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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 9:44:54 GMT
So with just over 2 weeks to the first game, Panthers still need those 2 player's.... anyone concerned
Looks at panthers website 2 articles and in months , utter utter garbage so wouldn't think it was so close to the start of pre season...
I don't know a sports organisation anyway who treats their fans with utter contempt like this one do. Shall we not attend any games for the first month with only a handful of imports as let's be honest those are the players you go to watch!
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Post by nate24 on Aug 3, 2016 9:52:26 GMT
We are not fans we are walking wallets.
They won't even raffle off a game Jersey like other teams.
I'm really hoping this changes as the new media guy finds his feet.
Have we ever waited for someone like we have waited for Kolnik? Sounds like an excuse to me.
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Post by dill1015 on Aug 3, 2016 10:07:28 GMT
Im worried. Im usually optomistic. And i dont really mind not having some random story every other day on a website like other teams do.
However im worried about our on ice situation. I cant escape the feeling that we've dug ourselves into a recruitment hole. I cant feel but feel we've been waitinb too long for answers from Kolnik and Schmit and now that they're not coming back we've left it very late to get someone in.
I can live with the last d man coming in abit late. Not ideal but we look ok on d as it stands. However we need to get our top line winger in. Our teams looks short of goals in our 3rd and 4th lines. We need our top 2 lines to be consitently racking up points. So that guy needs to get here and start geling with Moran and Schultz. Thats where my concern is.
This is all asuming we have set lines. I have a feeling we will as corey did finally settle in some lines at the end of last season so seems to have leant his lesson. I certainly hope so anyway.
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Post by wgray on Aug 3, 2016 10:18:06 GMT
The whole package is lacklustre currently, when you look at Coventry for example their activity is brilliant, multiple interviews with former players, good articles on new signings etc. With sounding like a broken record Gary Moran needs to pass control on, let Callum Chalmers (new media guy) interact with the players, interview them now, give the fans a connection with them before the season starts.
In terms of a lack of news on the signing front there are quality players left, in terms of the last D slot an obvious player to look at is Jim Vandermeer, Left shot, big body, he impressed me last season in his short spell with the Giants. The most likely situation is that the players are signed, but the club (Gary Moran) sees the off season as a time for a holiday so everything goes quiet and we hear very little.
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Post by nate24 on Aug 3, 2016 10:30:39 GMT
The whole package is lacklustre currently, when you look at Coventry for example their activity is brilliant, multiple interviews with former players, good articles on new signings etc. With sounding like a broken record Gary Moran needs to pass control on, let Callum Chalmers (new media guy) interact with the players, interview them now, give the fans a connection with them before the season starts. In terms of a lack of news on the signing front there are quality players left, in terms of the last D slot an obvious player to look at is Jim Vandermeer, Left shot, big body, he impressed me last season in his short spell with the Giants. The most likely situation is that the players are signed, but the club (Gary Moran) sees the off season as a time for a holiday so everything goes quiet and we hear very little. I don't think the last two guys are signed. The language isn't right for that. When they've done that in the past they alluded to the guys being in the system. They are alluding to a short bench just now. As I've said and others also, the league has and can be won by two points. This attitude we can afford to wait is the difference between us and the team that wins the league. We are lucky to finish mid table with the attitude we have just now.
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Post by PantherB on Aug 3, 2016 10:41:07 GMT
The whole package is lacklustre currently, when you look at Coventry for example their activity is brilliant, multiple interviews with former players, good articles on new signings etc. With sounding like a broken record Gary Moran needs to pass control on, let Callum Chalmers (new media guy) interact with the players, interview them now, give the fans a connection with them before the season starts. In terms of a lack of news on the signing front there are quality players left, in terms of the last D slot an obvious player to look at is Jim Vandermeer, Left shot, big body, he impressed me last season in his short spell with the Giants. The most likely situation is that the players are signed, but the club (Gary Moran) sees the off season as a time for a holiday so everything goes quiet and we hear very little. GM doesn't poke his head in with the signings, it's left to Corey, Strachen and now Clarke to sort it all out and talk to players and then tell GM once they're signed. He said it himself that he doesn't like poking his head in when Corey is busy talking to players and their agents so he leaves them all to it. There's plenty of potential reasons as to why we haven't signed the replacements anyway, Quick was looking likely to sign but won't be anymore.. Things fall through, players get better offers from other teams who've maybe had them on their list but not as a key signing, then upon one of their targets falling through, they become priority. I'd assume Corey isn't really using the Cont. Cup draw as a potential attention grabber either with the signings we made last time and for the CHL being particularly disappointing. I'm still very hopeful and optimistic.
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Post by deke on Aug 3, 2016 11:06:52 GMT
It's getting worrying, if these positions we need were lower level positions not key for us then fair enough but it's a key defenceman and our leading star point scorer. It's not good not long left to go and most other teams have their big players signed and ready to go and we are missing two key elements. It's a concerning situation. I said I was worried we hadn't signed anyone for kolnik and I was worried we would struggle if we left it too long and got shouted down and told we had pleanty of time to sign and they didn't understand my negativity. We are now even closer and not even a hint we have our eye on a player. Just more of "we are waiting for the right players" I tell you what if we lose kolnik and schmidt and get poor replacements there will be a lot of anger. With all the good players we could have tried to get gone to other teams i hope for Corey sake he has two huge names to pull out of the bag.
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Post by nate24 on Aug 3, 2016 11:12:56 GMT
PanthersB we all want you to be right but even at your most optimistic you must have seen what GM says and what is reality are two different things.
A couple of seasons ago we had a player (can't remember who but he was on our CHL roster) who had a mare of a game and couldn't hook two moves together.
Gary said it was because he was such a good player and reads the game so well that when he went against d men of such lower calibre he couldn't read them as he was so good and the defencemen 'were not where they were supposed to be' in relation to the players he'd normally face.
If that's not a sign of delusion I don't know what is.
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Post by Yotes on Aug 3, 2016 11:19:24 GMT
A couple of seasons ago we had a player (can't remember who but he was on our CHL) had a mare of a game and couldn't hook two moves together. Gary said it was because he was such a good player and reads the game so well that when he went against d men of such lower calibre he couldn't read them as he was so good and the defencemen 'were not where they were supposed to be' in relation to the players he'd normally face. I remember that, classic GM. I'm not remotely worried, just a bit bored. Would be nice to have a bit of grist for the mill.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 11:26:08 GMT
PanthersB we all want you to be right but even at your most optimistic you must have seen what GM says and what is reality are two different things. A couple of seasons ago we had a player (can't remember who but he was on our CHL) had a mare of a game and couldn't hook two moves together. Gary said it was because he was such a good player and reads the game so well that when he went against d men of such lower calibre he couldn't read them as he was so good and the defencemen 'were not where they were supposed to be' in relation to the players he'd normally face. If that's not a sign of delusion I don't know what is. You are referring to Nathan Robinson
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Post by nate24 on Aug 3, 2016 11:31:07 GMT
PanthersB we all want you to be right but even at your most optimistic you must have seen what GM says and what is reality are two different things. A couple of seasons ago we had a player (can't remember who but he was on our CHL) had a mare of a game and couldn't hook two moves together. Gary said it was because he was such a good player and reads the game so well that when he went against d men of such lower calibre he couldn't read them as he was so good and the defencemen 'were not where they were supposed to be' in relation to the players he'd normally face. If that's not a sign of delusion I don't know what is. You are referring to Nathan Robinson Thanks Pidge, good memory.
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Post by lindros on Aug 3, 2016 12:20:52 GMT
One how much has he spent to keep the British players.two is he waiting to see how mosey gets on in the ahl but it seems every year we go short of players to save money
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Post by Stargazer on Aug 3, 2016 12:35:28 GMT
A couple of seasons ago we had a player (can't remember who but he was on our CHL) had a mare of a game and couldn't hook two moves together. Gary said it was because he was such a good player and reads the game so well that when he went against d men of such lower calibre he couldn't read them as he was so good and the defencemen 'were not where they were supposed to be' in relation to the players he'd normally face. I remember that, classic GM. I'm not remotely worried, just a bit bored. Would be nice to have a bit of grist for the mill. He should have presented himself with the Joe Grimaldi Award for such a comment!
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Post by PantherB on Aug 3, 2016 13:26:00 GMT
PanthersB we all want you to be right but even at your most optimistic you must have seen what GM says and what is reality are two different things. A couple of seasons ago we had a player (can't remember who but he was on our CHL roster) who had a mare of a game and couldn't hook two moves together. Gary said it was because he was such a good player and reads the game so well that when he went against d men of such lower calibre he couldn't read them as he was so good and the defencemen 'were not where they were supposed to be' in relation to the players he'd normally face. If that's not a sign of delusion I don't know what is. He sticks his beak out of the signing business though whilst continuing to be deluded and having the spotlights aimed at him everywhere else lol! But i agree with your point, he's very much 2 faced. The knackered old goat just needs to give up and take a back seat, answer the telephones or something instead. I remember going to buy a replica 'anniversary' jersey, queued for a good hour or so before they went on sale and when he eventually turned up he did the most morbid of waves you could imagine and then disappeared. To say he's all about image he doesn't do a particularly good job in person, does a decent enough job getting the sponsors from sat at his desk but that's about it.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Aug 3, 2016 14:32:52 GMT
The whole package is lacklustre currently, when you look at Coventry for example their activity is brilliant, multiple interviews with former players, good articles on new signings etc. With sounding like a broken record Gary Moran needs to pass control on, let Callum Chalmers (new media guy) interact with the players, interview them now, give the fans a connection with them before the season starts. In terms of a lack of news on the signing front there are quality players left, in terms of the last D slot an obvious player to look at is Jim Vandermeer, Left shot, big body, he impressed me last season in his short spell with the Giants. The most likely situation is that the players are signed, but the club (Gary Moran) sees the off season as a time for a holiday so everything goes quiet and we hear very little. GM doesn't poke his head in with the signings, it's left to Corey, Strachen and now Clarke to sort it all out and talk to players and then tell GM once they're signed. He said it himself that he doesn't like poking his head in when Corey is busy talking to players and their agents so he leaves them all to it. There's plenty of potential reasons as to why we haven't signed the replacements anyway, Quick was looking likely to sign but won't be anymore.. Things fall through, players get better offers from other teams who've maybe had them on their list but not as a key signing, then upon one of their targets falling through, they become priority. I'd assume Corey isn't really using the Cont. Cup draw as a potential attention grabber either with the signings we made last time and for the CHL being particularly disappointing. I'm still very hopeful and optimistic. lol! Are you even serious?? GM would even poke his head in with throwing the blue pucks into the urinals if he could.
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Post by Neil on Aug 3, 2016 16:23:21 GMT
PanthersB we all want you to be right but even at your most optimistic you must have seen what GM says and what is reality are two different things. A couple of seasons ago we had a player (can't remember who but he was on our CHL) had a mare of a game and couldn't hook two moves together. Gary said it was because he was such a good player and reads the game so well that when he went against d men of such lower calibre he couldn't read them as he was so good and the defencemen 'were not where they were supposed to be' in relation to the players he'd normally face. If that's not a sign of delusion I don't know what is. You are referring to Nathan Robinson Im sure it was actually Chris Lawrence
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Post by Yotes on Aug 3, 2016 17:13:12 GMT
You are referring to Nathan Robinson Im sure it was actually Chris Lawrence Point to Neil for that one, was indeed GM talking about Chris Lawrence on The Locker Room (remember that?).
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Post by iginla on Aug 3, 2016 17:15:23 GMT
So with just over 2 weeks to the first game, Panthers still need those 2 player's.... anyone concerned Looks at panthers website 2 articles and in months , utter utter garbage so wouldn't think it was so close to the start of pre season... I don't know a sports organisation anyway who treats their fans with utter contempt like this one do. Shall we not attend any games for the first month with only a handful of imports as let's be honest those are the players you go to watch! I agree with you Pidge. It's ridiculous that we still have two very big signings to make this late. But you've changed your tune haven't you. Some of us could see this coming a month ago and you told us to pipe down and all would be fine if I remember correctly.
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Post by dexter on Aug 3, 2016 18:00:38 GMT
Very poor really at this stage of the year. I've bought my season ticket but i won't be going to any non-ST games until we get a full roster. I pay to see a full team.
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Post by nate24 on Aug 3, 2016 18:31:29 GMT
Very poor really at this stage of the year. I've bought my season ticket but i won't be going to any non-ST games until we get a full roster. I pay to see a full team. But you get a £1 discount!
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Aug 3, 2016 18:50:31 GMT
Very poor really at this stage of the year. I've bought my season ticket but i won't be going to any non-ST games until we get a full roster. I pay to see a full team. But you get a £1 discount! Love a classic Panthers £1 discount, like we're stuck in 1980.
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Post by nate24 on Aug 3, 2016 19:05:20 GMT
But you get a £1 discount! Love a classic Panthers £1 discount, like we're stuck in 1980. Oh come on! Do you not feel that is adequate reward for your loyalty! I mean hundreds of people may attend that clan game so they can't throw away tickets to fill empty seats in pre season as gesture of good will.
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Post by iginla on Aug 3, 2016 19:21:28 GMT
Love a classic Panthers £1 discount, like we're stuck in 1980. Oh come on! Do you not feel that is adequate reward for your loyalty! I mean hundreds of people may attend that clan game so they can't throw away tickets to fill empty seats in pre season as gesture of good will. But there's a trophy on the line ! Probably made of wood though,like that awful cheeseboard thing last time.
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Post by PantherB on Aug 3, 2016 19:33:21 GMT
Very poor really at this stage of the year. I've bought my season ticket but i won't be going to any non-ST games until we get a full roster. I pay to see a full team. I guess you haven't been to a Non ST Game for many, many years then? Surprised you pay for the ST if you only want to pay to see a full roster.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Aug 3, 2016 19:58:25 GMT
I have every faith that we will have a full quota of imports when the puck is dropped at the arena for a competitive game . . . Which game however I do not know. I'd love to see us go a season with consistent lines, full Import quota and no serious injuries, we'll have players take knocks and sit the next game but here's hoping that's all we have.
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