KSP wants to leave according to sheffield star

[panthermick]

sheffield star reports:

there are rumours that Nottingham Panthers goalie Kevin St Pierre wants away - even though he has signed for next season.

www.thestar.co.uk/icehockey/Steelers-chase-Cody-but-lose.6298591.jp


Just to let everyone know this is a complete drivel and KSP is going nowhere. he told me this personnaly himself

[heja]

always make me laugh with steelers and the star

for example Cody agent has approached us about signing next season, What a none story, his agent would of approached every coach in the UK, and in europe if hes a good agent, i bet rick strachen even got approached by his agent and he has not coached in 2 years.

[pantherinmanc]

Ha ha. The obsession continues!

I hope they sign Cody, I wouldn't have wanted him in Nottingham, it's all very well facing serious rubber week in week out for the Caps but in Shuff he'd be expected to carry the team and perform at 100% every week, i'm genuinely not sure he can do that.

[panthersdarlin]

Lmao! They never fail to make me laugh!

[lee]

if i was in charge of nottingham panthers and this was not true i would be having serious talks with the daily star about printing this type of thing. what does it achieve? if it is true, (which i can't see given how much him and DAB were looking forward to a last season together) we need to let him go and get recruiting someone else.

[Number 9.1]

Fingers crossed, eh?

[gcmandrake]

"Meanwhile, there are rumours that Nottingham Panthers goalie Kevin St Pierre wants away - even though he has signed for next season."

Absolves them from any legal action sadly.

[pantherinmanc]

Sadly it's the way journalism has gone in recent times. Too much 'a source told us <enter blatant lies plucked from thin air>' and not enough journalism on fact. Sensationalism is king.

[Shaggy]

Dear oh dear... SSDD... (Sheffield Star Daily Drivel)

Is it true that Sheffield City Council have banned people from putting old copies of the Stir into their recycling bins because it's considered bio-hazardous waste due to all of the <excrement> in it? ;D

Actually, I wouldn't be too happy at this article if I were running the Steelers either (ugh, I feel ill at the very thought!).
After all, it breaks down as follows:-

- The Steelers have been approached by an agent! Stop the press!
- Matsos isn't bringing back last season's starting netminder
- The Steelers failed to sign Phil Osaer
- The Steelers failed to sign Nathan Craze
- The Steelers have rejected this 'top' Swedish netminder that nobody's ever heard of
- OBLIGATORY DIG AT THE PANTHERS! - KSP rumoured to be backing out... no source or corroboration
- The Steelers "have lost three of their Brit pack to other teams in the last few days" including Dan Green to those dastardly Panthers!

Wow, big news. All publicity is good publicity? As if...

Failed, rejected, lost... are these the current buzzwords in Steeler-land? ;D

[Deleted]

May 17, 2010 12:23:06 GMT Shaggy said:

Dear oh dear... SSDD... (Sheffield Star Daily Drivel)

Is it true that Sheffield City Council have banned people from putting old copies of the Stir into their recycling bins because it's considered bio-hazardous waste due to all of the <excrement> in it? ;D

Actually, I wouldn't be too happy at this article if I were running the Steelers either (ugh, I feel ill at the very thought!).
After all, it breaks down as follows:-

- The Steelers have been approached by an agent! Stop the press!
- Matsos isn't bringing back last season's starting netminder
- The Steelers failed to sign Phil Osaer
- The Steelers failed to sign Nathan Craze
- The Steelers have rejected this 'top' Swedish netminder that nobody's ever heard of
- OBLIGATORY DIG AT THE PANTHERS! - KSP rumoured to be backing out... no source or corroboration
- The Steelers "have lost three of their Brit pack to other teams in the last few days" including Dan Green to those dastardly Panthers!

Wow, big news. All publicity is good publicity? As if...

Failed, rejected, lost... are these the current buzzwords in Steeler-land? ;D

;D

[EMB]

Maybe Kevin wants to follow Bruce to Braehead as he wouldn't have known about that until after he signed, and also his other big mate Bergie has gone. I know you don't follow your mates around and a jobs a job these days I'm just saying what if?
Anyway he's been trained up at Rocco's to replace Bergie so he has to stay, and his best mate DAB is coming to live with him. ;D

[abi]

May 17, 2010 10:08:58 GMT @pantherinmanc said:

I hope they sign Cody, I wouldn't have wanted him in Nottingham, it's all very well facing serious rubber week in week out for the Caps but in Shuff he'd be expected to carry the team and perform at 100% every week, i'm genuinely not sure he can do that.

Caps may well have been absolute basement at times if it wasn't for Cody. I'd snap him up in a heartbeat!

[pantherinmanc]

May 18, 2010 8:51:10 GMT abi said:

May 17, 2010 10:08:58 GMT @pantherinmanc said:

I hope they sign Cody, I wouldn't have wanted him in Nottingham, it's all very well facing serious rubber week in week out for the Caps but in Shuff he'd be expected to carry the team and perform at 100% every week, i'm genuinely not sure he can do that.

Caps may well have been absolute basement at times if it wasn't for Cody. I'd snap him up in a heartbeat!

For Vipers maybe, without wishing to sound arrogant Panthers are a different proposition. How does Cody deal with the sort of pressure playing for Panthers brings? How does he cope facing 20 shots not 50?

Also think you're being pretty harsh on the Caps there, the reason they were not a 'basement' team was down to much more than just their nettie.

[abi]

May 18, 2010 9:04:14 GMT @pantherinmanc said:

For Vipers maybe, without wishing to sound arrogant Panthers are a different proposition. How does Cody deal with the sort of pressure playing for Panthers brings? How does he cope facing 20 shots not 50?

Erm, if he's a good goalie he'll play well regardless of how many shots he faces. I truly believe he'd be a great force for a team with a competitive defence and offensive unit.

Koenig went from great to bloody fantastic moving from Newcastle to Coventry, and I think that Cody is probably a better netminder than him...

[bhall]

This is categorically NOT TRUE !!!

He will be with us next season, no question !!

I saw this in the star and thought I'd drop KSP a note and ask the man himself!

The man told me he'll be with us next season!

Rumour is no more !!

[martin]

Hey, there's a bit of the bottom of the site that tells you how to complain about the drivel they print...

[pantherinmanc]

May 18, 2010 10:06:09 GMT abi said:

May 18, 2010 9:04:14 GMT @pantherinmanc said:

For Vipers maybe, without wishing to sound arrogant Panthers are a different proposition. How does Cody deal with the sort of pressure playing for Panthers brings? How does he cope facing 20 shots not 50?

Erm, if he's a good goalie he'll play well regardless of how many shots he faces. I truly believe he'd be a great force for a team with a competitive defence and offensive unit.

Koenig went from great to bloody fantastic moving from Newcastle to Coventry, and I think that Cody is probably a better netminder than him...

So circumstances, pressure, the weight of expectation play no part in sport? I think you've missed my point, not that facing more shots makes him a better or worse goalie but that the circumstances within which he is playing will have a bearing on his ability to perform. The fact of the matter is that most sports pro's have some damn good ability and it generally comes down to consistency, do it nine times out of ten and you're a superstar, do it once out of ten and you're a nobody.

I would not have him at Panthers, it's a wholly different proposition playing in front of the biggest crowds, with the biggest weight of expectation on your shoulders, week in week out.

[Rumpole]

I am in regular contact with Frenchie (I'm his Gold Sponsor). This "story" is absolute drivel. Period.

[pantherinmanc]

May 19, 2010 8:12:30 GMT Rumpole said:

I am in regular contact with Frenchie (I'm his Gold Sponsor). This "story" is absolute drivel. Period.

It can;t be, it was in the Shuff Stir. I refuse to believe they print 'drivel'.

[Number 9.1]

May 19, 2010 7:16:06 GMT @pantherinmanc said:

May 18, 2010 10:06:09 GMT abi said:

Erm, if he's a good goalie he'll play well regardless of how many shots he faces. I truly believe he'd be a great force for a team with a competitive defence and offensive unit.

Koenig went from great to bloody fantastic moving from Newcastle to Coventry, and I think that Cody is probably a better netminder than him...

So circumstances, pressure, the weight of expectation play no part in sport? I think you've missed my point, not that facing more shots makes him a better or worse goalie but that the circumstances within which he is playing will have a bearing on his ability to perform. The fact of the matter is that most sports pro's have some damn good ability and it generally comes down to consistency, do it nine times out of ten and you're a superstar, do it once out of ten and you're a nobody.

I would not have him at Panthers, it's a wholly different proposition playing in front of the biggest crowds, with the biggest weight of expectation on your shoulders, week in week out.

It's a fair point (Perras, anybody?) but ability to handle pressure should be a key part of a proper goaltender's kit. As a player who's spent a good part of his career on the fringes of the AHL and regularly posted good numbers, though, I'd be happier with this guy than St Pierre.

[pantherinmanc]

May 19, 2010 9:07:12 GMT Number 9.1 said:

May 19, 2010 7:16:06 GMT @pantherinmanc said:

So circumstances, pressure, the weight of expectation play no part in sport? I think you've missed my point, not that facing more shots makes him a better or worse goalie but that the circumstances within which he is playing will have a bearing on his ability to perform. The fact of the matter is that most sports pro's have some damn good ability and it generally comes down to consistency, do it nine times out of ten and you're a superstar, do it once out of ten and you're a nobody.

I would not have him at Panthers, it's a wholly different proposition playing in front of the biggest crowds, with the biggest weight of expectation on your shoulders, week in week out.

It's a fair point (Perras, anybody?) but ability to handle pressure should be a key part of a proper goaltender's kit. As a player who's spent a good part of his career on the fringes of the AHL and regularly posted good numbers, though, I'd be happier with this guy than St Pierre.

I take your point, but KSP was not, IMO, the reason we underachieved last season. We have a guy who has proven he can deal with the pressure of playing in Nottingham and perform to a good level, with a quality D in front of him he can backstop the title we crave, why risk it by taking a guy who may or may not deal with the pressure? Put the effort into finding 2 D-men (as per the official site this morning) who will give KSP the defence he was left without on so many occasions last term. I thought KSP got better and better as the season wore on and finished the season strongly, he did more than enough for me to merit another stint at the NIC. It's been several years since we finished and started the season with the same NM let alone kept one for 2 seasons - there is a lot to be said for that continuity I think.

Just to be clear I agree 100% that CR is a quality netminder, i'm just not sure, if I were CN, that his ability would be enough to make me want to make that move - there is a lot more to it, sport is as much about confidence, attitude and behaviour as it is about ability.

[Number 9.1]

A core part of my dislike of KSP as an NM is that he's not a game winner and that he regularly plays his part in defeat. I'm not at all confident that an upgrade on D will change that.

[pantherinmanc]

May 19, 2010 11:29:22 GMT Number 9.1 said:

A core part of my dislike of KSP as an NM is that he's not a game winner and that he regularly plays his part in defeat. I'm not at all confident that an upgrade on D will change that.

I take you point, again, but disagree... sport eh, all about opinions!

[rab5]

not been on for awhile, but this thread did make me chuckle bearing in mind what did happen and some of the comments on here...