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Post by Bagheera on Dec 27, 2015 8:59:08 GMT
Whilst I don't find it to be a massive diiference maker I do see where Iginla is coming from. As a top end team playing a double header home and away against potential title rivals you are likely to accept that a split in points is o.k but also impertive that you dont lose out on points. Im sure any team goes in looking to take all 4 but in the back of the mind a 2 2 split in the minimum requirement. By playing away first you are giving the rival a better chance of picking up 2 points in that game. This then puts the team under more pressure to chase the minimum rather than being the team that already has the minimum in the bank and can relax a little more going into the away game knowing they have already achieved that minimum. I know many will say you approach every game the same but that just doesnt happen. As within a game, if you go behind your under a whole lot more pressure.
Do I think it's a big factor? No. But i'm sure sports Psychology will see some truth in it somewhere.
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Post by panthersdave on Dec 27, 2015 9:15:14 GMT
Imo this was all Hardy's fault The D was super tight last night.
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Post by panthersdave on Dec 27, 2015 9:16:16 GMT
Whilst I don't find it to be a massive diiference maker I do see where Iginla is coming from. As a top end team playing a double header home and away against potential title rivals you are likely to accept that a split in points is o.k but also impertive that you dont lose out on points. Im sure any team goes in looking to take all 4 but in the back of the mind a 2 2 split in the minimum requirement. By playing away first you are giving the rival a better chance of picking up 2 points in that game. This then puts the team under more pressure to chase the minimum rather than being the team that already has the minimum in the bank and can relax a little more going into the away game knowing they have already achieved that minimum. I know many will say you approach every game the same but that just doesnt happen. As within a game, if you go behind your under a whole lot more pressure. Do I think it's a big factor? No. But i'm sure sports Psychology will see some truth in it somewhere. I thought the games were meant to alternate each year?
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Post by Bagheera on Dec 27, 2015 9:51:12 GMT
They did for many years. Then suddenly its been in Sheffield for 3 years. Think somebody posted on here that the arena don't like having the boxing day game because people don't want to work and they have to pay bank holiday pay. Obv Shef arena are happy to have it. Not sure of the truth but thats what was stated.
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Post by shmyrohdear on Dec 27, 2015 10:23:40 GMT
Imo this was all Hardy's fault The D was super tight last night. Aside from the constant turn overs, getting their pockets picked behind their own net and just over all messing around yes they were..
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Post by panthersdave on Dec 27, 2015 10:29:03 GMT
The D was super tight last night. Aside from the constant turn overs, getting their pockets picked behind their own net and just over all messing around yes they were.. I suppose Hardy couldn't get his pocket picked behind the net when he was playing left wing all night. I guess I don't know what I'm talking about but the fact that Hardy has been gassed, did nothing defensively or offensively in his 10 games, had god awful +/- figures with us and since he left we are back at conceding 2 per game means nothing. After all they only got rid to, what was it? "Appease the nay Sayers"......whatever that means. I hope you got your Kyle Hardy picture laminated.
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Post by pantherdman on Dec 27, 2015 10:58:58 GMT
Guys the 50/50 of £7,509 is still unclaimed. Ticket number 218663 Anyone who was there might wanna double check. :-) Thanks. Check the bottom of the m&s bag, I'm sure it's there. ?
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Post by pantherdman on Dec 27, 2015 10:59:41 GMT
We are looking into that to make sure it's handled correctly. There are some rules under the gaming act we are checking. So I can't say at the minute. :-) Rule book ?
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Post by panthersdave on Dec 27, 2015 11:02:18 GMT
We are looking into that to make sure it's handled correctly. There are some rules under the gaming act we are checking. So I can't say at the minute. :-) Rule book ? I'm sure you know full well he is referring to gambling law here which is outside the remit of hockey
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Post by iginla on Dec 27, 2015 11:07:36 GMT
Spot on Bagheera.
You have summed up the point I was trying to make perfectly. Both teams would have been happy with a two point split before yesterday's game,however whilst they may well win today,huge pressure is now firmly on the Panthers to win the second game.
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Post by shmyrohdear on Dec 27, 2015 11:22:36 GMT
Aside from the constant turn overs, getting their pockets picked behind their own net and just over all messing around yes they were.. I suppose Hardy couldn't get his pocket picked behind the net when he was playing left wing all night. I guess I don't know what I'm talking about but the fact that Hardy has been gassed, did nothing defensively or offensively in his 10 games, had god awful +/- figures with us and since he left we are back at conceding 2 per game means nothing. After all they only got rid to, what was it? "Appease the nay Sayers"......whatever that means. I hope you got your Kyle Hardy picture laminated. Getting my Janssen one framed not splashing out on anything else I'm afraid. And left wing maybe, that was his job to be offensive and sit high, it's a forwards job to fill the gap but we've been through this before a couple of times now. Not saying Hardy wouldn't have had his pocket picked so well done for a pointless comment there but you can keep on reading that one stat instead of the few more that would say otherwise. I think we needed a guy of his mould last night we struggled to get out of our zone let alone even the neutral zone. Forwards were lazy again as well I'm not saying the loss was solely on the D. We were chipping pucks in deep and not even going to get them half the time. Lawrence had a good game i thought though. Hopefully we get ourselves pumped today we look so emotionless atm it's very boring
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Post by wgray on Dec 27, 2015 12:32:47 GMT
I suppose Hardy couldn't get his pocket picked behind the net when he was playing left wing all night. I guess I don't know what I'm talking about but the fact that Hardy has been gassed, did nothing defensively or offensively in his 10 games, had god awful +/- figures with us and since he left we are back at conceding 2 per game means nothing. After all they only got rid to, what was it? "Appease the nay Sayers"......whatever that means. I hope you got your Kyle Hardy picture laminated. Getting my Janssen one framed not splashing out on anything else I'm afraid. And left wing maybe, that was his job to be offensive and sit high, it's a forwards job to fill the gap but we've been through this before a couple of times now. Not saying Hardy wouldn't have had his pocket picked so well done for a pointless comment there but you can keep on reading that one stat instead of the few more that would say otherwise. I think we needed a guy of his mould last night we struggled to get out of our zone let alone even the neutral zone. Forwards were lazy again as well I'm not saying the loss was solely on the D. We were chipping pucks in deep and not even going to get them half the time. Lawrence had a good game i thought though. Hopefully we get ourselves pumped today we look so emotionless atm it's very boring Mosey transitioned from the D zone to the offensive zone multiple times last night, Mosey does it much quicker than Hardy as well and is more of a goal threat, I do agree with you about dumping the puck though, either the forwards are being lazy not chasing or it wasn't in the game plan and the D were dumping the puck to get rid rather than keeping calm and making a play, who knows what the answer is but something needs to change tonight
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Post by panthersdave on Dec 27, 2015 12:54:57 GMT
Getting my Janssen one framed not splashing out on anything else I'm afraid. And left wing maybe, that was his job to be offensive and sit high, it's a forwards job to fill the gap but we've been through this before a couple of times now. Not saying Hardy wouldn't have had his pocket picked so well done for a pointless comment there but you can keep on reading that one stat instead of the few more that would say otherwise. I think we needed a guy of his mould last night we struggled to get out of our zone let alone even the neutral zone. Forwards were lazy again as well I'm not saying the loss was solely on the D. We were chipping pucks in deep and not even going to get them half the time. Lawrence had a good game i thought though. Hopefully we get ourselves pumped today we look so emotionless atm it's very boring Mosey transitioned from the D zone to the offensive zone multiple times last night, Mosey does it much quicker than Hardy as well and is more of a goal threat, I do agree with you about dumping the puck though, either the forwards are being lazy not chasing or it wasn't in the game plan and the D were dumping the puck to get rid rather than keeping calm and making a play, who knows what the answer is but something needs to change tonight I think it will change tonight, Panthers will have to come out of their shell more tonight rather than the compact box we played last night, this trading off the goal threat that we undoubtably have.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 27, 2015 12:58:47 GMT
Mosey transitioned from the D zone to the offensive zone multiple times last night, Mosey does it much quicker than Hardy as well and is more of a goal threat, I do agree with you about dumping the puck though, either the forwards are being lazy not chasing or it wasn't in the game plan and the D were dumping the puck to get rid rather than keeping calm and making a play, who knows what the answer is but something needs to change tonight I think it will change tonight, Panthers will have to come out of their shell more tonight rather than the compact box we played last night, this trading off the goal threat that we undoubtably have. A lot of last night was about protecting Dan and if Wiikman is in the nets it will be a lot different I think. As a team they protect Dan very well but have a habit of leaving Wiikman wide open to the likes of Roy, Fretter and Nelson.
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Post by panthersdave on Dec 27, 2015 13:05:28 GMT
I think it will change tonight, Panthers will have to come out of their shell more tonight rather than the compact box we played last night, this trading off the goal threat that we undoubtably have. A lot of last night was about protecting Dan and if Wiikman is in the nets it will be a lot different I think. As a team they protect Dan very well but have a habit of leaving Wiikman wide open to the likes of Roy, Fretter and Nelson. Agreed, and they protected Dan very well last night. However Wiikman clearly isn't 100% do they may have to do a similar job tonight even if Wiikman plays
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 27, 2015 13:12:14 GMT
A lot of last night was about protecting Dan and if Wiikman is in the nets it will be a lot different I think. As a team they protect Dan very well but have a habit of leaving Wiikman wide open to the likes of Roy, Fretter and Nelson. Agreed, and they protected Dan very well last night. However Wiikman clearly isn't 100% do they may have to do a similar job tonight even if Wiikman plays Not sure he will but if he does I bet they don't.
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Post by panthersdave on Dec 27, 2015 13:31:42 GMT
Agreed, and they protected Dan very well last night. However Wiikman clearly isn't 100% do they may have to do a similar job tonight even if Wiikman plays Not sure he will but if he does I bet they don't. That's what worries me
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Post by jdizpt8 on Dec 28, 2015 10:58:55 GMT
Just watched the highlights from Boxing Day and it would appear that there's goal tender interference on the steelers second goal. Desbien skates across Green and hits his catcher and moves him away from the goal not giving Green the chance to make the save. Just something I saw
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Post by wgray on Dec 28, 2015 13:16:22 GMT
Just watched the highlights from Boxing Day and it would appear that there's goal tender interference on the steelers second goal. Desbien skates across Green and hits his catcher and moves him away from the goal not giving Green the chance to make the save. Just something I saw I can see the exact same thing, unfortunately Darnell, who is stood directly behind the goal, can't for some perculiar reason
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Post by panthers_nyr on Dec 28, 2015 13:26:43 GMT
Just watched the highlights from Boxing Day and it would appear that there's goal tender interference on the steelers second goal. Desbien skates across Green and hits his catcher and moves him away from the goal not giving Green the chance to make the save. Just something I saw I can see the exact same thing, unfortunately Darnell, who is stood directly behind the goal, can't for some perculiar reason Me and a few around me thought it was interference on the night but never saw a replay to confirm it.
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Post by GuinnessMan on Dec 28, 2015 13:42:59 GMT
First goal looks like the puck is heading parallel with the goal line, but comes off waughs stick to change it's angle.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Dec 28, 2015 14:31:48 GMT
I can see the exact same thing, unfortunately Darnell, who is stood directly behind the goal, can't for some perculiar reason Me and a few around me thought it was interference on the night but never saw a replay to confirm it. That's sport I guess, get some decisions and don't get others. It'll balance out over a season. And their first goal did take a little ping of the D mans stick and that got green which was a shame. He's done well in the games he's played this season.
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Post by pantherdman on Jan 2, 2016 15:28:44 GMT
Guys the 50/50 of £7,509 is still unclaimed. Ticket number 218663 Anyone who was there might wanna double check. :-) Thanks. Any news on this? Did someone claim it? Roll over? Or club just kept it?
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Post by panthersdave on Jan 2, 2016 15:49:06 GMT
Guys the 50/50 of £7,509 is still unclaimed. Ticket number 218663 Anyone who was there might wanna double check. :-) Thanks. Any news on this? Did someone claim it? Roll over? Or club just kept it? It was claimed
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Post by panthersdave on Jan 2, 2016 15:49:47 GMT
Guys the 50/50 of £7,509 is still unclaimed. Ticket number 218663 Anyone who was there might wanna double check. :-) Thanks. Any news on this? Did someone claim it? Roll over? Or club just kept it? It was claimed
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