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Post by shmyrohdear on Jan 11, 2016 15:19:22 GMT
All these "real fans" coming out of the woodwork all of a sudden. I've been born into the hockey tradition and spent all of my childhood at the old rink. Watching, playing, skating, even just hanging out. We've seen the bad times. The 7-0 thrashing at home to Steelers. Fighting for 5th place by the skin of our teeth for years on end. I'm not going. Am i not a "real fan"? How can you have the audacity to even post such mundane and senseless tripe to us and question our loyalties. Many on this forum are active within the fanbase and some have been since before i was born. "Real fans" would stop being used and ignored and want what's best for this team. Moran and Black alike have such an arrogant front towards the customers. Because that is all we are to them. Customers.
Are you getting your money's worth? Seeing Cardiff at the top and spending more on players to make their title dreams happen. 2000 average attendance. New arena will increase cost for their club as well. So what's our excuse? Use your heads, we are all about $$$ and not so much about what the fans, who line their pockets and fill their accounts want to see.
We need a massive philosophy change. Before anyone says he also funds Braehead, they are self sufficient and he will not be bearing over next year they aren't a concern to him now. So why are we skimping out on giving the fans and players and chance to stay in the race? People moaning about booing. They should damn well boo. They haven't spent years fueling money and passion into an organisation that doesn't care for nothing. We are "real fans" but we're sick and tired of the same old media spin. To quote someone on here 10 minutes doesn't solve 50 minutes of problems. We aren't playing good enough and management aren't doing enough. Simple as that. This is to send a message. This is how much we care about this club.
But you know, we're not real fans like you are we so our own feelings and opinions must not matter.
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Post by tootootrain on Jan 11, 2016 15:38:02 GMT
...New arena will increase cost for their club as well... No doubt one of our regular Devils fans can confirm but I believe the agreement in place for the new arena sees them getting free ice time.
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Post by shmyrohdear on Jan 11, 2016 16:06:54 GMT
...New arena will increase cost for their club as well... No doubt one of our regular Devils fans can confirm but I believe the agreement in place for the new arena sees them getting free ice time. Would love to know how the hell that's going to work, can't imagine them sticking to that when a new deal needs to be signed if that's indeed the case.
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Post by panthers4ever on Jan 11, 2016 16:26:24 GMT
2 x st holder not going
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 11, 2016 16:29:18 GMT
...New arena will increase cost for their club as well... No doubt one of our regular Devils fans can confirm but I believe the agreement in place for the new arena sees them getting free ice time. I understand that the Devils are actually part owners of the new place?
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Post by pantherman66 on Jan 11, 2016 16:46:24 GMT
Challenge Cup games are renowned for their lower attendances, so it will be hard to judge what sort of numbers have 'Boycotted' the game. If Gary Moran is aware of this 'Boycott', I am sure he will put out a false attendance figure to mask any effect this protest might have. I think the real figure of people attending, would have to be somewhere around 1,500-2,000 for it to possibly make the management take notice. Even then I doubt they would do anything. I will be attending the game, as I happen to enjoy a game of hockey.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 17:02:51 GMT
Now this is a fun thread..... Can't help but feel slightly responsible for it occurring. Fantastic.
Not an ST holder but I won't be attending this game.
For the record I think it's the correct kind of gesture & the only way the management will potentially take any notice. Today Cardiff signed another player for their title push, we are still running 5 dmen & have only just got a keeper in. Farcical.
There's no way we are giving this group of good players the best chance of winning.
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Post by Higgy on Jan 11, 2016 17:05:05 GMT
Same game last year saw a really low crowd if I remember correctly.
I am going but im already expecting to be bored,hope im wrong! I just feel wrong missing a home game I know I can get to.
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Post by Bolts on Jan 11, 2016 17:11:37 GMT
Same game last year saw a really low crowd if I remember correctly. I am going but im already expecting to be bored,hope im wrong! I just feel wrong missing a home game I know I can get to. Fair play! If I could afford it and had time I'd be going!
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Post by Bagheera on Jan 11, 2016 17:24:44 GMT
ST undecided. Feel like I dont want to go because for the first time in many many years watching Panthers I just feel meh. So frustrated at "the experts" not being able to see what average Joe fans like me can see in the stands around tactics etc.
Not a boycott on my part and I dont want to feel like this but im just so frustrated at the coaching more than anything.
The only frustration I have regards the handling of injury cover is the goalie situation. 1 place squad depth doesnt help. I tend to agree that Corey had his budget and chose to spend it on the way he did. Money on Lacho(a brit we expected not to have but took him when he decided to stay) who we just didn't need. The depth in the forward department means we dont need to cover every injury. As much as I am a Lawerence fan surely thst money would have been better spent on a quality Dman. Poor recruitment(Balance not personel in the import department) and budget management as opposed to lack of funds. As said in other threads. To much money wasted on average/poor brits we didnt need to carry which could have been spent on spare imports/injury cover.
If I were Mr Black I wouldn't give Corey any more money either. "You had your budget, you chose to spend it that way". My guess would be other coaches choose to handle their budgets differently and keep a bit back to see what they neef later in the season rather than the ownership just chucking more money in as they fancy. All other issues with Corey voiced in other threads. Poor Coaching & to me, poor budget management all on Coreys shoulders
I dont like Moran and would like to see him go sooner rather than later but don't think he is responsible for thet on ice shambles at minute.
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Post by Pies on Jan 11, 2016 17:34:10 GMT
I will be there.
What the Panthers mean to me is a chance to escape for a couple of hours from any real world worries - I am going to watch something that runs in my blood - 3 generations of my family go and I can't miss a home game because it's all I've known all my life. Do I think the management are great? Absolutely not. Do I think they've done good things? Yes. Is it time for changes? I don't know. What I do know is the guys in the ic need us to be 100% with them and that's what I'll do. But if people don't want to attend, I respect their choice. However, I am curious as to what the people who don't go will do when the semi final comes around if we get there with the same situation we're in now?
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Post by Dan on Jan 11, 2016 17:46:57 GMT
Think this is all a bit much for my 2p. Imagine back when we were REALLY crap.
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Post by ted logan on Jan 11, 2016 17:51:42 GMT
I am curious as to what the people who don't go will do when the semi final comes around if we get there with the same situation we're in now? Simples. I won't go. I've said that I refuse to part with any more money this season. I stand by that. To do anything else would be hypocritical.
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Post by Gawdonbennett on Jan 11, 2016 17:53:26 GMT
I won't be going simply because i can't afford to at the moment until my next pay day. Though saying that, i will be watching it with the family via a webcast if there is one available. They may be on a poor run of form, but i am more than happy to stick with the Panthers through and through Webcast? ? At Panthers?
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Post by Bagheera on Jan 11, 2016 17:55:40 GMT
Pies. You've pretty much described how ive always felt up to the last month. For whatever reason I've just snapped as far as watching the same mistakes again and again.
I certainly won't be boycotting any game any time soon. I've just lost that be there at all costs mentality towards a game I dont yet have a ticket to. Where Id normally pull every steing needed to be there. I just cant be bothered to do so.
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Post by Gawdonbennett on Jan 11, 2016 17:55:47 GMT
ST holders x 2 not going. I've decided that I'm paying out more money to the team until they prove they are worthy of it. Perhaps they can do a deal and drop the prices by 2/3rds and we all turn up in the third period........ when the team do!! Brilliant, great humour ?
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Post by Higgy on Jan 11, 2016 17:56:09 GMT
Think this is all a bit much for my 2p. Imagine back when we were REALLY crap. Yeah but there was much lower expectation then,we knew we wouldn't win the league against 1 million pounds spending Storm!
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Post by ted logan on Jan 11, 2016 17:56:38 GMT
Think this is all a bit much for my 2p. Imagine back when we were REALLY crap. When we were a new, yet to be established English team when the Scottish and North-East teams ruled? Or in the ISL era, when we were a low budget rink team? As a well established arena team, shouldn't we expect better? Shouldn't we be doing better? One title in the EIHL/NIC era? As opposed to 4 each for Sheffield and Coventry, 3 for Belfast.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 11, 2016 18:15:41 GMT
I will be there. What the Panthers mean to me is a chance to escape for a couple of hours from any real world worries - I am going to watch something that runs in my blood - 3 generations of my family go and I can't miss a home game because it's all I've known all my life. Do I think the management are great? Absolutely not. Do I think they've done good things? Yes. Is it time for changes? I don't know. What I do know is the guys in the ic need us to be 100% with them and that's what I'll do. But if people don't want to attend, I respect their choice. However, I am curious as to what the people who don't go will do when the semi final comes around if we get there with the same situation we're in now? Thing is Pies, people aren't really getting behind the team when we are there, certainly not 100%. We sit there seemingly stupefied as another match unfolds, for 50 minutes on Sunday you just had to look around. I'm not going to miss a game I've already committed to, but I simply don't much fancy committing to any more at this point (even with a 2 pound discount ). Whether that will extend to semi-finals, PO quarter-finals etc I don't know at the moment, maybe that's hypocritical, but in this moment I really don't want to sit through another exhibition of Neilson hockey. If he gets sacked before the game's played, I'll buy a ticket. But I reckon my money's fairly safe there. Think this is all a bit much for my 2p. Imagine back when we were REALLY crap. A few years back, when we'd properly ballsed it up by this time, we had people on here - and by no means just the usual types either - ready to renounce their season tickets etc if Moran & Neilson weren't sacked. We had a guy end up getting a phone call with Neil Black, if you remember, to discuss the problems with the club. A few people saying they can't be bothered to pay extra for a cup quarter final is quite a long way from that stage. Back then we did a cup double and everyone forgot about it, probably be the same again this year.
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Post by PantherG on Jan 11, 2016 18:21:59 GMT
ST holder, not going. Plus 2 more ST holders that attend games with me.
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Post by pantherman66 on Jan 11, 2016 18:30:36 GMT
It may well not happen, but it would be interesting to see the reaction on here. if we did win the league this year lol.
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Post by Bagheera on Jan 11, 2016 18:33:56 GMT
Id love it if we won the league this year. Said before. Id love nothing more than for Corey to ram my words down my throat. Don't confuse critisism of what we are whitnessing with what we want to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 18:53:47 GMT
2 X ST ticket holder going, bought my tickets during Sunday's game funnily enough. This may sound odd but how we're performing really doesn't affect whether I go to a game or not. Hockey is my release, my number 1 hobby. I go because I love the game. Sunday's game was dull as dishwater, but I still enjoyed watching it rather than sat at home watching Countryfile. I've been coming since the first game in the arena, and I will continue to come. I understand people's frustrations and I don't have a single issue with others choosing to not pay and that's the individuals choice, just likes its mine to pay. I'm happy with this years team and cannot name a single player I'd release (unlike the last 2 years). I'm unhappy at the management of our injuries this year, but I'll still be paying to be in the crowd, and going down to the pub quiz in a few weeks. Hopefully we can get 2 performances out of the bag this weekend and persuade a few more to pay for next Wednesday's game.
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Post by iginla on Jan 11, 2016 18:55:13 GMT
GM will have seen this planned boycott make no mistake about that. And what he will do,is ramp up the free ticket allocation to try to make sure it isn't noticed.
Banners are what we need,up your shirt away from the yellow police on the way in and then at the five minute mark out they should come. Get your cameras ready,then plaster the pics all over social media.
Make the club feel uncomfortable,get twittering,send it to Jamie and Freddie so Daddy will see it too,Simmsey won't resist a dig either so it will soon get around. Email your annoyance to the club or Neil Black,try get him on TCW (Jonno) he can only say no.
As for booing,I have no problem with it and i tell you what. It's happened twice this year and if I remember correctly,both times we came back to win,so it certainly had an effect.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 19:02:51 GMT
GM will have seen this planned boycott make no mistake about that. And what he will do,is ramp up the free ticket allocation to try to make sure it isn't noticed. Banners are what we need,up your shirt away from the yellow police on the way in and then at the five minute mark out they should come. Get your cameras ready,then plaster the pics all over social media. Make the club feel uncomfortable,get twittering,send it to Jamie and Freddie so Daddy will see it too,Simmsey won't resist a dig either so it will soon get around. Email your annoyance to the club or Neil Black,try get him on TCW (Jonno) he can only say no. As for booing,I have no problem with it and i tell you what. It's happened twice this year and if I remember correctly,both times we came back to win,so it certainly had an effect. That's not true!! Take Nye as a example
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