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Post by jdizpt8 on Feb 29, 2016 18:55:10 GMT
Very conviniet use of camera angle for the incident so it softens what Keith did, you can tell from Cam's reaction that Keith's spear was bad (he says as if spearing isn't bad enough) is there also a blind side punch thrown at Cam when the linesman has hold of him?
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Post by Mark Mac on Feb 29, 2016 20:59:25 GMT
Even on that angle it's clear he made no contact with the head it was a clean shoulder hit. I'm normally really careful to judge with these video replays but I entirely agree. You can see that there isn't head contact. Yes it is a bit higher than you'd like but he contacts the shoulder. The clan's use of a rubbish camera angle adds weight to that. It should not have been a penalty. The spearing incident needs further action. Let's see what happens.
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Post by endisforever91 on Feb 29, 2016 21:42:51 GMT
Are the Panthers going to make a review request against a team with the same owner?
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Post by dusseldorf on Feb 29, 2016 23:21:10 GMT
Went to the game in Braehead and Cory got it pretty accurate. The best team lost and the officials were bad. The camera angles just make things more difficult, but funny how the whole game was shown on full view except the incidents. Still all to play for although the league is probably beyond us but the cup and Playoffs are a reality. This team is good enough we just need to believe!!!
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 1, 2016 6:30:07 GMT
That hit from cam was nothing. The spearing was 10 times worse and needs a long ban esp if it's the same guy that speared him last time. I'm not sure where this 'dirty' reputation for cam comes from, sadly I've seen no evidence of it at all. The ruling the dops create for this one will be interesting and quite big for the future of the league. Do they want box office characters who get people on their feet and ignite dull games or do they want to protect moaning spearers and incompetent officials? I guess it depends which of the inner circle is pretending to be an independent panel on this occasion.
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Mar 1, 2016 8:29:44 GMT
How long did Mosienko get for spearing Bohmbach(?) in the face? Can't see Keith's spear getting much more than the 5+game it got. As for the hit, I can't see much wrong with it from that angle, be interesting to see it from another angle, although I'm sure we'll not get that chance.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Mar 1, 2016 9:12:02 GMT
How long did Mosienko get for spearing Bohmbach(?) in the face? Can't see Keith's spear getting much more than the 5+game it got. As for the hit, I can't see much wrong with it from that angle, be interesting to see it from another angle, although I'm sure we'll not get that chance. The DOPS reviews normally carry a video if they decide to hand a ban out so here's hoping we don't see a different angle
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Post by endisforever91 on Mar 1, 2016 9:19:19 GMT
He's not going to get anything unless the Panthers report him. Will you report a player from a team with the same owner?
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Post by johnbluebeam on Mar 1, 2016 10:12:31 GMT
Looks like Keith incident is not being reviewed. Poor show by Panthers IMO.
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Post by panthersdave on Mar 1, 2016 10:14:18 GMT
He's not going to get anything unless the Panthers report him. Will you report a player from a team with the same owner? I think we have done in the past, yes. I think you are fishing for something that isn't there.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 1, 2016 10:54:50 GMT
He's not going to get anything unless the Panthers report him. Will you report a player from a team with the same owner? I think we have done in the past, yes. I think you are fishing for something that isn't there. I think it's a reasonable point in the whole DOPS debate. A review would either cost us money, or them wages, and they all come back to Neil. There was no value to us in asking for a review this time, we're done with Braehead. Would only really be helping other teams out, why would we want to do that?
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Post by panthersdave on Mar 1, 2016 11:54:02 GMT
I think we have done in the past, yes. I think you are fishing for something that isn't there. I think it's a reasonable point in the whole DOPS debate. A review would either cost us money, or them wages, and they all come back to Neil. There was no value to us in asking for a review this time, we're done with Braehead. Would only really be helping other teams out, why would we want to do that? I think the tactical review issue is a bigger concern than the joint ownership one.
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Post by endisforever91 on Mar 1, 2016 12:12:55 GMT
Agree on the tactical reviews. Why complain about a player when they are going to end up suspended against your nearest opponents?
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Post by Yotes on Mar 1, 2016 12:18:58 GMT
Yes it is, I agree Dave. But both should be avoidable if they're serious about DOPS being about player safety.
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 1, 2016 12:19:10 GMT
The fact that the dops is based on money and tactics rather than rules and fair play speaks volumes about this league. If you are going to appoint someone to dops, they should review every match.
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Post by wantsabeard on Mar 1, 2016 12:56:37 GMT
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Mar 1, 2016 13:40:44 GMT
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Post by panthers_nyr on Mar 1, 2016 14:20:21 GMT
I'm assuming you're one of those idiotic Clan fans who were earlier trying to tell me that because he threw a hit on a Clan player it was intent to injure but it was fine for any player to do the exact same (basically make a clean hit) or spear someone and then dug up this article to try and prove something that isn't relevant?
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Post by wgray on Mar 1, 2016 14:59:41 GMT
what does this offer in regards to the game between Clan and Panthers?
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Post by shmyrohdear on Mar 1, 2016 17:53:36 GMT
This article is amateurish, not a liable source and it also means nothing. His job was to hit, this still being a time when being caught with your head down was deemed a legal hit. He was there to intimidate and was there to play the body. The so called Homophobic comments were taken out of context, if you followed the NHL you'd know all about this already,do your research before hand. Clean hit. Maybe next year you lot should sign a couple of guys with a bit of back bone.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 19:20:38 GMT
Fair play for having the bottle to post on here. Very unlike you guys.
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 1, 2016 20:15:38 GMT
I think he's saying that the clan suck (expletives) lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 12:10:14 GMT
Fair play for having the bottle to post on here. Very unlike you guys. Give them credit, they post once and then run. Heard off Discoray yet? On topic, can't defend what he said all them years ago and I wondered how long it would take a rival fan to post them on here, I guess that he hasn't given them opportunity to do so, until now apparently, in the months he has been here may speak volumes about how he has changed as a person and player. Could you provide some more recent articles that point him out as the same person that made those nasty comments? Or give reference to any incidents that highlight him as someone who hasn't learnt from his mistakes? I'm happy to be proven wrong, as this is what debate is about. While we're about it, what do you think of a player that throws three illegal checks in two games? Also, what do you make of a player who doesn't attempt to fight or talk after witnessing a wrongdoing in his eyes and instead reduces himself to throwing his stick into a players face? Because both of those actions scream goon to me yet you don't seem to have made any comment on either of these incidents. So, just saying? Or just trolling? If the latter is the case then pass me the salt, I could do with a pinch.
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Post by Bagheera on Mar 2, 2016 13:41:46 GMT
Don't they have to supply all footage to DOPS though? I'm fairly sure i've read before that they have to supply them with all evidence from any camera recording. Certainly full game footage. The highlights are just for the fans. They may have only shown this angle to prevent a backlash from Panthers supporters. They will have to provide all angles they have on camera based on the leagues rules. But if Braehead make a case of saying we used that angle because we had a "camera fault" then i don't see what the league can do. Even on that angle it's clear he made no contact with the head it was a clean shoulder hit. The Cowan showed no sign of calling a penalty until he stayed down, he was looking the whole time. Pathetic excuse for an official, hope his job's in question because Corey never makes comments as strong as that and i believe whole heartedly that him reacting that way is a sure sign of how bad Cowan was. So acording to Panthers latest update Braehead have actually pulled the faulty equiptment card. Unbeleivable. The sooner this league is run by an independant chairman/board the better. A board that don't take this nonsence and hold people accountable for their actions or failures. Unfortuantly we are more likely to see pigs fly before this happens.
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Post by dp on Mar 2, 2016 14:00:30 GMT
Amazing isn't it? Isn't the precedent that Keith should get a 12 game ban then? Isn't that what Emerson got? It was reduced but wasn't it reduced with a warning that it wouldn't be tolerated again?
Yes they did supply SOME footage, but I think this is even worse given that the main camera was working for the rest of the game. Caps camera problems actually seemed genuine.
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