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Post by reece182 on Aug 24, 2016 11:00:09 GMT
After watching the rest of the league recruit and may I saw very well from some of them it's left me wondering are we going to be left with scraps? Loosing Cam is a huge blow to the team, no tough guy and No player with the exciting ice presence he has. I really don't feel optimistic about this season, but then again stranger things have happened
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Post by PantherB on Aug 24, 2016 11:02:14 GMT
We are. Be Patient. Corey has guys lined up who are waiting to see if they NHL come calling again, if they don't we'll likely get one of them.
It was only like a year to the day last week that we signed Cam and Brad Moran. Patience does pay off and there's plenty of big names, solid additions out there. Still a month till NHL Training Camps get under way so players are coming to the stage where they are looking beyond North America if no one's been in contact.
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Post by cjmatt42 on Aug 24, 2016 11:07:39 GMT
With the announcement of Bordeleau that search needs to be near an end to stand any chance of getting him in for the 17th September. Anyone remember the night McMorrow owned the NIC?
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Post by PantherB on Aug 24, 2016 11:19:13 GMT
Visa's take 3-4 weeks so i'd assume Bordeleau's was applied for last week as if they're expecting him here on the 10th, that's only allowing 2 and a half weeks from today's date which wouldn't be enough time. Unless we sign someone before Sunday, going on the guidlines of Visa processing times, we won't have them in for the 17th September.
Corey's fault? No. GM's fault? No. British Government's fault? Slightly. Cam's fault? Yes.
It's not ideal but it's not the clubs fault, if Cam told us a week or two earlier we'd probably be heading into the season with everyone signed and just awaiting them coming together.
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Post by panthers_nyr on Aug 24, 2016 11:25:56 GMT
If the targets are waiting on two-way NHL offers my guess would be a McGrattan, Tarnasky or someone of a similar piwer forward/grinder mould rather than out and out enforcer.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Aug 24, 2016 11:39:30 GMT
The radar at Panthers Towers is switched on and searching
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Post by cjmatt42 on Aug 24, 2016 11:45:56 GMT
Is the answer not to get someone signed even if they are just a stop gap solution to the problem? Physicality and intimidation is a huge part of Ice Hockey and at the moment we are there to be bullied. Without some sort of answer we are opening ourselves to a hat full of injuries in the opening weeks as we go up against rosters that have that presence that allows the whole roster to play with more of an edge. You saw the impact Cam had on players last year, they grow another 6 inches and gain 20 pounds.
Can you imagine we have reached out to Cam who so dearly loved the club and supporters to ask him to come over still for the opening few weeks while his replacement was sought? Him or any other quick fix for that matter? It's almost two weeks since Cam made the announcement, plenty of time for wheels to be in motion for a temporary solution.
Maybe it's already happening and we are just waiting to make an announcement. More likely we are quite rightly looking for a higher standard of power forward but not finding a stop gap to the problem while we wait for their arrival which comes with significant risks in order to save a little money.
Let's put it another way, if you ran an freight company and the brakes broke on one of your lorries, would you send your driver back out in the same lorry hoping he can still fulfill his job without getting hurt while you wait for your new shiny lorry to turn up? Or would you find an alternative to help protect your employee in that interim period?
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Post by Jasper on Aug 24, 2016 11:47:35 GMT
With the announcement of Bordeleau that search needs to be near an end to stand any chance of getting him in for the 17th September. Anyone remember the night McMorrow owned the NIC? Would that be the one and only time McMuppet had a positive influence on the game (from an opposition point of view) or all the other occasions when he was thrown out or was an utter irrelevance?
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Post by cjmatt42 on Aug 24, 2016 11:53:03 GMT
With the announcement of Bordeleau that search needs to be near an end to stand any chance of getting him in for the 17th September. Anyone remember the night McMorrow owned the NIC? Would that be the one and only time McMuppet had a positive influence on the game (from an opposition point of view) or all the other occasions when he was thrown out or was an utter irrelevance? Was just highlighting how embarrassing that evening was when we had a roster that couldn't answer the bell which is where we find ourselves as of today. Clearly Bordeleau is a step up from McMorrow but the same principles apply, as our roster looks today he has the keys to run that game if he wishes.
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Post by tim27 on Aug 24, 2016 12:31:52 GMT
I'll be surprised if we have anyone in by the start of October unless they sign a stop gap worthless player like they did last year.
I think it was 5 or 6 games was the difference between finishing 5th or 1st last year and realistically we could lose 4 of those games right at the start of the season with lack of preparation and playing short again. It is about the toughest start to the season you could want with a 3 in 3 long road trip followed by returning home to face one of the top two sides in the league that is well prepared in Cardiff.
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Post by nate24 on Aug 24, 2016 14:24:32 GMT
Visa's take 3-4 weeks so i'd assume Bordeleau's was applied for last week as if they're expecting him here on the 10th, that's only allowing 2 and a half weeks from today's date which wouldn't be enough time. Unless we sign someone before Sunday, going on the guidlines of Visa processing times, we won't have them in for the 17th September. Corey's fault? No. GM's fault? No. British Government's fault? Slightly. Cam's fault? Yes. It's not ideal but it's not the clubs fault, if Cam told us a week or two earlier we'd probably be heading into the season with everyone signed and just awaiting them coming together. We have players let us down every season and every season we show we have no back contingencies to get a full team on the ice. The teams fault Cam let us down? No! The teams fault that they have no resilience? yes, all day long. You could almost safely sign an extra import knowing you will have issues. Other teams carry spares where we are happy with Below minimum.
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Post by pingchowchi on Aug 24, 2016 14:47:33 GMT
But even if we had a spare - I doubt it would have been a cam type of spare...
or are you suggesting we should carry spares for every type of player?
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Post by nate24 on Aug 24, 2016 14:49:53 GMT
But even if we had a spare - I doubt it would have been a cam type of spare... or are you suggesting we should carry spares for every type of player? No, because I'm not stupid. A utility player. Belfast had Benedict. Our team has such a lack lustre Brit pack we can no longer cover the gaps as we've done in the past. Spare import capacity more critical than ever.
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Post by tim27 on Aug 24, 2016 14:58:18 GMT
I believe we have 13 Imports (no sign of the 14th) and Cardiff have 15 plus they have the advantage of having an import quality British net minder and a backup that can actually play the game and is not just on the team because he is cheap.
There is no way we will compete with the likes of Cardiff and Sheffield this year.
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Post by Bagheera on Aug 24, 2016 16:27:07 GMT
No issue with Cams replacement not being signed up yet. Plenty of frustrations around players but more the fact that the ones signed arn't all here yet. If we were in this situation of waiting for our final import without somebody dropping out then I would be pretty annoyed too. The fact is Cam only pulled out a few weeks back and probably not on anybodys radar that this would happen. Not sure many would have had a contingency for Cam dropping out. If getting a quality replacement for Cam means waiting a little longer then im fine with that based on the circumstance. Waiting could mean getting one of the names talked about rather than an average knuckle dragger.
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Post by nate24 on Aug 24, 2016 17:12:41 GMT
I believe we have 13 Imports (no sign of the 14th) and Cardiff have 15 plus they have the advantage of having an import quality British net minder and a backup that can actually play the game and is not just on the team because he is cheap. There is no way we will compete with the likes of Cardiff and Sheffield this year. And that is why I'm taking my friend to her first game at Sheffield. Not risking paying for half a team and a substandard game.
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Post by PantherTom on Aug 26, 2016 22:20:08 GMT
I believe we have 13 Imports (no sign of the 14th) and Cardiff have 15 plus they have the advantage of having an import quality British net minder and a backup that can actually play the game and is not just on the team because he is cheap. There is no way we will compete with the likes of Cardiff and Sheffield this year. And that is why I'm taking my friend to her first game at Sheffield. Not risking paying for half a team and a substandard game. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
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Post by nate24 on Aug 27, 2016 8:56:56 GMT
And that is why I'm taking my friend to her first game at Sheffield. Not risking paying for half a team and a substandard game. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 ill also add we haven't got a home game for over three weeks.
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Post by nate24 on Aug 27, 2016 8:57:10 GMT
And that is why I'm taking my friend to her first game at Sheffield. Not risking paying for half a team and a substandard game. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 ill also add we haven't got a home game for over three weeks.
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