|
Post by Mark Mac on Dec 26, 2015 18:16:31 GMT
Panthers lose. 2-1 to Steelers.
|
|
|
Post by allingtonskates on Dec 26, 2015 18:19:45 GMT
I don't know if it's because we are losing but it seems to be getting really boring to watch
|
|
|
Post by panthers4ever on Dec 26, 2015 18:20:39 GMT
Need to win tomorrow in reg time
|
|
|
Post by dill1015 on Dec 26, 2015 18:22:42 GMT
We need to get back to 4 point weekends we've dropped so many points in the last month. We've blown our whole point lead over the steelers. I think at one point we could have gone 12 points clear of them, we're now on the same points. Must win tomorrow.
|
|
|
Post by Mark Mac on Dec 26, 2015 18:31:23 GMT
I thought it was a close game. It is frustrating that we lost but I don't feel irritated at how we played like I have for a number of performances since the end of October. The first goal was an unlucky deflection off a dman's stick. Maybe Green should've have the post covered but I understand why he had moved over. For the second goal, well it was a powerplay goal. Maybe Wiikman would've been in better position for it, but then the guys in front need to do a better job. We hold the puck well in the offensive zone but we aren't all that good at using that possession. We were also unlucky at the end with the open net shot that, according to the commentators, was blocked by a diving Steeler. I felt our defence was a lot better - I didn't despair anywhere near as much as I have over previous games with our previously awful defence.
|
|
|
Post by cjmatt42 on Dec 26, 2015 18:32:13 GMT
Think it's make or break tomorrow, this team had fight and an ability to bounce back. We've not seen that since Edinburgh away mid November. Once we are behind we seem to lose our way now. Failing to back this squad financially with a replacement for Schultz and someone to help Miika the last 3 weeks has been key. 4 points from 14 is unacceptable for this club. Sheffield had 2 import net minders this week on their books and were able to replace one. We've entered a run of 5 games in 8 days knowing we have a fragile at best netminder. Unfortunately the attitudes of the two owners will decide the outcome of our respective league positions and when it comes to that we have no chance...
|
|
Mark
Randall Weber
Experience has taught me that when it really matters the only person you can rely on is yourself.
Posts: 4,621
|
Post by Mark on Dec 26, 2015 18:38:51 GMT
Think it's make or break tomorrow, this team had fight and an ability to bounce back. We've not seen that since Edinburgh away mid November. Once we are behind we seem to lose our way now. Failing to back this squad financially with a replacement for Schultz and someone to help Miika the last 3 weeks has been key. 4 points from 14 is unacceptable for this club. Sheffield had 2 import net minders this week on their books and were able to replace one. We've entered a run of 5 games in 8 days knowing we have a fragile at best netminder. Unfortunately the attitudes of the two owners will decide the outcome of our respective league positions and when it comes to that we have no chance... Just about sums up the situation. Off ice the Panthers have been wanting from day one this season. When the league is so tight it seems incredible that we have been so reticent to bring in any cover at all. Unfortunately profit is king at the Panthers and I'm guessing the management see this weekend as a success based in the ringing at the tills. Shame really.
|
|
|
Post by ted logan on Dec 26, 2015 18:43:14 GMT
Failing to back this squad financially with a replacement for Schultz and someone to help Miika the last 3 weeks has been key. 4 points from 14 is unacceptable for this club. Sheffield had 2 import net minders this week on their books and were able to replace one. We've entered a run of 5 games in 8 days knowing we have a fragile at best netminder. Unfortunately the attitudes of the two owners will decide the outcome of our respective league positions and when it comes to that we have no chance... This. Absolutely spot on.
|
|
|
Post by PantherB on Dec 26, 2015 19:10:23 GMT
Failing to back this squad financially with a replacement for Schultz and someone to help Miika the last 3 weeks has been key. 4 points from 14 is unacceptable for this club. Sheffield had 2 import net minders this week on their books and were able to replace one. We've entered a run of 5 games in 8 days knowing we have a fragile at best netminder. Unfortunately the attitudes of the two owners will decide the outcome of our respective league positions and when it comes to that we have no chance... This. Absolutely spot on. Slight muscle injuries aren't enough to warrent forking out money on a new/temp goalie, if North American, by the time the Visa is actually sorted Wiikman would be fully fit, and as we've heard from all clubs so far, it's been a difficult season in finding the right players, obviously goalie's don't need to have the same qualities as skaters but there aren't many out there who are currently free agents. Over the last couple of weeks, Wiikman has had a fever, the flu, some kind of imune system related illness, and just like a slight muscle injury, it's not enough to warrant bringing in someone else. Green is more than capable, he let in 2 tonight against a team with quality offensive players such as Roy. He's not the 'oh no, here comes a 10 goal defeat' goalie a lot of people expect. Finally, Corey has already explained why he hasn't/is reluctant to bring in temps. Nothing to do with budgets and not being allowed to. He's said he wants to find the right player and won't hire the next person to pop up in his emails. Kyle Hardy, wasn't brilliant and things seemed to go a bit wrong when he turned up, Corey got rid, if we bring in another player like that until we have injured players back then think of what the consequences could be, it's not even like we're slipping away down the table, we've dropped points, yes, but we're 3 points behind Cardiff with 3 games in hand, Steelers on the same points and i believe we have a game in hand over them? If Cardiff win tonight, it's a 5 point gap. 3 wins from our games in hand and we're back at the top, not by much but we're back where we were. Once Schultz, Moran and Wiikman are all back up and running to the best of their abilities again we'll be, or should at least, be looking at the team we saw prior to the late November road games.
|
|
|
Post by wgray on Dec 26, 2015 19:11:56 GMT
Our failure to put chances away cost us the game tonight, Steelers weren't better than us one single bit, Lacho missed a sitter at the back stick, we hit the cross bar, Kolnik failed to put it away on the PP, we were hooked at the back stick and a penalty was called, at the end a steeler player blocked an open net chance that looked to be a sure goal, we just didn't have the rub of the green, the only issue I could see tonight was the fact that Neilson was switching 2 of our lines constantly, it's no way to create chemistry
|
|
|
Post by dill1015 on Dec 26, 2015 19:26:22 GMT
Our failure to put chances away cost us the game tonight, Steelers weren't better than us one single bit, Lacho missed a sitter at the back stick, we hit the cross bar, Kolnik failed to put it away on the PP, we were hooked at the back stick and a penalty was called, at the end a steeler player blocked an open net chance that looked to be a sure goal, we just didn't have the rub of the green, the only issue I could see tonight was the fact that Neilson was switching 2 of our lines constantly, it's no way to create chemistry But hasnt the been the story of the last 2 months? Hitting bars, hair width wide etc, etc... 1 game you call unlucky but over the length of time this has been happening that excuse doesnt wash. There's a common denominator here. We simply dont create enough clear cut chances. Ive seen us camped in the opposition zone so many times recently but we cant make that killer pass. For me there isnt enough moment up front. Just watch the guys off the puck, they're not getting in space and pulling defenders out. Teams are just sitting in their crease and we cant break that down. This is a results based bussiness and our results over the last 2 month speak for themselves. Ive really lost faith in this team.
|
|
|
Post by cjmatt42 on Dec 26, 2015 19:50:01 GMT
Our failure to put chances away cost us the game tonight, Steelers weren't better than us one single bit, Lacho missed a sitter at the back stick, we hit the cross bar, Kolnik failed to put it away on the PP, we were hooked at the back stick and a penalty was called, at the end a steeler player blocked an open net chance that looked to be a sure goal, we just didn't have the rub of the green, the only issue I could see tonight was the fact that Neilson was switching 2 of our lines constantly, it's no way to create chemistry But hasnt the been the story of the last 2 months? Hitting bars, hair width wide etc, etc... 1 game you call unlucky but over the length of time this has been happening that excuse doesnt wash. There's a common denominator here. We simply dont create enough clear cut chances. Ive seen us camped in the opposition zone so many times recently but we cant make that killer pass. For me there isnt enough moment up front. Just watch the guys off the puck, they're not getting in space and pulling defenders out. Teams are just sitting in their crease and we cant break that down. This is a results based bussiness and our results over the last 2 month speak for themselves. Ive really lost faith in this team. Spot on, a month without our best playmaker (Moran) and our most Spontaneous player (Schultz) has meant goal scoring chances are coming more by luck than judgement. The games missed by Schultz has now reached 16 and sounds like with the hectic schedule will get to 18/19. He was comfortably scoring above a point a game and those points have simply been lost over the last 2 months. While in most circumstances I'd agree with not rushing to get coverage it was clear from the outset Schultz was a key player and he was going to be missing for a large proportion of the season. Lawrence went into Sheffield to cover Fretter within a couple of days more a less at a point a game over that spell. Likewise with Wiikman, I understand that it was a tough call but the schedule should have made it a no brainer. Even if we hadn't made the decision for Scotland I think this is really poor management not to get coverage for the muscle strain. Even a slight strain they should have been factoring in him being less than 100% for at least 2 weeks. Given the high volume of games that was always going to be 7 matches. Too much of the season to just throw down the drain. I appreciate that Green isn't a guaranteed defeat but simple statistics say it's unlikely against the top teams. In all the years I've watched british hockey only Murphy has even won a title i.e. been consistently good enough even night and that is behind a D built to protect him. Our D certainly isn't built to protect an average at best net minder. While once we get Wiikman, Schultz and Moran back fit I expect us to be better I'd expect us to be out the race by then. On current form with current roster available I expect 2 wins tops out the 4 games between now and next Saturday night. That probably only leaves us 3 or 4 defeats in 3 months. Just done a quick check and by my reckoning we have only iced 12 imports in 7 out of 26 league games and have yet to ice 13. I appreciate we have extra depth with the brits but if you look at their output as a group compared to other teams smaller brit packs I don't think we are getting anything extra in terms of goal scoring potential.
|
|
|
Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 26, 2015 19:56:02 GMT
Some good spells tonight and a lot of pressure at the end but another loss.
|
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,484
|
Post by iginla on Dec 26, 2015 20:52:17 GMT
This playing away in Sheffield on Boxing Day every year is a real good idea isn't it.........Now who is all the pressure on tomorrow,Panthers or Steelers ? Sheffield have their nice two home points safely tucked away now,whilst Panthers just have to win tomorrow's game now.
Still never mind,at least some fans enjoy it that way round !!!!!
As for tonight's game,played fairly well,but luck was not on our side for the first,not clearing the D zone again cost us the 2nd goal and Panthers just don't create anywhere near enough clear cut chances. Even when they do create,they don't bury enough of them.
|
|
BigLad
David Clarke
Threads: @AntMJ11
Posts: 3,593
|
Post by BigLad on Dec 26, 2015 20:56:08 GMT
I rate Green more than I do Pinc tbh. He's not the reason we lost tonight. And I couldn't give a monkeys about being in Sheffield on Boxing Day as there's no public transport anyway. Would rather us play the following day when fans can get to and from the game easily. Sheffield is different in this regard as fans have pretty much no choice but to drive there. Oh and Iggy, aren't you always bleating about Panthers playing the 2nd leg of 2-leg games at home. Make your mind up!
|
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,484
|
Post by iginla on Dec 26, 2015 21:10:15 GMT
I am indeed Big Lad and for a reason. But in case you hadn't noticed......the two Xmas Steelers games are NOT played on aggregate score,so that blows your little dig doesn't it !!!!!!!
|
|
|
Post by Nemesis on Dec 26, 2015 21:52:08 GMT
Guys the 50/50 of £7,509 is still unclaimed. Ticket number 218663 Anyone who was there might wanna double check. :-) Thanks.
|
|
Yotes
Forum Admin
Posts: 16,625
|
Post by Yotes on Dec 26, 2015 22:32:23 GMT
Guys the 50/50 of £7,509 is still unclaimed. Ticket number 218663 Anyone who was there might wanna double check. :-) Thanks. I think Iggy has 218662 and 218664...
|
|
|
Post by panthersnation on Dec 26, 2015 23:18:16 GMT
Guys the 50/50 of £7,509 is still unclaimed. Ticket number 218663 Anyone who was there might wanna double check. :-) Thanks. Out of interest what happens if it's not claimed?
|
|
|
Post by Nemesis on Dec 26, 2015 23:47:53 GMT
We are looking into that to make sure it's handled correctly. There are some rules under the gaming act we are checking. So I can't say at the minute. :-)
|
|
Ghost
Matt Myers
Posts: 1,698
|
Post by Ghost on Dec 26, 2015 23:48:49 GMT
Guys the 50/50 of £7,509 is still unclaimed. Ticket number 218663 Anyone who was there might wanna double check. :-) Thanks. Out of interest what happens if it's not claimed? How do you think Simms affords all that KFC?
|
|
|
Post by shmyrohdear on Dec 26, 2015 23:58:29 GMT
Imo this was all Hardy's fault
|
|
BigLad
David Clarke
Threads: @AntMJ11
Posts: 3,593
|
Post by BigLad on Dec 27, 2015 0:28:03 GMT
I am indeed Big Lad and for a reason. But in case you hadn't noticed......the two Xmas Steelers games are NOT played on aggregate score,so that blows your little dig doesn't it !!!!!!! It wasn't a dig, I was poking fun. I just don't get what advantage Shuff have by playing Boxing Day instead of the 27th? It makes no difference!
|
|
Shorty
Paul Adey
Still here for Private Messages
Posts: 6,636
|
Post by Shorty on Dec 27, 2015 4:06:22 GMT
I am indeed Big Lad and for a reason. But in case you hadn't noticed......the two Xmas Steelers games are NOT played on aggregate score,so that blows your little dig doesn't it !!!!!!! It wasn't a dig, I was poking fun. I just don't get what advantage Shuff have by playing Boxing Day instead of the 27th? It makes no difference! It doesn't really. If it did it would mean every Saturday we play away followed by a Sunday at home we would be disadvantaged if we lost the first game.
|
|
moose
Jade Galbraith
Posts: 146
|
Post by moose on Dec 27, 2015 8:24:10 GMT
Regardless of the result last night, how good would it be if all 10 teams in the league played like that every night in arenas as full?
|
|