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Post by jd on Mar 17, 2024 16:20:16 GMT
Bruce Richardson would be a good choice. In my opinion he more than anybody turned the Panthers around by instilling a will to win. Sadly when he left so did Panthers new found hard nosed mentality. Yep, that hard nosed mentality was missing so much that we only won 7 trophies out of the 9 available in the 3 seasons after Bruce left... Don’t let facts get in the way of an ex fans views Jono lol
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Post by jd on Mar 17, 2024 16:08:22 GMT
No chance he will come back here, massive step down for him.
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Post by jd on Mar 16, 2024 23:47:06 GMT
How many coaches come in and see it click in their first season? Before a puck was dropped this season, many were laughing that Steelers coach was still employed. They have stuck with him, added year on year and have reaped the rewards. Parades has a good record over time, and can be forgiven for this year given the AJ situation. His stock was / is still high after his record in France to improve teams over time. Go for an overseas coach again and you have to give them a season (or two) to create any serious impact. I can’t think of many coaches who were only here a very short time, but two who were and won a trophy were Ben Simon at Sheffield and Chuck Weber at Coventry. So it can be done. The old saying “It has to take time” is just an excuse used by those who fail. There are plenty of coaches in the EIHL who have been here years like Stewart, Dixon,Pacha and Dutiame who have won absolutely nothing. So it’s an excuse to say it’ll take time and then you say only 2 have done it straight away?! So it’s not an excuse?! Fox has been given time and look what he has done. Sheffield could have sacked him after a season but they didn’t. Could have sacked him after he lost to us in the Covid season but they didn’t.
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Post by jd on Mar 16, 2024 23:44:45 GMT
Like Gary Graham or Rich Chernomaz?! They still have a higher success rate than a European lol Yet they won nothing at panthers and didn’t last a season. Didn’t have to content with a player dying on the ice though did they? Didn’t have to go through that.
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Post by jd on Mar 16, 2024 22:54:34 GMT
Good point to get tonight. Just makes the last couple of results even more frustrating. Would definitely like us to resign Otto for next season. He has certainly turned up just lately and is now into the top 10 points scorers in the league. Would love him and Roy back, Neill too.
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Post by jd on Mar 16, 2024 22:54:12 GMT
Let's be honest steelers will score as many as the want ... Could be beyond embarrassing They did alright!
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Post by jd on Mar 16, 2024 21:29:12 GMT
Lost on Pens. Good effort that, not the cricket score some thought it would be
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Post by jd on Mar 16, 2024 9:20:36 GMT
I do actually feel for this new crop of panthers fan, they weren't around when panthers were good and probably will never see this team be successful. So finishing anywhere between 6th to 10th will be the norm I'm afraid Most (in fact all up to last and this) of the last few seasons have seen Panthers in the top 5, so "6-10" is hardly any kind of new norm. Up to March 20, Panthers were the form team in the league, with a very well balanced team. A duff team last season, we all know that, and an unprecedented, fractured, tragic season this is all we can tell from the last 2 years. Spot on
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Post by jd on Mar 16, 2024 8:27:09 GMT
Need NB to go but that won’t happen sadly. Sheffield have a proper owner who will make sure they’re up the top every year, if only we had that
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Post by jd on Mar 16, 2024 0:16:29 GMT
10 years ago we won the challenge cup after winning the lot the year before, not sure we would have been complaining. Since he left the club has fallen apart. But I know you won’t agree. Neilson was ok for a few years when he started. Poor league record though. Then he got bored,didn’t seem bothered and looked and sounded like he was just going through the motions. It went stale,he stayed far too long and since then the club has been a massive mess ! But don’t forget in Coreys best years,both Sheffield and Cardiff were in a mess with/after Phillips and Regan. Only coach to the win the league for us since what, 1956? Won so many playoffs and challenge cups and then the continental trophy. All that whilst having a poor owner. Wonder what he could have done with a proper budget eh! Must have killed you when he won the league hahahaha
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Post by jd on Mar 16, 2024 0:06:20 GMT
The only consistent person is those years is the issue. Said it a million times, until he goes nothing will change I totally agree,I was telling you that ten years ago. Still saying it today,Black creates the bad ethos that seeps down through the club onto the ice. 10 years ago we won the challenge cup after winning the lot the year before, not sure we would have been complaining. Since he left the club has fallen apart. But I know you won’t agree. CN winning so much is unreal looking back now.
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:51:27 GMT
If you believe the culture of the club is the reason why we’ve struggled and have ended up languished in last place then I think you’re being unfair. The team have been through something catastrophic and unfortunately it has affected the professional relationship between them all. Nothing is normal for the team, what we expect from the coaches, in terms of motivation and leadership, doesn’t seem to be there when you watch them on the bench. I know your opinions on the club, as well as how long you’ve been watching hockey. Surely you can see that nothing is normal, there have been so many difficulties for the club to navigate. The club’s culture isn’t the cause of all of this Ok take this year out if it. What’s the excuse for the many other years ? Constantly finishing 4th,5th,6th then even 7th and now looking like 10th shows there is a problem. A pretty big one. The only consistent person is those years is the issue. Said it a million times, until he goes nothing will change
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:44:31 GMT
If you believe the culture of the club is the reason why we’ve struggled and have ended up languished in last place then I think you’re being unfair. The team have been through something catastrophic and unfortunately it has affected the professional relationship between them all. Nothing is normal for the team, what we expect from the coaches, in terms of motivation and leadership, doesn’t seem to be there when you watch them on the bench. I know your opinions on the club, as well as how long you’ve been watching hockey. Surely you can see that nothing is normal, there have been so many difficulties for the club to navigate. The club’s culture isn’t the cause of all of this As I said on the Fife thread, before all this happened, we weren't a bottom side, we would be in the Playoffs. The players have battled even though that losing streak was getting bad, they clawed their way back but unfortunately the fixtures came thick and fast and it had to be the Scottish away games that had to be covered. The club could have helped out more by covering that Welsh injury that lasted a long time. The whole Robinson fiasco hasn't helped. Not being able to get a NM is a stupid rule and hasn't done Rok any favours as surely he wouldn't have been playing all these games. And then there was the rotten luck of Neilson getting injured during warm up. This season will go down as a What If... Totally agree. That night in Sheffield was horrific and quite how they’ve managed to play again is still a miracle.
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:37:02 GMT
Have you been living under a rock for the last 11 years and baring a 3 year spell.. its been like this since the NIC Was built! It's just not a winning culture in Nottingham.. it staggers me how many decent looking players arrive in Nottingham and under perform.. it happens to frequent to be just down to back luck. Won trophies for more than 3 years CN, so not all about breeding losers. We all know who the issue is but CN won well. He had a winning culture.
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:31:28 GMT
Don’t hold your breath for an answer!
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:23:05 GMT
Why don’t you answer the question Ian? The Nottingham culture does what exactly? Breeds losing. That better Not really cos you don’t explain fully what you mean, you never do! CN somehow managed to win trophies though, hardly breeding losing was he!
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:13:42 GMT
Have you been living under a rock for the last 11 years and baring a 3 year spell.. its been like this since the NIC Was built! It's just not a winning culture in Nottingham.. it staggers me how many decent looking players arrive in Nottingham and under perform.. it happens to frequent to be just down to back luck. Why don’t you answer the question Ian? The Nottingham culture does what exactly?
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:04:08 GMT
The Nottingham culture does what exactly? You've been watching the team long enough, I'll let you fill in the blanks 😉 Why don’t you tell us? You seem to know everything
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 16:34:20 GMT
Listening to the interview that BBC Nottingham did with Paredes after the Fife game, you get some insight from him with regards the injuries. Sounds as though Neill will be out for a while… www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hj741wI’d be surprised if we saw Carl play again this season Whats he done?
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Post by jd on Mar 14, 2024 14:22:02 GMT
I think you'll find the team are travelling up today. That’s good
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Post by jd on Mar 13, 2024 14:30:23 GMT
How many spare imports do you want the club to have? All of them 😉 Though to be fair, Giants and Steelers have some big squads this year. Partly through injuries and it's not always been enough to stop them being short benched. One thing I will say, I once had a conversation with NB in January one season and he was expressing his frustration at being out of the running for the league title already. As he put it, and I'm paraphrasing "if we're in league contention before the deadline then bringing in new players makes sense financially". He likes winning the playoffs but it doesn't mean much in terms of the other titles to him as it's realistically only winning a handful of games once you've qualified to lift the title. And like we all know, little will change until NB goes. GM, GD, OP, all come and go but the consistent is NB
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Post by jd on Mar 13, 2024 14:21:01 GMT
And what about Hazeldine, Luciani and Pare? Luciani replaced Farley though so he’s no spare. One spare import in Pare is not enough to justify the excuse that they’re tired. Every team is likely to suffer injuries and more so if you’ve got a condensed schedule. They should have brought in more or used IR but they never use IR for some reason. How many spare imports do you want the club to have?
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Post by jd on Mar 13, 2024 14:05:50 GMT
I’m no big advocate for Pacha but to fair after the incident he brought in Farley and Despres. Also brought in Hazeldine for Tetlow when he was injured and since brought in Luciani and Pare. After that you couldn’t possibly foresee any injuries down the line we’d get and if we’re full strength then we’re carrying a spare forward and spare defenceman. Farley and Despres replaced Johnson and Bjorklund though so they were just replacements not spares. And what about Hazeldine, Luciani and Pare?
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Post by jd on Mar 13, 2024 13:26:25 GMT
Cancel culture in full swing on the cage forum I see... Yes very sad times .. It certainly is. When I called you and Iggy the Chuckle Brothers I was censored. Whereas you are both free to get your trolling kicks. If you despise the organisation as much as you clearly do, I’m at a loss why you waste your energy on here. Bet you don't get an answer for that (confirmed). Cant think why Iginla never hears back from the club.
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Post by jd on Mar 13, 2024 12:57:41 GMT
Sad times Robbie, but predictable.....again
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