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Post by wgray on Feb 16, 2016 14:38:29 GMT
Good move for Paul and hopefully he can help us in another way by helping the Storm beat some of our rivals, Lee has been the biggest liability on the defence by a mile, Swindlehurst doesn't make the turnovers that Lee does and he is still young and learning from the mistakes that he has made and that is to be expected
At least now Lee's ice time will be reduced and the responsibility on his shoulders will be less so he can focus on simplifying his game.
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Post by dill1015 on Feb 16, 2016 14:46:50 GMT
I think this is a savvy move from Corey. As has been pointed out we don't play Storm again so he's not playing against us.
This strikes me as a locker room decision. Corey has already benched him once this season even though we were short of players which is very telling imo. This could be the kick up the bum Swindlehurst needs.
This also solves the problem of juggling too many Dmen and trying to keep everyone happy with ice time.
regarding the Lee v Swindlehurst argument. There's no doubt in my mind that Lee is a better player overall, i just feel he's going though a tough season. He looks like he lacks a bit of confidence (i think he has ever since he took that check to the head last season). I think on top of that he's been dropped in the deep end a bit this season, being asked to be a transition player and contribute with scoring. For me Lee is an out and out stay at home guy. when he plays that tough simple game he's very effective and this is the role he should be given. Pair him with Quick, let Kevin worrying about getting the puck forward and let Stevie get back to what he does best.
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Post by RBR97 on Feb 16, 2016 15:11:12 GMT
wow I'm guessing these days panthers hold all training session in the main arena and they all get changed in the car park and anyone can attend. So many folk in the know.....
Think it's a good call, he can sit keeping our bench warm for the rest of the season whether Lee is MVP or collecting a wooden spoon after each game or go off to Manchester, get plenty of ice time, improve all aspect of his game on and off the ice.
The alternative, keep Paul and say bye to Lee who will be snapped up by another Erhardt team and then wait for all the posts on here after said team have beaten us saying why did we ever let Lee go.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 15:37:32 GMT
Isn't Swindlehurst from somewhere near Manchester? Perhaps that was part of the decision? Whatever the circumstances, hats off to Storm for strengthening themselves and good luck to Paul. Though the Manchester Thirteen doesn't sound as good as the Manchester Twelve lol.
Hope it improves his game and he comes back to us afterwards but, I can see him enjoying his time up north and staying a while, possibly much longer if he is a local lad.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 16, 2016 17:16:13 GMT
Way I'm interpreting this is should Lee or 1/2 of the import D get injured then he would return to Panthers Provided that can happen, fine, I don't really see anything in the presser that suggests Manchester will be sending him back at our whim though, but I've only read our report. If that can't happen, then we're hoping for the best from a defense corps made up of 3 guys who've all had reasonably lengthy spells out, a guy who's not played much this year, Quick and the old iron man Bry all backed up by Oaky, who I like but he doesn't have Swindlehurst's upside. Maybe we'll not get another injury this year on defence, but I'd suggest history is not on our side there. Also it seems to highlight the folly in putting so many eggs in the Brit basket, that we've now had to send one away and bring in import quality. We were trumpeting the depth our Brits gave us a week ago, how we had injuries covered because of them etc, not so much now. |
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Post by iginla on Feb 16, 2016 17:45:07 GMT
The way i read it is he is in Manchester for the rest of the season and we don't get him back.
But i guess if Manchester don't make the play offs,then theoretically he could come back to us once the league season ends and play for Panthers in the play offs.
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Post by kezypanther on Feb 16, 2016 18:26:08 GMT
Not sure if this has been posted already but Neilson seems to suggest the loan move could be for next season too around the 4 min mark.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Feb 16, 2016 18:46:10 GMT
It's interesting to hear people different takes on Swindlehurst recently. From my point of view I thought he'd been playing well - mainly because he's scored a few nice goals and in most other games I've seen him icing but not noticing him (normally a positive for any d-man to be unnoticed).
On the flip side I notice Steve Lee throwing out loose passes and often caught in possession. To me, Stevie seems to have lost a lot of confidence since November (correlated to the form of the team).
That's just been a casual interpretation though as I've not really paying much attention to PS recently, so it's fascinating how bad some people reckon he's been.
Having thought about it more this afternoon though, this move makes sense for both teams. If PS is to remain on loan into next season though, it's a massive blow to Corey's reputation of nurturing British talent!
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Post by pantherdman on Feb 16, 2016 18:57:14 GMT
Crazy!
I bet he ends up at one of our rivals and haunts us for years.
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Post by fishman on Feb 16, 2016 19:14:44 GMT
CN says in the interview at the 4min 30sec point " it maybe next year or the year after that" for Swindlehurst return!!!!!, so who knows how that one will end.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 16, 2016 19:37:33 GMT
CN says in the interview at the 4min 30sec point " it maybe next year or the year after that" for Swindlehurst return!!!!!, so who knows how that one will end. Hopefully that decision is nothing to do with Neilson. |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 16, 2016 20:59:20 GMT
May be an attitude problem and could be he rubbed Neilson up the wrong way but a Brit prospect at his age who is already a GB regular and you let him go just about calls BS on the Brit development angle. Perhaps he wasn't very sociable on quiz nights.
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Post by jd on Feb 17, 2016 9:57:47 GMT
Looks even more stupid now that both new import d arent here for tonight game
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Post by fishman on Feb 17, 2016 10:47:49 GMT
Would we really want Swindlehurst to play tonight even though he's been told go to the Storm and come back when you've improved, fans wanted action From Panthers management and this it, couldn't continue to ship goals at this rate Panther's have conceded 35 since the start of the year, 2.69 per game
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Post by cjmatt42 on Feb 17, 2016 12:39:06 GMT
Perhaps putting too much faith in Panthers management but surely this means MacDonald and Quick will be here tomorrow / are already here. Surely there is no way we've taken this decision to visit a rink we haven't won this season with Schmidt, Waugh, Lee, Oakford, Mosey and a very rusty Dimmen on D?!? Then again it wouldn't surprise me... And so it proves, far to much faith in the way the club is ran. Now we visit a rink we've lost 3 times in already this year with no left handed D, Jeff Dimmen who hasn't played bar 25 minutes in almost 2 months and Sam Oakford making up part of the top 6. Sorry but that is shambolic when there has been 10 days between games to get things organised. |
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Post by titch on Feb 17, 2016 12:49:26 GMT
More than happy with this. We have enough d now and with the reduced ice time lee should get better. Also with more responsibility at storm Paul will only get better. Win win for me. So glad that there are people on here with brains... Swindlehurst won't win us any games this season but he could lose us some, not to say he isn't a good player because he will become one of the best British dmen by far. We have enough dmen now and he will develop more at Storm than he will with us, hopefully he comes back next season to us. We are also helping out Storm, who will very much appreciate it and it's better to have friends in the league than enemies. Win win situation. Funny how the Panthers just can't win most of the fans over, there will always be moaners regardless if we sign players or not. edit: Regardless if Swindlehurst was here tonight or not, he wouldn't be the difference between winning or losing. |
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Post by texpef on Feb 17, 2016 16:07:42 GMT
Amazing Baz.. thought the filter sorted it anyway...  |
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Post by Yotes on Feb 17, 2016 16:12:46 GMT
Amazing Baz.. thought the filter sorted it anyway... It took you 25 minutes to post that tex The filter only catches what we tell it to catch, it's not from a provided list. Some of you charm school dropouts will still manage to defeat us, but will get the warning that goes with it, so hollow - and entirely pointless - victories. |
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Post by texpef on Feb 17, 2016 16:51:12 GMT
Very generous too Yotes.. instant ban on steeltalk..
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