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Post by rangers on Mar 9, 2011 11:03:43 GMT
Has done an OK job at Peterborough, but hardly set the league alight with one of the most talented squads in the league - Ok they have had financial problems, injury problems and a few probs in the dressing room, but he needs a couple more years experience I think.
Saying all that he probably would be a step forward from the idiot you have as coach at the moment.
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 9, 2011 11:05:11 GMT
Jez, may as well keep Strachs if these are the only candidates.
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Post by LUFC on Mar 9, 2011 17:49:03 GMT
Didn't Sean McAslan want to get into coaching?
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Post by pingchowchi on Mar 10, 2011 13:10:44 GMT
I suspect that *if* there is a players wage cap next season, that we will have a player-coach as that would be one way to pay them twice.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Mar 10, 2011 20:17:23 GMT
It used to be the case that only half of a player coaces wages would count towards the cap but I'm pretty certain that loophole was closed several seasons ago.
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Post by pantherinmanc on Mar 10, 2011 22:51:27 GMT
It used to be the case that only half of a player coaces wages would count towards the cap but I'm pretty certain that loophole was closed several seasons ago. when I spoke to NB he said it was a good way of 'luring star names to coach' because you can 'effectively pay them twice'. Then again you can't contribute toward something that doesn't exist!
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 13, 2011 11:27:02 GMT
I think it's ridiculous that teams are starting to re-sign players & staff, with no idea what the rules will be next year. Will there be a cap? Will the import limit be cut? Are we to assume it will be the same as this year? Any chance of a statement from the last minute larry league?? These are serious questions which need answering before you can even contemplate putting a roster together. what a Joke.
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Post by Shaggy on Mar 13, 2011 11:43:45 GMT
I think it's ridiculous that teams are starting to re-sign players & staff, with no idea what the rules will be next year. Will there be a cap? Will the import limit be cut? Are we to assume it will be the same as this year? Any chance of a statement from the last minute larry league?? These are serious questions which need answering before you can even contemplate putting a roster together. what a Joke. Why is it ridiculous? Every team is going to need a coach... that's not going to change, regardless of what the import limit or if there's a wage cap. And as for players... why not sign key players as soon as possible? If the import limit does drop to 10 as suspected, then that's still 10 imports to sign... the difference will only start to show in the lower-ranking players. And, of course, the Brits will be wanted anyway - sign 'em up! Is there going to be a wage cap? And one that is actually enforced? No idea... but even if there is, it's highly unlikely that it will be brought down very low... meaning that total team spend isn't likely to shrink an awful lot. Cutting one import (and all of his wages, accomodation etc) will probably account for a noticeable amount of that. Finalising a team now would be insane, but starting the re-signing process... no, that makes sense.
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 13, 2011 11:58:39 GMT
Errrm..Long term planning? that seems to be an incomprehensible idea in this league.
if there is a strict wage cap, that is going to effect how much an owner will pay a coach, it my even affect whether they get a player coach.
Sign up all the key players then realize we need to get extra Brits in but can't afford to pay them enough inflated wages and stay under the cap = end up with poor quality Brits and no chance of the league once again.
Who knows what other crack pot ideas they'll bring in. If they are going to move the goal posts they need to give at least a years notice IMO.
Any organization worth it's salt will be planning for next season now, but how can they??
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Post by Shaggy on Mar 13, 2011 12:58:24 GMT
If the changes were going to be drastic, I'd agree with you... but can you really see them slashing the (supposed) wage cap by an enormous amount? I can't. The core players will still be needed... I'd have thought that it would just be in the lower-ranked players that they'd be making adjustments. And if the import limit does drop... then you lose the wage bill of one of the lesser imports, replace him on the roster with a young Brit (who isn't likely to cost much at all) - or even better, a couple of young Brits, and make a few other adjustments here or there where needed.
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Post by heja on Mar 13, 2011 13:21:57 GMT
Errrm..Long term planning? that seems to be an incomprehensible idea in this league. if there is a strict wage cap, that is going to effect how much an owner will pay a coach, it my even affect whether they get a player coach. Sign up all the key players then realize we need to get extra Brits in but can't afford to pay them enough inflated wages and stay under the cap = end up with poor quality Brits and no chance of the league once again. Who knows what other crack pot ideas they'll bring in. If they are going to move the goal posts they need to give at least a years notice IMO. Any organization worth it's salt will be planning for next season now, but how can they?? My guess the teams already know exactly what is going to be happening next season. What I do think the teams and league need to do is tell all the fans what is happening before the early bird season tickets prices end so that people can decide if its worth it.
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 13, 2011 13:31:46 GMT
Are season ticket app forms out yet?
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Post by samjohnson345 on Mar 13, 2011 20:29:21 GMT
it annoys me that people seem anti rick on other posts especially about next year. i feel that since he's been here and stamped his ideas down, we have been more gritty and determined, and battled better thus producing better results, i think he knows how to play in smaller and different rinks, and feel that he is a good reason as to why we have generally played better since hes come in. cut him some slack and i feel that if he gets the job he will be able to mould his own team and really enforce his ideas on his players. he has good experience and links in the game and i believe that even though we may not destroy teams 10 + every week, we will be harder to beat and a tougher team to play no matter what the score. I say give him a chance.
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Post by avery16 on Mar 13, 2011 20:33:46 GMT
I agree that he has helped strengthen our defence, however he has done a good job of doing this as assistant coach-so why not keep him there? I don't think he has enough ideas or creativity to be our main coach, but has enough experience to assist and make the team even stronger...two sets of eyes is always better than one!
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Post by samjohnson345 on Mar 13, 2011 20:37:04 GMT
do you not think that he has been effectively the main coach the whole time anyway because corey is playing? if thats the case then he should be the main coach. the best way to build a successful team is from the back - look at man utd etc. corey builds from the front and works back. give rick the chance and he will build the successful (not just talented) team that we have wanted, from the back, and i believe the change will be noticed!
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Mar 14, 2011 0:35:48 GMT
I like Strachan and maye he deserves a chance but I just can't get the memory of his boring Stingray teams out of my head!
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Post by NottinghamMatt on Mar 14, 2011 7:00:27 GMT
What about a Director of Hockey type role with a Player Coach under him?
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Post by oldman on Mar 15, 2011 19:37:49 GMT
I like Strachan and maye he deserves a chance but I just can't get the memory of his boring Stingray teams out of my head! I would accept boring hockey if it brought the title with it next season!
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Mar 16, 2011 0:19:49 GMT
I wouldn't. I'd more than happily go at the end of the season to see us lift the trophy but I wouldn't pay sixteen quid a ticket to be bored out of my brain and watch our boys get knocked around there own rink.
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Post by blueline on Mar 16, 2011 9:19:34 GMT
I wouldn't. I'd more than happily go at the end of the season to see us lift the trophy but I wouldn't pay sixteen quid a ticket to be bored out of my brain and watch our boys get knocked around there own rink. Fully agree - I'd rather watch exciting hockey and us not win the league than dull hockey where I am not kept entertained.... bit like this season where we have not been exciting AND we haven't been at the races where the league is concerned.
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 16, 2011 9:22:05 GMT
I want the league at all costs. I will sit through boreing hockey to achieve it. Build a solid foundation, get that right, then we can think about sexy hockey.
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Post by Warren on Mar 16, 2011 9:28:15 GMT
For 1 season I would put up with it. just to quieten those up the road.
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Post by Rob Scott on Mar 16, 2011 9:29:46 GMT
Exactly. We need to get the League Monkey off our back asap and I could not care less about the manner in which it is achieved.
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Post by Pies on Mar 16, 2011 9:34:20 GMT
Hockey isnt boring if you're winning - I'd rather we lost the fans who only cared about being enertained and sacrificing the wins to be entertained and keep the fans who want us to win at any cost because ultimatly the record books show who wins the league not who entertained the fans the most.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Mar 16, 2011 11:56:16 GMT
Haha brilliant, I take it you don't run a business?
Let's not forget that boring hockey doesn't guarantee the league. If that was the case Hull would of won it again and again under Strachan.
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