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Post by Rob Scott on May 28, 2014 14:34:44 GMT
Found this bit about MLP from October 2013.
With almost as many surgeries as games played in the last year, Maxime Langelier-Parent is focusing on the things he can change.
The Florida Everblades forward, sent down from the Syracuse Crunch Wednesday, was held to three games with the ECHL Everblades last year after undergoing surgeries on his hip and lower back. Despite signing AHL pacts with the Crunch in 2012 and 2013, the Montreal native is still waiting to make his American league debut.
"It's not something I control," Langelier-Parent said after practicing with the Crunch Tuesday. "So I'm just trying to do the best I can with the stuff I can control -- working out in the gym and on the ice, and just getting used to the pro hockey lifestyle."
But Langelier-Parent’s first season of professional hockey didn’t go as planned. He scored in his only game played with Florida in October, and after rehabbing from a surgery, tallied a goal and an assist in two games in February.
"I'd say it was frustrating," Langelier-Parent said. "You work so hard, and when it was my (last) college year, I worked hard to get a shot playing pro hockey. The first season you expect to learn a lot, most of the first year is learning and trying to make your name and get ice time. But I ended up in the hospital with surgeries and rehab the whole year. It was frustrating to see hockey and not be able to play, and wait and wait."
Langelier-Parent earned his shot with the Tampa Bay Lightning organization by posting 18 points in 26 games during his final year at McGill University, the alma mater of then Lightning coach Guy Boucher and assistant Marty Raymond. Both are now out of the organization. An assistant captain, Langelier-Parent, along with his brother Guillame, won the first CIS University Cup for the Redmen in 133 years.
"Having such a good team was good for the exposure, in terms of recruiters coming to see you and teams noticing what we were doing," Langelier-Parent said.
With a lot of organizational depth at forward, Crunch coach Rob Zettler had a hard time fitting Langelier-Parent into his lineup, and scratched him in each of Syracuse’s first three games this season.
"We'll see what happens here; he's a centerman and a penalty killer just getting his feet under him again," Zettler said Tuesday. "We've got a lot of bodies here right now, so that's been the hard part as far as him getting in the lineup."
Although Langelier-Parent didn’t get into a game with the Crunch, Zettler was impressed by his work ethic.
"He's worked his tail off, and keeps himself in unbelievable shape," Zettler said. "So I've got no concerns there, and he'll get his opportunity."
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Post by Rob Scott on May 28, 2014 14:50:35 GMT
A couple of little bits on Mosey.
Evan was one of our fastest players and hardest-hitting players all season.
Senior Evan Mosey got off to a brutal start last season, accumulating a -5 rating after his team's first seven even strength goals, but rebounded to finish the year as one of two Mavericks without a negative +/- rating.
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Post by panthertom93 on May 28, 2014 16:00:48 GMT
Why won't Corey listen and sign good players! It's almost as if he thinks he knows better than us...
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Post by Jasper on May 28, 2014 18:13:52 GMT
A couple of decent signings imo esp as one is duel national. Both are mid twenties so should be primed. 3rd line is complete, lets hope for some flair and goal scoring from a couple of ex nhl/ ahlers. Who are you and what have you done with pantherdman?
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Post by cooperphil156 on May 28, 2014 18:17:22 GMT
Well I reckon Maxime Langelier-Parent. should be good. I cannot pronounce his name and those guys are usually good hockey players. For example is it Parent as in the English or "Paron" as I think it would be in French. Perhaps as good a way of judging him as any other at this stage!
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Post by nate24 on May 28, 2014 18:29:01 GMT
Corey could sign the Chicago Blackhawks first lien and some wouldn't be happy. Screw the negativity on this forum!! Luckily it doesn't seem to reflect on attitudes on game night as most the crowd aren't tainted by this crap every time we sign someone.
You only sing when your winning! And even that's a bloody push!
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Post by Shorty on May 28, 2014 18:53:27 GMT
I think Bruce Richardson had a hand in us getting Parent.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 18:59:35 GMT
I'll judge when I see them in action..... Novel approach eh?
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Post by cooperphil156 on May 28, 2014 19:07:32 GMT
I think Bruce Richardson had a hand in us getting Parent. But can he play and skate as well as fight?
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Post by nate24 on May 28, 2014 19:16:45 GMT
I'll judge when I see them in action..... Novel approach eh? Wow! That is novel. I hope it catches on!!!
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Post by oldman on May 28, 2014 19:24:24 GMT
be nice if just once the usual suspects give them a chance to step on our ice before they write them off.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 19:32:39 GMT
I'll judge when I see them in action..... Novel approach eh? Wow! That is novel. I hope it catches on!!! Thought you would approve yeah.
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Post by dp on May 28, 2014 19:43:18 GMT
Why doesn't anyone who can't handle negative comments about signings just stay clear of the forum, or at least the signings threads, until the start of the season?
It's the off-season, we've just signed some new players who are going to shape how successful we are next season.
Sometimes we've got an opinion of a player based on seeing them play; but often we don't, and all we've got to go on is stats.
Yes, OBVIOUSLY Corey has seen/heard something which has made him sign them. Yes OBVIOUSLY we're working to a budget, be that big or small, and that will have an influence on who we sign. Yes, OBVIOUSLY these are just two pieces in the full squad, and we don't know what's coming next.
But does that mean for every signing we should shrug our shoulders and ignore the little information we have, just say "we'll have to trust Corey" and believe the press release that comes out with a player signing? (or are positive comments still allowed?? I'm not sure anymore)
We all know that sometimes players with weaker resumes turn out to be really good, and the other way round, but GOOD GRIEF, wouldn't The Cage be a (even more) boring place if everybody just came on and said "let's trust Corey" or "let's wait until we've got a full roster" or "let's wait until Christmas" after every signing??! There would be no discussion about anything at all ever.
PLEASE LET PEOPLE HAVE AN OPINION!!!! And that includes the belittling of fans having opinions from the "official" channels.
Funnily enough the people who moan about people using stats to form an opinion don't seem so bothered when people use stats to show that someone might be good. And anybody worried about the players reading all this terribly nasty negativity should compare the forum to what professionals from other sports and hockey in other countries have to put up with. No front (or even back) page headlines in national newspapers for them over here.
No wonder hardly anybody posts on here anymore.
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Post by cooperphil156 on May 28, 2014 19:54:42 GMT
Why doesn't anyone who can't handle negative comments about signings just stay clear of the forum, or at least the signings threads, until the start of the season? It's the off-season, we've just signed some new players who are going to shape how successful we are next season. Sometimes we've got an opinion of a player based on seeing them play; but often we don't, and all we've got to go on is stats. Yes, OBVIOUSLY Corey has seen/heard something which has made him sign them. Yes OBVIOUSLY we're working to a budget, be that big or small, and that will have an influence on who we sign. Yes, OBVIOUSLY these are just two pieces in the full squad, and we don't know what's coming next. But does that mean for every signing we should shrug our shoulders and ignore the little information we have, just say "we'll have to trust Corey" and believe the press release that comes out with a player signing? (or are positive comments still allowed?? I'm not sure anymore) We all know that sometimes players with weaker resumes turn out to be really good, and the other way round, but GOOD GRIEF, wouldn't The Cage be a (even more) boring place if everybody just came on and said "let's trust Corey" or "let's wait until we've got a full roster" or "let's wait until Christmas" after every signing??! There would be no discussion about anything at all ever. PLEASE LET PEOPLE HAVE AN OPINION!!!! And that includes the belittling of fans having opinions from the "official" channels. Funnily enough the people who moan about people using stats to form an opinion don't seem so bothered when people use stats to show that someone might be good. And anybody worried about the players reading all this terribly nasty negativity should compare the forum to what professionals from other sports and hockey in other countries have to put up with. No front (or even back) page headlines in national newspapers for them over here. No wonder hardly anybody posts on here anymore.
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Post by cooperphil156 on May 28, 2014 20:02:03 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that this was an open forum where people were allowed to express their opinions and challenge others if they thought that they weren't valid. Its not a question of rubber stamping everything CN does - he does get some wrong, but there seems from some to be an instant dismissal in some cases, when they have less information that CN has, who has access to people close to the coalface, whom he trusts. He didnt seem to do badly recruiting the season before last. No doubt at this stage of the proceedings he has more opportunity to test the water thoroughly, than he will have mid season. With regard to posts, I think extended use of twitter has something to do with that.
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Post by dp on May 28, 2014 20:08:11 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that this was an open forum where people were allowed to express their opinions and challenge others if they thought that they weren't valid. Its not a question of rubber stamping everything CN does - he does get some wrong, but there seems from some to be an instant dismissal in some cases, when they have less information that CN has, who has access to people close to the coalface, whom he trusts. He didnt seem to do badly recruiting the season before last. No doubt at this stage of the proceedings he has more opportunity to test the water thoroughly, than he will have mid season. With regard to posts, I think extended use of twitter has something to do with that. That's exactly my point. People should be allowed to express an opinion even if it doesn't agree with Corey. As I say, otherwise what's the point in the forum?? And in the Grand Slam season Corey actually got his recruitment COMPLETELY wrong. The start of the season was a complete mess until he made some changes.
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Post by cooperphil156 on May 28, 2014 20:21:29 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that this was an open forum where people were allowed to express their opinions and challenge others if they thought that they weren't valid. Its not a question of rubber stamping everything CN does - he does get some wrong, but there seems from some to be an instant dismissal in some cases, when they have less information that CN has, who has access to people close to the coalface, whom he trusts. He didnt seem to do badly recruiting the season before last. No doubt at this stage of the proceedings he has more opportunity to test the water thoroughly, than he will have mid season. With regard to posts, I think extended use of twitter has something to do with that. That's exactly my point. People should be allowed to express an opinion even if it doesn't agree with Corey. As I say, otherwise what's the point in the forum?? And in the Grand Slam season Corey actually got his recruitment COMPLETELY wrong. The start of the season was a complete mess until he made some changes. Or he got the chance over a few weeks to work with the squad and get things right.
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Post by nate24 on May 28, 2014 21:32:39 GMT
I wouldn't mind but it's all the time. I will stead clear. This community is on a downward spiral.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 21:51:20 GMT
No problem speculating on the merits of players..... It's the writing them off as cheap signings and the overall glum impression that tickles me.
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Post by spik on May 28, 2014 23:10:53 GMT
No problem speculating on the merits of players..... It's the writing them off as cheap signings and the overall glum impression that tickles me. Exactly...,,we are in a bid yo do well (I assume) in this CHL.So why would we try and take a bare minimum of strength. Would like to believe he (Corey) knows what he is doing. Lets see what else comes out the woodwork and remember what we had to say here come seasons start.
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Post by PantherTom on May 29, 2014 7:13:04 GMT
Leagues gone cups gone playoffs gone! Pointless being in the CHL! Selling my season ticket! What a joke.........
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Post by Doom on May 29, 2014 7:34:00 GMT
Most supporters like to be blown away by the stats when they click on a link to a new player and neither of these two do that. Whilst Parent hasn't put up good numbers, the fact he's straight out of the AHL suggests to me he'll be a good player in our league. He's probably more a two way player in the mould of a Steve Goertzen, but that's not such a bad thing as long as you have couple of high scoring imports to complement him. Mosey looks more of a risk, a bit like Rod Sarich for us, but for different reasons. I would think he'll be relatively cheap so his signing will probably give Corey the financial muscle elsewhere on the roster. I think it's difficult to judge these two signing until you see what Corey has in mind with the rest of the squad. Regards Doom
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Post by Yotes on May 29, 2014 10:02:45 GMT
The problem is always that, for new signings, stats is all we've got. The world of Euro and NA minor league/college hockey is, I would suggest, largely a mystery to the vast majority of us. There's not a huge amount of movement between teams of players we have first hand experience of. Saying that I tend to agree with dp, if we just had "We've signed these two. No comment until Christmas" it would be pretty dull. People should be allowed to express their opinion whatever it is, based on whatever we've got to go on. It may turn out to be wrong of course and I'm sure they still hope for the best, even if they don't expect it. While I think some of those opinions are expressed in a rather OTT manner, some of the responses they generate are too.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 11:09:00 GMT
Reminds me so much of when Matt Francis first signed, a very similar reaction.
One straight out of the AHL, another with 4 seasons in the top level of college hockey. I think they'll be more than capable in the Elite League. Both good signings for me.
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Post by Rob Scott on May 29, 2014 11:27:36 GMT
Reminds me so much of when Matt Francis first signed, a very similar reaction. One straight out of the AHL, another with 4 seasons in the top level of college hockey. I think they'll be more than capable in the Elite League. Both good signings for me. Just for reference here is the Francis thread.
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