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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 9:33:13 GMT
It seems certain individuals wanted us to fail in a game just so they can bring up the "not good enough preparation etc" and should have travelled up earlier. 4 points in a 3 game Scotland road trip is good enough at this stage of the season. The flyers will take points of the title challengers at home that's a certainty.
Wiikman has conceded 2 goals all weekend. Excellent form so far.
It will be good to get back on home ice next weekend .
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Post by pingchowchi on Sept 12, 2016 9:42:23 GMT
It seems certain individuals wanted us to fail in a game just so they can bring up the "not good enough preparation etc" and should have travelled up earlier. Yeah, I'm not sure that travelling up a Thursday would have had that much baring for the game on Sunday as well. The game on Saturday will be big test for us, and with the Devils taking the Clan apart I think it is going to be a real tough game.
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Post by iginla on Sept 12, 2016 10:20:39 GMT
It seems certain individuals wanted us to fail in a game just so they can bring up the "not good enough preparation etc" and should have travelled up earlier. 4 points in a 3 game Scotland road trip is good enough at this stage of the season. The flyers will take points of the title challengers at home that's a certainty. Wiikman has conceded 2 goals all weekend. Excellent form so far. It will be good to get back on home ice next weekend . I'm not blaming the team for fatigue......I'm blaming the Panthers GM (it was his decision as was going Friday) for arranging a Scottish 3 in 3 and especially so early in the season. It was a stupid decision,especially so with a goalie who needs protecting from overplaying/injury ! All to save a few quid on an extra nights hotel or travel....madness !!
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Post by Mozzy on Sept 12, 2016 10:51:48 GMT
It seems certain individuals wanted us to fail in a game just so they can bring up the "not good enough preparation etc" and should have travelled up earlier. 4 points in a 3 game Scotland road trip is good enough at this stage of the season. The flyers will take points of the title challengers at home that's a certainty. Wiikman has conceded 2 goals all weekend. Excellent form so far. It will be good to get back on home ice next weekend . I'm not blaming the team for fatigue......I'm blaming the Panthers GM (it was his decision as was going Friday) for arranging a Scottish 3 in 3 and especially so early in the season. It was a stupid decision,especially so with a goalie who needs protecting from overplaying/injury ! All to save a few quid on an extra nights hotel or travel....madness !! Isn't a 3 in 3 better earlier in the season, when players are less fatigued than they would be in Jan\Feb? Ideally there wouldn't be any 3 in 3 but that isn't the way the league works over here. It's been a decent start for you guys. 4 from 6 in 3 nights away from home is a good effort whichever club it is. Yes, travelling on Thurs *may* have helped a little, playing Wiikman against Fife *may* have helped. The trouble is you don't really know whether the result would have been any different if both those things had happened.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 11:23:32 GMT
PantherB , do you know the terms of the Pacl deal?! No but he's too valuable a prospect to be have bought by the club permenantly, there would be no deal/link in place with Orli either if it wasn't a loan because you're essentially taking a future starting goalie from them who's classed as homegrown in their league Ok matey, on the deal I just wonder if we have an agreement on the number of games Pacl will ideally play.
Check your PM by the way. .
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Post by shinobi on Sept 12, 2016 11:23:51 GMT
No, no, there's no "may" about anything when it comes to Panthers, it's all gospel.
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Post by Lawman on Sept 12, 2016 15:26:37 GMT
I thought Pacl had a very good game in goal for the Panthers and the team was playing with a lot of energy right up to the final hooter after hitting the post at 1-1 it did not quite go for them but a great effort all round
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Post by PantherB on Sept 12, 2016 15:43:09 GMT
Bit of a pointless thing to raise. Wiikman will be fine, good to go next weekend but if he's given lots to do against Cardiff, he will tire and his groin will become more injury prone if he gets played against Steelers in what is likely to be a very tough and physical game. I'd rather sit Wiikman when reasonable to as it's a marathon, not a sprint. If we play him in every game he will get injured, and that'll have us back to square one pretty much and Pacl wouldn't have any time under his belt. Pacl is capable, personally i'd play Wiikman for Cardiff 100% but then re-assess things after the game, if we don't play Pacl, Orli will take him back. Just to interject here, are you seriously worrying about the fitness of your No.1 goalie this early in the season? He should be capable of playing 3 in 3. Let's be honest here plenty of EIHL goalies have done 3 in 3 in the past and been perfectly OK with it. Can see why teams will want the cover Pacl gives you, especially with recent goaltender injuries but if you are suggesting his main team will want him back if he doesn't play then you have to think what the terms of his deal are. For me, the No.1 plays all games unless out of form or injured. There are two sides to this imo. On one hand having cover is great for injuries, on the other hand having to find game time for an import back up could interrupt the form of the number no.1. Yes, other teams in Europe and America\Canada do it, but in all fairness, once it get's to play off time they tend to stick with their No.1. As we are the only league that plays a league system like we do, then you could say our league is more like their playoffs. Results matter far more in our regular season than anywhere else in the world. goalies have done it in the past but they'll end up taking Monday & Possibly Tuesday off to recover, everyone knows what effect game after game has had on Wiikman and if he plays 3in3, then 2 in 2 for the next few weekends then he will get tired and come Christmas, his groin will be ruined. It's not being overly concerned with his health but accepting he's liable to groin injuries as all goalies are but more frequent so it'll always be best in my eyes to give him a night off every so often, even if he says he feels fine. He can be the best in the league when healthy so we've gotta keep it that way. Pacl is very good too, Orli will not be happy if he's in charge of the clipboard or sat in the stands every week. Needs game time and he's got more than enough quality to be an active pusher for the #1 spot. What gets the best out of goalie tandems more than their partner? I understand what you mean though but personally I'm happy to change it up frequently.
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Post by kievthegreat on Sept 12, 2016 15:53:24 GMT
I'm not blaming the team for fatigue......I'm blaming the Panthers GM (it was his decision as was going Friday) for arranging a Scottish 3 in 3 and especially so early in the season. It was a stupid decision,especially so with a goalie who needs protecting from overplaying/injury ! All to save a few quid on an extra nights hotel or travel....madness !! Isn't a 3 in 3 better earlier in the season, when players are less fatigued than they would be in Jan\Feb? Ideally there wouldn't be any 3 in 3 but that isn't the way the league works over here. It's been a decent start for you guys. 4 from 6 in 3 nights away from home is a good effort whichever club it is. Yes, travelling on Thurs *may* have helped a little, playing Wiikman against Fife *may* have helped. The trouble is you don't really know whether the result would have been any different if both those things had happened. Worth noting there is a 2nd 3 in 3 in March. That could be absolutely pivotal in a title race.
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Post by Shorty on Sept 12, 2016 17:46:04 GMT
Isn't a 3 in 3 better earlier in the season, when players are less fatigued than they would be in Jan\Feb? Ideally there wouldn't be any 3 in 3 but that isn't the way the league works over here. It's been a decent start for you guys. 4 from 6 in 3 nights away from home is a good effort whichever club it is. Yes, travelling on Thurs *may* have helped a little, playing Wiikman against Fife *may* have helped. The trouble is you don't really know whether the result would have been any different if both those things had happened. Worth noting there is a 2nd 3 in 3 in March. That could be absolutely pivotal in a title race. Well if we go up a day early and get less than four points I'm heading to the hills with a can of beans and a shotgun.
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Post by fishman on Sept 12, 2016 18:40:07 GMT
Don't forget 3 in 3 for the Continental Cup 21/22/23 Oct and if they get through this then another 3 in 3 awaits
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 19:08:06 GMT
I'll be attending the 3 in 3 in March. Will keep you updated how tiring it is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 22:17:57 GMT
I'll be attending the 3 in 3 in March. Will keep you updated how tiring it is. Had to screenshot this and forward it to the relevant people... No backing out come mid-February now haha
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Post by iginla on Sept 12, 2016 22:33:59 GMT
I'll be attending the 3 in 3 in March. Will keep you updated how tiring it is. Had to screenshot this and forward it to the relevant people... No backing out come mid-February now haha I wouldn't worry about tiredness too much Jordan. If normal service applies.....it won't matter what we do by March. Hope you're setting off a day early ! Lol
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Post by fishman on Sept 13, 2016 7:26:01 GMT
Very unlucky not to get something from this game if the highlights are anything to go by
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Post by EMB on Sept 13, 2016 10:41:24 GMT
Thats what we all thought sitting there watching, we had enought chances to actually be in front. Pacl was really upset with himself but he made some very good saves, he has to improve on his rebound tho' The team were very supportive of him at the end especially Farmer. A thoroughly good weekend with a great following from Nottingham. Dont thing we're going to be seeing Schultz back for a few weeks either, looked like a targeted kneeing from the stands
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Post by ted logan on Sept 13, 2016 11:24:05 GMT
Dont thing we're going to be seeing Schultz back for a few weeks either, looked like a targeted kneeing from the stands Well its an eye for eye. Whoever did it needs to be made accountable. This seasons version of Moran-Marsh-Janssen.
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Post by sevcik on Sept 13, 2016 12:04:49 GMT
Dont thing we're going to be seeing Schultz back for a few weeks either, looked like a targeted kneeing from the stands Well its an eye for eye. Whoever did it needs to be made accountable. This seasons version of Moran-Marsh-Janssen. Certainly looked targeted to me from where I sat. Mind you its Finnertys style of team-physical & cheap shots. Still it wont help him win the league. Very early days but his team already look like bottling it again. Rumour doing the rounds yesterday was that Schultz is out for a month at least. Makes you wonder if in fact he was fully fit in the first place given he got injured in france....
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Post by PantherB on Sept 13, 2016 12:29:55 GMT
Schultz was in better shape for Pre-Season than he was last season. Was very very good, involved all over the place throwing hits, showing off his skill, you name it he did it.
The injury of last year, assuming it's the same leg, may mean his ligaments/muscles aren't as strong and are more likely to get a re-occuring injury but who knows. One thing for sure is, with him we are a better team.
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Post by sevcik on Sept 13, 2016 12:44:28 GMT
Schultz was in better shape for Pre-Season than he was last season. Was very very good, involved all over the place throwing hits, showing off his skill, you name it he did it. The injury of last year, assuming it's the same leg, may mean his ligaments/muscles aren't as strong and are more likely to get a re-occuring injury but who knows. One thing for sure is, with him we are a better team. I nearly said that on my previous post. If it is indeed an injury to the same knee it will only get weaker and weaker. Teams will pick up on it too-like Braehead did. And in double quick time he could potentially become Chris Higgins mark 2. Thats worrying when you would expect him to be one of our top point scorers. Something given this team we cant afford to lose for extended periods without getting import cover in.....
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