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Post by Higgy on Jan 30, 2016 22:56:23 GMT
Yes because he did all he could on the goals,he didn't have that many saves to make to be honest.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 30, 2016 23:00:12 GMT
I thought Devils were good value for the win. No complaints from me.
Don't think we were especially poor really, just beaten by a better side. A lack of guile at times, the usual random line generator from Neilson, but not a lot of cockups and stuff to get angry at.
Other results have helped Cardiff and Braehead, looks like it's down to them.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Jan 30, 2016 23:06:08 GMT
How did we have 32 shots on goal?! I'd say 50% of them hit a Cardiff player infront of the net! The willingness of the Devils players to put their body between puck and goal is brilliant! I felt we played well in the first good intensity but our shooting was off we always seem to want that extra pass or extra touch or try one move too many just take the shot early and go in for seconds on the goalie. Bowns was hardly tested tonight many of his saves were routine I felt. League hasn't mathematically gone so I'll look to the hockey gods for a lot of help!!! Just one note from the game about the officiating I felt it was poor tonight. And Corey please just keep settled lines and let cam go out and do his thing!!
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Post by iginla on Jan 30, 2016 23:14:52 GMT
Forget the league,it's gone,again.......a straight fight now between Cardiff and Braehead.
We should have signed a Dman and an out and out sniper ages ago !
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Post by moz on Jan 30, 2016 23:26:47 GMT
the shots on goal totals have been dodgey for a while, don't think we created a clear cut chance that needed a great save, they just collapsed round the net and cleared all the rebounds away. we gave the goalie mom to make out he won the game for them but he didn't, the majority of shots hit him without him having to move much , most never got through.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Jan 30, 2016 23:31:52 GMT
the shots on goal totals have been dodgey for a while, don't think we created a clear cut chance that needed a great save, they just collapsed round the net and cleared all the rebounds away. we gave the goalie mom to make out he won the game for them but he didn't, the majority of shots hit him without him having to move much , most never got through. Exactly. The amount of rebound his gives up we should have drove the net but we didnt
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Post by Yotes on Jan 30, 2016 23:32:03 GMT
Panthers should hand out pinches of salt to go with their shot counts Always been the same, like you say Moz it allows them to paint the picture they want to paint (when I say they, I mean Gary).
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Post by PantherG on Jan 30, 2016 23:45:57 GMT
Forget the league,it's gone,again.......a straight fight now between Cardiff and Braehead. We should have signed a Dman and an out and out sniper ages ago ! A few of been saying this for months, but Corey and Moran know better!!!
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Post by iginla on Jan 31, 2016 0:05:46 GMT
There was a Panthers goalie not that long ago,who used to count the shots he faced and he was convinced his saves count was reduced by Panthers just so that his save % was lower than it should be. His thinking was that next season his stats wern't as good so any contract offer would be lower.
And his saves % was actually very very good,the best we have had by a margin.
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Post by dusseldorf on Jan 31, 2016 0:07:59 GMT
Best team won tonight more desire and determination. Cory sums it up correctly in his review. League has gone but we have a team which can win the cup an playoffs - just need to turn up !!!
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Post by shmyrohdear on Jan 31, 2016 0:24:52 GMT
Think Salters broke the diving board in the fist period. Not signing another pure goal scorer is biting us big time. All those shots were mostly square to Bowns he didn't really have much to do effort wise. We need to find a way to break out of our zone instead of holding the puck behind our net for extensive periods of time. Something in the system has to change.
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Post by wgray on Jan 31, 2016 0:28:35 GMT
Think Salters broke the diving board in the fist period. Not signing another pure goal scorer is biting us big time. All those shots were mostly square to Bowns he didn't really have much to do effort wise. We need to find a way to break out of our zone instead of holding the puck behind our net for extensive periods of time. Something in the system has to change. 100% agree, absolutely ridiculous and it can only be down to coaching
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Post by spik on Jan 31, 2016 0:30:32 GMT
Wasn't there but still am aware that any 'shots on goal' .....that would have entered the net but for the intervention of netminder or player ......count. Shot from point or crease area they did not go in. Poor shots or good defence?
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Post by Yotes on Jan 31, 2016 0:40:32 GMT
Wasn't there but still am aware that any 'shots on goal' .....that would have entered the net but for the intervention of netminder or player ......count. Shot from point or crease area they did not go in. Poor shots or good defence? My understanding, which could well be incorrect, is that it's only shots that would've gone in but for the intervention of the netminder that count as shots, or shots that do go in of course. Presumably because it's a netminding statistic. Blocked shots are counted as just that. Even a shot that hits the frame and stays out doesn't count, as I understand it.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 31, 2016 1:59:24 GMT
Wasn't there but still am aware that any 'shots on goal' .....that would have entered the net but for the intervention of netminder or player ......count. Shot from point or crease area they did not go in. Poor shots or good defence? My understanding, which could well be incorrect, is that it's only shots that would've gone in but for the intervention of the netminder that count as shots, or shots that do go in of course. Presumably because it's a netminding statistic. Blocked shots are counted as just that. Even a shot that hits the frame and stays out doesn't count, as I understand it. Indeed. Blocked shots don't (Shouldn't) count.
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Post by dexter on Jan 31, 2016 9:56:03 GMT
Not much to add to the above really. They defended well and limited our opportunity to get good shots on goal, something we could learn from as Wiikman definitely had to pull a few good saves out of the bag. I don't think Bowns was tested at all really last night, most of the shots were straight at him ands others never reached him. It's a massive worry that with all the offensive talent we have we couldn't get a single goal. As others have said we desperately need that extra D Man and a sniper.
It seems Panthers are all about saving money but it's so short sighted. Whatever it would have cost to get those extra two players in would have been dwarfed by the extra ticket sales they will now lose in the remaining league games. I would think attendances will now fall if there is nothing to play for.
Ho hum, looks like another year without a league title. Thanks Panthers management.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 10:15:23 GMT
It seems Panthers are all about saving money but it's so short sighted. Whatever it would have cost to get those extra two players in would have been dwarfed by the extra ticket sales they will now lose in the remaining league games. I would think attendances will now fall if there is nothing to play for. Ho hum, looks like another year without a league title. Thanks Panthers management. Very good post, Dexter. I for one will not be attending many more games this season now. The non season ticket regulars like myself have their reason to not attend. Short sighted & short minded management for sure. You reap what you sow.
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Post by BlogFromBlock15! on Jan 31, 2016 11:08:42 GMT
It seems Panthers are all about saving money but it's so short sighted. Whatever it would have cost to get those extra two players in would have been dwarfed by the extra ticket sales they will now lose in the remaining league games. I would think attendances will now fall if there is nothing to play for. Ho hum, looks like another year without a league title. Thanks Panthers management. Very good post, Dexter. I for one will not be attending many more games this season now. The non season ticket regulars like myself have their reason to not attend. Short sighted & short minded management for sure. You reap what you sow. There are occasions where I wish I didn't have a season ticket as nothing winds me up more than attending games and the team are only giving it 50% because to them the game is pointless. Sent from my Nexus 6 using proboards
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 31, 2016 11:59:27 GMT
More boo'ing at the end of the game last night too I could hear as we left.
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Post by wgray on Jan 31, 2016 12:51:39 GMT
To those who booed last night can I ask why? Was it to the players? The coaches? Management?
I understand it was a dissapointing result but the fact of it is we were out coached, the players didn't play poorly it was just that the plan we had was counteracted by the plan Cardiff had, to me if anything is to blame it is the coaching
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Post by iginla on Jan 31, 2016 12:53:49 GMT
Seemed obvious to me they had given up on the league last night,despite what the club "spokeswoman" will no doubt keep telling us incessantly over the next two or three weeks. After all,you have to keep the crowds rolling in !
Next game we come out properly fired up will be the cup semi first leg in Ice Sheffield.
League title screwed up yet again over spending a bit of money !!!!!
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Post by iginla on Jan 31, 2016 12:58:41 GMT
It's mainly the coaching and management Wgray. However,whilst some players are trying their hardest,there are quite a few others who are either not putting maximum effort in,or are just not living up to expectations.
For me,it's Corey plus penny pinching management that the boos are mainly aimed at and rightly so.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 31, 2016 12:59:23 GMT
To those who booed last night can I ask why? Was it to the players? The coaches? Management? I understand it was a dissapointing result but the fact of it is we were out coached, the players didn't play poorly it was just that the plan we had was counteracted by the plan Cardiff had, to me if anything is to blame it is the coaching I didn't boo personally, I didn't even think of it on the way out and I am way past the point anyway now but I suspect the boo's were for the entire organisation from the top down. Even the players looked annoyed and especially David Ling towards the end.
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Post by PantherTom on Jan 31, 2016 13:00:35 GMT
To those who booed last night can I ask why? Was it to the players? The coaches? Management? I understand it was a dissapointing result but the fact of it is we were out coached, the players didn't play poorly it was just that the plan we had was counteracted by the plan Cardiff had, to me if anything is to blame it is the coaching I didn't boo personally, I didn't even think of it on the way out and I am way past the point anyway now but I suspect the boo's were for the entire organisation from the top down. Even the players looked annoyed and especially David Ling towards the end. I just booed the whole organisation to be honest! And yeah ling looked fuming he shook hands about 100mph!
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Post by iginla on Jan 31, 2016 13:23:14 GMT
I don't know why Ling was looking so annoyed,he was one of the laziest last night !
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