and everyone else.
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Post by endisforever91 on Oct 30, 2016 16:57:37 GMT
If you think the dynamic of the league is the same as always then i suggest you watch golf and avoid the surprises that await. All teams are strong this year and they will take points off of us and everyone else. Have to agree with this. |
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Post by iginla on Oct 30, 2016 17:29:35 GMT
If you think the dynamic of the league is the same as always then i suggest you watch golf and avoid the surprises that await. All teams are strong this year and they will take points off of us and everyone else. Have to agree with this. In their own rinks maybe. But they shouldn't be stuffing four goals past us in our own rink and skating away with the points,whilst we seemingly have no idea even how to create a good chance. Yes we were missing an import....they were missing TWO and we had two more men than they did. You don't win league titles doing what we did last night ! |
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Post by jdizpt8 on Nov 1, 2016 8:08:21 GMT
Carter and Mac can go for me, neither have impressed this year, Brown has been solid so far. We need Lawrence and Schultz back to give us that edge and get the lines back to being productive again. Mosey rumoured to be on his way back so maybe that's the "speedy solution" that's been suggested. Go and get Lepine back as well, teams are breaking the blue line far to easy they need to know if they chip it in they're going to get hit.
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Post by shmyrohdear on Nov 1, 2016 16:44:30 GMT
In their own rinks maybe. But they shouldn't be stuffing four goals past us in our own rink and skating away with the points,whilst we seemingly have no idea even how to create a good chance. Yes we were missing an import....they were missing TWO and we had two more men than they did. You don't win league titles doing what we did last night ! We won the league after dropping points to the bottom teams in the league. Some did come into the NIC and put goals past us. It happens, welcome to competitive hockey. Losses at home happen, disappointing yes but it happens to everyone at some stage of the season. If we fail to bounce back then changes need to be made. If we bounce back then it's not to be overly looked upon. It's November and there's a lot of hockey left to be played. |
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Post by texpef on Nov 1, 2016 23:23:17 GMT
Yes we did but we also had fixed lines, forwards who could score and regularly replaced injured players to the extent we had a quality player DAB as a "spare" import, i dont see any of those things this season...
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