alane
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Post by alane on Feb 16, 2016 12:07:17 GMT
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Post by panthersdave on Feb 16, 2016 12:08:44 GMT
Wtf?
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Feb 16, 2016 12:08:39 GMT
Shocked how anyone can rate Lee as better than Swindlehurst this season (and I'm a big Steve Lee fan)!
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Post by jd on Feb 16, 2016 12:09:58 GMT
The sooner CN leaves the better - this is a mental decision
How on earth Lee keeps getting ice time is beyond me
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Neil
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Post by Neil on Feb 16, 2016 12:11:16 GMT
Im not sure this is hockey related, just a hunch.
Seemed to be having a decent season then suddenly benched and now "loaned" out
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Post by Yotes on Feb 16, 2016 12:19:08 GMT
Bizarre. Good job they deleted that guff yesterday about no one being moved out the door, shame they didn't tell The Post to delete it too though.
Let's hope we don't get any injuries on defence then, we have rock solid luck in that department though so sure we'll be fine.
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Post by cjmatt42 on Feb 16, 2016 12:23:19 GMT
Perhaps putting too much faith in Panthers management but surely this means MacDonald and Quick will be here tomorrow / are already here. Surely there is no way we've taken this decision to visit a rink we haven't won this season with Schmidt, Waugh, Lee, Oakford, Mosey and a very rusty Dimmen on D?!? Then again it wouldn't surprise me...
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Post by EMB on Feb 16, 2016 12:23:49 GMT
Im not sure this is hockey related, just a hunch. Seemed to be having a decent season then suddenly benched and now "loaned" out Was mentioned a couple of weeks ago that there is an 'attitude' problem, whether thats true or not is anyone's guess, although he was benched the next game & then played really well in Dundee, Corey did hint at a problem on his interview from Dundee. I thought he had come on really well since the beginning of the season & from recent interviews with Corey he still thinks Stevie Lee is the dogs danglers. He is obviously protecting him as he must know everyone is getting on his back. Shame for Paul but at least he will get a good amount of ice time. Not all is rosy & 'the best place to play' at the Panthers. If your face fits.... Then again the Storm have said Corey gave him a glowing report. I wonder if Paul would still be on panthers radar when & if Corey leaves?
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EMB
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Post by EMB on Feb 16, 2016 12:25:16 GMT
Perhaps putting too much faith in Panthers management but surely this means MacDonald and Quick will be here tomorrow / are already here. Surely there is no way we've taken this decision to visit a rink we haven't won this season with Schmidt, Waugh, Lee, Oakford, Mosey and a very rusty Dimmen on D?!? Then again it wouldn't surprise me... I wouldnt surprise me either, we were short a couple of weeks ago but he still benched Paul for the whole match.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 16, 2016 12:28:40 GMT
Get rid of Swindlehurst and keep Oakford lol
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Post by BigLad on Feb 16, 2016 12:29:53 GMT
Could Oakford's good form played a part in this decision too maybe?
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Post by Pies on Feb 16, 2016 12:33:13 GMT
I'm going to be honest - I think whilst Lee hasn't had his best season, I think this is more down to what he's been asked to do. He isn't a PP quarter back or an offensive d man. If he's asked to just play at his own end, I think he'll be better for it
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 16, 2016 12:34:29 GMT
I'm going to be honest - I think whilst Lee hasn't had his best season, I think this is more down to what he's been asked to do. He isn't a PP quarter back or an offensive d man. If he's asked to just play at his own end, I think he'll be better for it I agree but CN sees him as CN Jr and has for years now.
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Feb 16, 2016 12:34:38 GMT
Could Oakford's good form played a part in this decision too maybe? Did I blink during that shift?!
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Post by iginla on Feb 16, 2016 12:41:20 GMT
It's the right decision to let one go,but personally it would have been Oakford for me.
You just don't need eight Dmen,especially as we have a lot of big games coming up where numbers 7 and 8 are hardly going to get on the ice anyway.
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Post by texpef on Feb 16, 2016 12:41:31 GMT
Me too, maybe due to a lack of regular ice time but there have been serious weaknesses with all 3 british d men this season especially oakford...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 12:45:43 GMT
Let truth be known Swindlehurst has been a calamity in recent weeks. I can see quick and Macdonald controlling the pp and just leave Lee to concentrate and his defensive duties.
Good move. 5 strong import d now
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Post by Shorty on Feb 16, 2016 12:47:43 GMT
I think Oakford has more scope being used on a forward line that Swindlehurst, which might have been a factor.
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Post by cjmatt42 on Feb 16, 2016 12:52:42 GMT
Regardless of whether his face fits or not it makes sense to me to have loaned Lee or Swindlehurst out ahead of Oakford. End of the day Oakford is playing at about the right level, 7th D man (covering for injuries, games misconducts etc). Therefore keeping him in that situation makes sense. I'd rather have seen Lee or Swindlehurst as the case is go and get regular minutes and potentially help Manchester take points of Sheffield / Cardiff / Braehead. End of the day moving Oakford on to Manchester wouldn't make them that much stronger. Way I'm interpreting this is should Lee or 1/2 of the import D get injured then he would return to Panthers having had regular ice time in the interim.
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Post by fishman on Feb 16, 2016 13:11:50 GMT
Don't think Lee would be loaned out to any other other Elite league team, like it or not Lee is a integral part of the Panther's, I think he will replace Clarke as the next club captain.
Swindlehurst had some poor games and for that he's been benched and reduced ice time, so to go to his home town team is for him not so bad a move IMO.
And "now in Coventry in the league. The limit on the number of "imports" means there could be need for two so-called 'healthy scratches"
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Post by coogamooga on Feb 16, 2016 13:30:34 GMT
Gotta agree with Pidge on this one. As much as I've berated Lee this season for his mistakes, Swindlehurst has been a total liability of late. Cost us too many goals and too many games. Right decision from CN!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 13:30:59 GMT
Not sure what people's problem is with this.
Whatever we think of Lee as a player he is way more important to the system than Swindlehurst is. No way Corey would have let Lee go out on loan.
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Post by Bagheera on Feb 16, 2016 13:36:56 GMT
Rumours of disciplinary issues, ego issues etc probably led Corey to go this way. Could be Coreys ego. Or a combination of the two. Something like "I don't want him on my team & he won't get any ice time. Do what you want with him to the end of the season. If i'm not here you can bring him back if that's what you want".
Not sure it's down to who has been the better player or who has shown better form. Rather more because of the above.
However Steve Lee has had somewhat of a poor season but, as stated above he is a big part of Panthers and Corey likes him. He has also suffered from being over used. Steve deserves time to get it right and not a player i'd be happy to see leave long term(I reserve the right to change this opinion if his form continues into next season).
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Post by endisforever91 on Feb 16, 2016 13:52:55 GMT
To be honest thinks this works for both teams. We're short of a D, you have one too many, we don't play each other again this season and you could do with us picking up some points against Cardiff, Sheffield and Braehead.
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Post by kezypanther on Feb 16, 2016 14:17:43 GMT
More than happy with this. We have enough d now and with the reduced ice time lee should get better.
Also with more responsibility at storm Paul will only get better.
Win win for me.
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