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Post by Pies on Jan 31, 2011 21:27:16 GMT
BIH has started a rumour that Mike Ellis is to return to Panthers this summer because he's left his job in Italy......
I think this rumour has very little substance but what do people think?
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Post by pantherinmanc on Jan 31, 2011 21:31:26 GMT
Doubt it. Based on coincidence and little else it seems.
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Post by dodit on Jan 31, 2011 21:40:29 GMT
I pray that this happens.
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Post by pantherinmanc on Jan 31, 2011 21:58:22 GMT
I pray that this happens. I wouldn't be adverse to having him back but that said I do think it would have been better to keep him in the first place. I rated Ellis and still do. Worth noting he has been fired from his job in Italy so something has obviously gone wrong there. I am not saying the fact he left before is reason not to take him, moreover that he's now got to start from square one should he return rather than building on what he'd already achieved had he been retained. He left under a cloud though and I can't see him coming back unless it is to work for a different GM. I do often wonder what Ellis could have achieved if he'd been afforded the same resources as Neilson (that's not a dig at Neil Black, fair to say we may have become more liquid since Ellis left, freeing up more budget). Ellis never had a spare import from what I remember, in fact I remember him dusting down his #44 when times were hard and icing himself. 2 more years and the same support as Neilson has had and I think Ellis would have been very successful. |
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Post by Pies on Jan 31, 2011 22:12:53 GMT
Ellis was the right man at the wrong time IMO. Had he been given 3 seasons and the budget of Corey of these last 3 seasons, it would have been a very different picture IMO
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Post by Shaggy on Jan 31, 2011 22:37:31 GMT
And that's all you need to hear...  BIH's track record on rumours is worse than mine on the National Lottery... having said that, since I've actually come out and said it - they'll probably be bang on! But I for one doubt it... |
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Post by ab74 on Jan 31, 2011 22:41:29 GMT
I do often wonder what Ellis could have achieved if he'd been afforded the same resources as Neilson (that's not a dig at Neil Black, fair to say we may have become more liquid since Ellis left, freeing up more budget). Ellis never had a spare import from what I remember, in fact I remember him dusting down his #44 when times were hard and icing himself. 2 more years and the same support as Neilson has had and I think Ellis would have been very successful. id like to see ellis back and i remember him icing for us too, but i also seem to remember he then brought in nelson and coleman... and when them 2 arrived stancok never iced, so he may have had a spare import, unless stancok was out through injury for the majority of the end of the 07/08 season |
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Post by dodit on Jan 31, 2011 22:47:34 GMT
I think Stancok was out with concussion.
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Post by ab74 on Jan 31, 2011 22:52:52 GMT
for ~20 games? in a 54 game league season, not including challenge cup that we won.... he played 32 games according to hockeydb
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Post by darrylolsen on Jan 31, 2011 23:00:50 GMT
Stancock was a spare.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jan 31, 2011 23:27:50 GMT
I wouldn't mind seeing Ellis back, I enjoyed watching us play under him. I can't see it happening though.
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Post by oldman on Feb 1, 2011 0:00:15 GMT
Not a chance unless we have major changes in the GM office!
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Post by panthers4ever on Feb 1, 2011 7:00:59 GMT
Wouldn't say no to Ellis return
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Post by dp on Feb 1, 2011 8:21:52 GMT
Oh god please no! I've never seen such heartless, unmotivated teams as Ellis gave us. I remember the dark days of Ellis when a four point weekend was totally unheard of.
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Post by jd on Feb 1, 2011 8:36:18 GMT
No thanks - playing Corey as a Centre? Remember that?
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Post by Yotes on Feb 1, 2011 9:54:20 GMT
It's a no thanks for me too. Not that it'd ever happen with GM and NB at the club. Seems an odd rumour, even for BIH.
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Post by EMB on Feb 1, 2011 10:30:32 GMT
Not a cat in hells chance as long as GM is in charge.
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Post by lee on Feb 1, 2011 14:32:59 GMT
hope not...people moan about Jade going drinking before a game, it was the enitire team in his reign, and he never signed a centre, played corey up front... no thanks! no need to go backwards.
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Post by Adam on Feb 1, 2011 14:34:21 GMT
I've heard new coach next season will be Gerad Adams, almost sure of it.
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Post by ggggranville on Feb 1, 2011 14:44:37 GMT
If you thought that the Galbraith incident in Belfast was poor then wind back to the Ellis era. The whole team including Ellis were in Rockies and worse for wear.
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Post by ggggranville on Feb 1, 2011 14:46:32 GMT
I've heard new coach next season will be Gerad Adams, almost sure of it. Now that is an interesting rumour  . I dont think many players would want to cross Mr Adams. |
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Post by pantherinmanc on Feb 1, 2011 14:47:23 GMT
I've heard new coach next season will be Gerad Adams, almost sure of it. No thanks. Has done well this year but not the man for the job in my opinion, not an out and out bench coach with significant pedigree. That is the only type of guy this club should be going after, no rookie bench coaches, no player coaches. Seasoned, proven coach. |
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Post by Shorty on Feb 1, 2011 15:33:32 GMT
Lets get Jim Playfair in.
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Post by Rich on Feb 1, 2011 18:04:35 GMT
If you thought that the Galbraith incident in Belfast was poor then wind back to the Ellis era. The whole team including Ellis were in Rockies and worse for wear. Until 4AM with the game the next night? "Ellis didnt sign a centre", must have been dreaming 2 of the best weve had in recent years then when Gallant and Stevens won us the playoffs. Having said that, it wont happen and I dont think Id want it to. Equally as uninspired by Adams though tbh. Its taken him what, 3 years to figure how to get a result on a big rink, he wouldnt get that long in Nottingham. |
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Post by Yotes on Feb 1, 2011 18:22:11 GMT
"Ellis didnt sign a centre", must have been dreaming 2 of the best weve had in recent years then when Gallant and Stevens won us the playoffs. I seem to remember the 07/08 team being short at centre, at least import centres. Might have made that up mind you  |
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. I dont think many players would want to cross Mr Adams. 
