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Post by fishman on Aug 16, 2016 12:19:40 GMT
Does any one know how many imports have not arrived and will not be playing Saturday. No ticket yet, not sure I want to spend £25 to see half a team
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Post by BigLad on Aug 16, 2016 12:27:38 GMT
Based on what info is on the website (interviews etc), these are deffo here so far:
Wiikman Lawrence Brown Carter Sertich Lindhagen
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Post by iginla on Aug 16, 2016 12:42:47 GMT
Hands up,who said a month ago.....stop worrying we will have a full roster for the start ?
Err.....that went well eh !!!
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Post by dill1015 on Aug 16, 2016 12:50:16 GMT
Based on what info is on the website (interviews etc), these are deffo here so far: Wiikman Lawrence Brown Carter Sertich Lindhagen Hasnt Waugh been in Nottingham helping out teach the kids?
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Post by fishman on Aug 16, 2016 13:03:42 GMT
Would those on Uni deal still be at Loughborough?
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Post by PantherB on Aug 16, 2016 13:54:51 GMT
The rest won't be far behind, besides Nikiforuk and Spang. Missing training camp isn't the end of the world, as long as they're in by the weekend and in for Coventry latest.
Remember Pre-Season games aren't about entertainment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 14:16:52 GMT
The rest won't be far behind, besides Nikiforuk and Spang. Missing training camp isn't the end of the world, as long as they're in by the weekend and in for Coventry latest. Remember Pre-Season games aren't about entertainment. It's not ideal though is it. Training camp is about trying different line combinations to see who gels so the team can hit the ground running when the season starts and the games mean something. If some of the players aren't here it makes that process far more difficult.
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Post by Caesar on Aug 16, 2016 15:06:05 GMT
Exactly Jono. Cardiff have had their squad in the country for nearly two weeks. They played two games against a KHL side last weekend. And that was after they had trained with them and picked the coaches brains.
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Post by PantherB on Aug 16, 2016 15:53:09 GMT
The rest won't be far behind, besides Nikiforuk and Spang. Missing training camp isn't the end of the world, as long as they're in by the weekend and in for Coventry latest. Remember Pre-Season games aren't about entertainment. It's not ideal though is it. Training camp is about trying different line combinations to see who gels so the team can hit the ground running when the season starts and the games mean something. If some of the players aren't here it makes that process far more difficult. missing one game isn't a big deal. If players miss the Blaze away and Napoleon Cup then that will certainly not be good but you'd expect only the two mentioned previously and the unsigned import to potentially miss those games. We play Blaze in the CC first weekend in Sept. too, not a big game either.. Practically a glorified Pre-Season game. There's only really the 1st line and part of defence which need the added time to gel. Assuming it's Nikiforuk, Moran & Schultz on line 1. 2nd line is already here, 3rd line you e just gotta throw MacMillan in and obviously with him being a dynamic power forward likely playing with teammates of last year, shouldn't be a problem gelling. 4th line, again, just need to throw the tough guy in though that'll be the checking line, gelling isn't a big deal for that line. It sounds stupid for me to talk about just throwing MacMillan & the tough guy into a line but their role allows for that. The main problem will be if a 1st liner is late to arrive whilst the other 2 are here training with others. Have them arrive together and it'll be much easier and stress free. There's still practically a month/4 weeks till the league starts. Plenty of time.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Aug 16, 2016 16:01:09 GMT
To get to this point in the summer and not even have a full team signed let alone here in training is absolute madness. If CN was ripping the league up year after year by doing this then it would be different. All we need is a poor start to the season again and we are playing catch up right from the start.
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Post by Yotes on Aug 16, 2016 16:19:22 GMT
In fairness to him, he would've had it signed by now if Cam hadn't dropped out.
Still, I think if you know training starts on Monday 15th August, then all decisions on signings should be made with that in mind, and everyone should be on the ice that day. Do it properly or don't bother. That's before we get on to charging list price minus 2 quid (or something) for a fixture where you know we're likely going to be short.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Aug 16, 2016 17:25:11 GMT
In fairness to him, he would've had it signed by now if Cam hadn't dropped out. Still, I think if you know training starts on Monday 15th August, then all decisions on signings should be made with that in mind, and everyone should be on the ice that day. Do it properly or don't bother. That's before we get on to charging list price minus 2 quid (or something) for a fixture where you know we're likely going to be short. Year after year even if we have them all signed they are never here for training camp and quite often the first few games. I think it's pretty poor to be honest when you look at our league record at the start of the year.
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Post by iginla on Aug 16, 2016 20:13:27 GMT
It's an absolute travesty that we do this same thing every year.
What on earth is the point in even having a pre season if you only have part of a team. Pre season is about getting rid of any jet lag,bonding with your teamates,getting fit,picking up systems and gelling lines together.
As for charging virtually full price for a friendly match watching a short benched team.....that is just taking the mickey. Perhaps we should be asking GM for a part refund on the ticket price depending how short we are !
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Post by sevcik on Aug 16, 2016 22:47:41 GMT
To be honest of all the players signed- with the exception of Dan Spang and Nikiforuk should be in the country already unless the have a family emergency etcetera back home to sort out. Given Dan Spang has a euro passport unless he has moving/family issues to sort out before flying over its certainly feasible for him to be in the country by the end of this week. I do however think we may not see Nikiforuk till the start of September. It took Cam approx 4 weeks to get into country after signing for us last season. Given that timescale he may get into country around 2nd September.... hopefully though will be much sooner than that.
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Post by shinobi on Aug 17, 2016 1:37:36 GMT
What's the cost of a ticket for Saturday's game?
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Post by fishman on Aug 17, 2016 7:51:07 GMT
Bronze are £14 for standard adult, discount seniors £12 etc
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Post by shinobi on Aug 17, 2016 9:21:31 GMT
Bronze are £14 for standard adult, discount seniors £12 etc Cheers mate!
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Post by EMB on Aug 17, 2016 13:00:32 GMT
According to Corey on the OS both Clan and us will be missing players this weekend. No news yet on the returnees Schultz, Macca & Moran being here?
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Post by dill1015 on Aug 17, 2016 13:50:13 GMT
According to Corey on the OS both Clan and us will be missing players this weekend. No news yet on the returnees Schultz, Macca & Moran being here? Yeah i can understand a few new guys. Nikuforuk and Spang not being here. But the returnees has no excuse. I think Macca will be in tomorrow though.
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Post by pingchowchi on Aug 17, 2016 14:50:58 GMT
so is it
Wiikman Lawrence Brown Carter Sertich Lindhagen Waugh (Macca tomorrow)
8 Imports
Green Lacho Clarke Farmer Ollie Oakford Lee
7 Brits
Plus a couple of 'youngsters'
Does that sound about right?
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Post by iginla on Aug 17, 2016 15:05:16 GMT
So we're still missing ? Moran Schultz NIkiforuk Dimmen Spang Unknown
Pretty damn poor isn't it !
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Post by Rob Scott on Aug 17, 2016 15:16:07 GMT
So we're still missing ? Moran Schultz NIkiforuk Dimmen Spang Unknown Pretty damn poor isn't it ! Yep, we don't know if it's going to happen yet but there is no good reason for any returning players to be missing the game. Should have been here already for the start of the "camp".
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Post by Caesar on Aug 17, 2016 15:25:46 GMT
Well, you won't see me there. Anyone that pays to watch this is a fool
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 15:42:59 GMT
Who cares which players are here....
Flowervision is back on board!!! for fudges sake
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Post by PantherB on Aug 17, 2016 17:21:28 GMT
Look at it like this;
Nikiforuk and Spang have to wait for their Visa, Spang's shouldn't take long but both have only in the last week or two found out that they'll be moving to the UK. I'd assume both have returned to North America for Offseason. They have to sort out their belongings, pack it and ship it, sort their luggage and flights out, any connections and other travel. Sort out their families, for all we know one of their parents may be ill or very old, suitable arrangements need to be made so they're looked after, of course they may have done it before in the past but things change quickly so it will always be difficult. Any children they may have, wife, girlfriend etc.. They've got to find school places, jobs and sort out all of their needs and requirements too, not exactly easy in a very short space of time.
Moran has kids and his wife, there'll no doubt be a lot of trouble sorting everything out with them making sure they've got everything they need before upping and moving back to the UK after leaving 4 months ago. Should've been sorted earlier? Arguably but his kids are young, anyone who has had kids will know that moving them across the world again will likely be a nightmare.
Schultz and Dimmen, I'd expect both in around the weekend. Perhaps not the Clan game but one game missed won't be a huge trouble. They should have had everything sorted well in advance, especially Dimmen with his University Deal, but again, personal and family stuff may have delayed them. They may have done it before but it's still not a small move.
Perhaps starting Pre-Season a week earlier and having a two week camp would sort out this stuff in the future. Worked well enough for Cardiff and Sheffield though their opponents will likely have given players a bit more motivation thatn it would Braehead and Coventry. Clan are missing players too, they'll be as short as we are, maybe even shorter. They're unlikely to have Rosehill.
Our tough guy, final import.. Should be signed in the next week and here by the end of September, hopefully.
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