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Post by ted logan on Oct 29, 2016 22:11:19 GMT
Carter will go down for me as one of the worst Panthers forwards... Certainly there's been no import with so little to his game in the past 10 years. MacDonald? That's done it TFS! If were mentioning Carter in the same breath as Macdonald then he really is exceedingly crap!
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Post by mmmbop on Oct 29, 2016 22:13:32 GMT
Said it last week and Ill say it again Carter and Brown are passengers!!! All I got was 'to early to gas players' Please let me know when the time is right to gas these jokers Brown isn't a passenger IMO, not contributed too much offensively but is one player who I haven't seen slack. Carter however needs to be gone, have said for a couple weeks now that he can't finish any chances even when put on a plate for him, looks slow and soft. So Brown or MacMillan?? To me one or the other and it needs sorting Carter? I hate driving but ill offer to take him to the airport
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Oct 29, 2016 22:14:48 GMT
Carter will go down for me as one of the worst Panthers forwards... Certainly there's been no import with so little to his game in the past 10 years. MacDonald? I did think about him but I remember he got a hat-trick in one game (and 17 assists in 34 games)... Cannot see Carter getting anywhere near that!
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 29, 2016 22:25:05 GMT
I did think about him but I remember he got a hat-trick in one game (and 17 assists in 34 games)... Cannot see Carter getting anywhere near that! The league was desperately poor quality compared to what it is now. Teams like the Caps don't get beaten week in week out 10-0 anymore (before Christmas anyway)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 22:30:39 GMT
I guess most of this forum must be in their element right now... don't forget to shift your clocks back later ...
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Post by deke on Oct 29, 2016 22:30:57 GMT
Disagree on brown, he is high energy and really puts the work in and does what he is supposed to do.He isn't going to bang in a ton of goals it's not his job. I would keep brown. Carter I can't really defend he has done little to help himself. He has talent his record is good but he isn't showing it. God knows why. Is it our system? Is he struggling to settle? is he not clicking with our guys? Is he not being used correctly? I have no clue but he needs to get it sorted and quick. I think tonight we didn't deserve the win but we were stupidly unlucky and faced a goalie on a good day. No excuses though, we were mostly poor but with a bit of luck it could have been tighter. Oh and can we. Please stop hitting tame shots directly at the goalie. If your going to aim there at least power the thing and force a rebound.
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 29, 2016 22:32:15 GMT
MacMillan can go for me. Never got the hype. Really don't see the grity corner working Benny comparison. He is a good 2 way player. There is a place on the team for a player of that mould. But Brown is it hands down. He puts 100% effort in every shift and has actually shown some great stick handling at times. MacMillan coasts most of the time and occasionally puts some effort in. When he does he looks great, but no way near often enough. No idea if it is him but my money is on him drinking when shouldn't be.
Carter and MacMillan can go. Really missing Lawerence and Schultz. I'd consider bringing in a Lepine type Dman and moving Linghagen forward. Strange when we need goals but I think somethings off at the back. Strangely I like all the Dmen we currently have though. Then bring in a sniper too. You could even leave Linghagen at the back and make Steve Lee 7th Dman. Shorten the forward lines to 3 quality ones. May as well with what Ollie and Lacho are bringing anyway.
The lines need addressing too. Nikiforuk has looked great at times. Especially when paired with Schultz. Played with McGratton and McMillan tonight so going to struggle to produce.
Here's a positive for you. The year we win the league we lost to Caps at home too.
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Post by wgray on Oct 29, 2016 22:33:34 GMT
Said it last week and Ill say it again Carter and Brown are passengers!!! All I got was 'to early to gas players' Please let me know when the time is right to gas these jokers How is Brown a passenger? He does what he's been brought in to do, play hard, get to the dirty areas, play the body and create chances, he was one of the players that I thought did well tonight. What are you expecting from him?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 29, 2016 22:35:24 GMT
I guess most of this forum must be in their element right now... don't forget to shift your clocks back later ... I think we "nearly" have a very very good team actually. All teams will get beaten like we have tonight and the Caps have done it several times already this year.
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Post by ted logan on Oct 29, 2016 22:35:30 GMT
Chris Capraro was gassed after 22 games a few seasons ago. He had scored 9+12 so pretty much a ppg.
After 13 games, Carter had 4+2. I'm pretty sure Dimmen and even Waugh are matching him points wise. Just not good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 22:38:07 GMT
I guess most of this forum must be in their element right now... don't forget to shift your clocks back later ... I think we "nearly" have a very very good team actually. All teams will get beaten like we have tonight and the Caps have done it several times already this year. We were beaten by a better team tonight that simple I'm afraid I know must panthers fans have this pre conception that the panthers have this devine right to win every day . Panthers have actually played worse in games and won
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Post by ted logan on Oct 29, 2016 22:38:29 GMT
I guess most of this forum must be in their element right now. Yes. I love watching my team lose. Great contribution to the points being discussed on the thread.
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Post by mmmbop on Oct 29, 2016 22:39:17 GMT
Said it last week and Ill say it again Carter and Brown are passengers!!! All I got was 'to early to gas players' Please let me know when the time is right to gas these jokers How is Brown a passenger? He does what he's been brought in to do, play hard, get to the dirty areas, play the body and create chances, he was one of the players that I thought did well tonight. What are you expecting from him? Maybe its two players to alike in Brown and MacMillan For me one or the other
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 29, 2016 22:39:28 GMT
I guess most of this forum must be in their element right now... don't forget to shift your clocks back later ... I think we "nearly" have a very very good team actually. All teams will get beaten like we have tonight and the Caps have done it several times already this year. Thats the worst part. I like most of this team and it does show charector quite often. Just a tweak or two away from great. With a fit Schultz and Lawerence and Carter turning it around or being replaced we wont be too far off on goals too.
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Post by Higgy on Oct 29, 2016 22:40:37 GMT
Here's a positive for you. The year we win the league we lost to Caps at home too. That's exactly what I said to my wife earlier,2-1 I think it was then we went on a ridiculous run to catapult us to the top the table....one can dream
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Post by Yotes on Oct 29, 2016 22:49:53 GMT
Fair play to Edinburgh, decent going forward, defended hard and got a good effort from Fullerton - although plenty of shots down the logo as usual.
We'd be helped if we played the same lines occasionally.
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Post by wgray on Oct 29, 2016 22:50:32 GMT
I think people are over reacting slightly saying this team isn't good enough, we are missing our top two point scorers, ultimately making the forward lines unbalanced. Schultz, Niki, McGrattan was going well, as was Farmer, Larry, Clarke. There you have two lines that are guaranteed to get you goals.
I am agreed on Carter though that he needs to turn up soon or we will have to look elsewhere, if we do get rid I think we would be better off using Lindhagen as a forward and getting another dman, then we play Lindhagen with Moran and Brown as 3rd line leaving Lacho, Mac and Ollie as the 4th line. That 3rd line would get goals and the 4th is solid defensively.
Let's not lose our minds, there's plenty to be positive about, one poor game doesn't define a team
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Post by ted logan on Oct 29, 2016 22:57:33 GMT
We'd be helped if we played the same lines occasionally. I gave up trying to guess the lines tonight. Just don't get CN on this at all.
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Post by iginla on Oct 29, 2016 22:58:18 GMT
Here's a positive for you. The year we win the league we lost to Caps at home too. That's exactly what I said to my wife earlier,2-1 I think it was then we went on a ridiculous run to catapult us to the top the table....one can dream We did indeed lose to the Caps at home in the grand slam year. The difference between the two respective Panthers teams is big though. One team was built perfectly,this years team isn't. The grand slam team had skill,heart,grit,toughness,deadly snipers,quality passers,solid D,brilliant goaltending,a great captain and an excellent Brit pack. How many of those things does this years team have......id say five at most !
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 29, 2016 23:08:51 GMT
That's exactly what I said to my wife earlier,2-1 I think it was then we went on a ridiculous run to catapult us to the top the table....one can dream We did indeed lose to the Caps at home in the grand slam year. The difference between the two respective Panthers teams is big though. One team was built perfectly,this years team isn't. The grand slam team had skill,heart,grit,toughness,deadly snipers,quality passers,solid D,brilliant goaltending,a great captain and an excellent Brit pack. How many of those things does this years team have......id say five at most ! It's not close to that team as it stands. However, how much grief was that team getting at this point in the season? And how many changes did we have to make to get it to work? Did those changes come after the 2 1 loss to Caps? Lepine, Wilson, did Beau come back as spare that season too. The main difference in changes needed is that we don't need a Wilson type. This is where the difference can be made. I've said earlier I think we need changes. The balance is just wrong.
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Post by Mark on Oct 29, 2016 23:12:07 GMT
Not just one game. We were woeful against Belfast and nothing has changed. I agree with the points already made but would add that, Clarke aside our Brit pack is poor and is any effort being made to replace Oakford? Nice bear though.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 29, 2016 23:14:53 GMT
I quite liked the inflatable, although when they turned the dry ice on it did look, from my angle, a bit like Paws having a dump on a cold day.
Plus the Keystone Cops effort at putting it away, a bit of Benny Hill music next time Ken.
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Post by panthersnation on Oct 29, 2016 23:15:48 GMT
Credit to the caps thought they played very well. We weren't great but I've seen us play a lot worse and get results. Caps finished their chances well and shut down the neutral zone and we're very good in their zone. Big point for me we ain't winnings enough draws. We technically have 2 centres in larry & Moran. Although doing a alright job l Nikiforuk has play wing most of his career, after player years on the wing Lacho should be no where near the face offs truly shocking coaching. Matt carter worse import forward since Chris capraro. For me carter goes kalus stays then another import forward goes & a top centre comes in.
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Post by ted logan on Oct 29, 2016 23:17:47 GMT
That's exactly what I said to my wife earlier,2-1 I think it was then we went on a ridiculous run to catapult us to the top the table....one can dream We did indeed lose to the Caps at home in the grand slam year. The difference between the two respective Panthers teams is big though. One team was built perfectly,this years team isn't. The grand slam team had skill,heart,grit,toughness,deadly snipers,quality passers,solid D,brilliant goaltending,a great captain and an excellent Brit pack. How many of those things does this years team have......id say five at most ! The Brit pack is a very valid point. The Grand Slam team had probably the best Brit pack this league has seen. We had Weaver who was quality. Steve Lee was a solid, no nonsense dman. Clarke was at his peak, as was Myers. Lachowicz looked a star in the making, even DS called him the boy wonder. We're a fair bit off that level this season sadly.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 29, 2016 23:17:56 GMT
Not just one game. We were woeful against Belfast and nothing has changed. I agree with the points already made but would add that, Clarke aside our Brit pack is poor and is any effort being made to replace Oakford? Nice bear though. Our Brit pack is very thin now compared to how it was but I don't believe we have missed Oakford for a single shift since he left.
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