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Post by icebandit on Oct 9, 2009 22:54:54 GMT
Hi
Don't know if you are at or been past this stage.
Over the past three seasons I have been taking my son and his mates, up five of them to most home matches.
They spend money in the shop, on programs and have had a snatch or too.
I am sure the arena's policy is for over 14's to pay full adult price.
I and his mates parents are not prepared or can not afford the extra £7.00 for the same seat.
I have checked on the other teams websites and they all seem to charge kids up to the age of 16. Why dont we ?.
This policy doesnt encourage teenagers to continue to be a fan, breaks up a family night out, encourages the teenagers to do other stuff/up to no go. I think they like a routine, enjoy the night out with the mates. I thought the league wanted more fans to come and watch, I am sure this situation has happened with other families.
If some teenagers stop watching the game at 14, then its going to be harder to get them back when they are 17+.
In years to come, children have got to stop at school until they are 18 too. I know they can get part time jobs, but they can never earn loads of money at that age, even thou they are classed as paying adults at the Trent FM Arena.
Unfortunately I will not be taking him to any games, and I will probably not go as much now as it will not be the same.
I think they should change this policy to encourage and grow this family sport.
I have sent an email to panthers, but I may just get a diplomatic response.
Cheers
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Post by Lucy on Oct 9, 2009 23:09:44 GMT
There is a 'student' season ticket, so I would have thought there is also a student price for matchday tickets.
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 9, 2009 23:16:06 GMT
I think the student ticket deal probably makes this seam worse. I don't think you can get a student card until you at least finish your gcse's(not sure though). So before 14 you get a cheap ticket. after 16 you get a cheap ticket(maybe older). But between you have to pay full price!
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Post by Number 9.1 on Oct 9, 2009 23:16:09 GMT
... and have had a snatch or too. Say what?
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Post by heja on Oct 9, 2009 23:19:41 GMT
you can get student tickets for £11, £4 more instead of £7
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Post by dodit on Oct 9, 2009 23:20:06 GMT
Even though it's not a season ticket, when under 16 I always had a consession ticket. Last month I became a student and still go to matches paying for the same ticket at the same price, I've never heard of anything to do with 14 years. One thing that makes me laugh is, whenever the ticket as been purchased or when ever I've been going into the games with the tickets, I haven't been asked to prove that I am a student, which is suprising that I haven't had to prove it, I guess there's still time though. you can get student tickets for £11, £4 more instead of £7 I spose it depends where you sit as well though, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it that price for sitting in the bronze blocks?
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Post by daddyrich on Oct 9, 2009 23:23:04 GMT
What gets me icebandit is that on radio trent the breakfast show with twiggy and emma on fridays they give away family passes to the next panthers home game wich i thought was a brill idea only they dont sell them at the box office. So why dont gm & nb come up with a family pass to buy on match nights thats one way to increase the attendence. Also many years ago at forest they did a tandem season ticket 1 adult + 1 child at a special price and it worked but you can put these to the powers at be and they wont entertain it:(
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 9, 2009 23:23:13 GMT
Actually if i think back 10 years i was getting in on a concesion when i was 16/17. just depends how young your son looks i supose.
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Post by icebandit on Oct 10, 2009 7:47:55 GMT
Hi
The £7 pounds tickets for under 14 were for the Bronze zones, not sure what the prices are for Silver and Gold.
However when I always went to get them they nearly always asked if they were under the age of 14.
I know the season tickets are for under 16, however haven't got the cash for both.
I am sure they would get more people coming along if they changed it, as I think its hard to guess what a 13 - 16 age really is.
Cheers
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Post by Markus on Oct 10, 2009 9:35:44 GMT
icebandit, sounds naughty, but if the youngsters aren't with you when you buy the tickets and you dont, as it would seem from other posters on concession tickets, have to prove age/identity when you enter the arena, you could just *ahem* lie and buy the tickets anyway.
Obviously I could never condone such actions, but it would seem the sort of thing people could do if they really wanted. :-)
You might get stopped one day, and if that day comes, then you stop bringing them from then on.
You have to play these people at their own game, they are good at taking cash off us under false pretences - booking fee for card payments is my favourite 'hidden charge', so some times you have to be a little bit sneaky back.
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Post by TartanPanther on Oct 10, 2009 9:44:03 GMT
Why should kids pay less than adults? They are paying for the seat not part of a seat so why pay part of the price. It is not as if they get a smaller seat or less of anything else. Parents choose to have children so should accept the financial responsibilities that go with that.
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Post by Markus on Oct 10, 2009 9:57:07 GMT
That one is another discussion/argument all together. Fact is that it is pretty standard tradition for children to pay a lesser price than adults, though often the concept of 'half' price for kids went south many years ago.
Other arenas are more reasonable and do allow children up to the age of 16, I bought a ticket for my 15 year old nephew to the Hull tournament at the start of the season for the stunning cost of only 5 pounds, well LESS than half price, I also paid for our tickets on Visa, and didn't seem to incur any booking charge either, hmmm, so it must be possible to process a card payment without adding an extra charge....
NIC take note!
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Post by daddyrich on Oct 10, 2009 10:02:20 GMT
i take it you dont have kids tartan and if your sooooooooooooooooo right thinking that then why dont you complain to the government. Make kids pay council tax/send them out to work and not school/let them go into a pub and buy beer. if you want them to pay adult prices then let them live as an adult in fact im gonna take my 9yr old out of school and get him a job at my place and then we can go out after the games and get stupidly drunk together. Do you agree tarten that we shoud be allowed to do that with our kids Hmmmmmmm i dont think so do you
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Post by gasman on Oct 10, 2009 10:04:52 GMT
Hi They spend money in the shop, on programs and have had a snatch or too. They sell snatch in the shop???
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Post by daddyrich on Oct 10, 2009 10:06:56 GMT
lmfao sens brill lol
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Post by spik on Oct 10, 2009 12:12:28 GMT
Why should kids pay less than adults? They are paying for the seat not part of a seat so why pay part of the price. It is not as if they get a smaller seat or less of anything else. Parents choose to have children so should accept the financial responsibilities that go with that. I don't have children and not because of choice.So I could be anti concessions here. But I do feel for families who want to come as a group and would bring the future fan base if helped to encourage such by meeting the club half way. A cheaper ticket would do this.They'd still be contributing and if the arena bacame a full house things could change in the fututre to facilitate NOT leaving adults out in the cold because 'hoards' of children got concessions. Seems a good idea to hold onto a fanbase.That includes adults who may choose then not come as a whole if the family can perhaps go elsewhere less expensive. You could also add to this debate that a child may not earn until an adults age of 18, so no money means no ability to purchase.A student at least chooses to take uni etc...a child is subject to reliability to a parents pocket size.
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Post by oldman on Oct 10, 2009 12:25:33 GMT
i take it you dont have kids tartan and if your sooooooooooooooooo right thinking that then why dont you complain to the government. Make kids pay council tax/send them out to work and not school/let them go into a pub and buy beer. if you want them to pay adult prices then let them live as an adult in fact im gonna take my 9yr old out of school and get him a job at my place and then we can go out after the games and get stupidly drunk together. Do you agree tarten that we shoud be allowed to do that with our kids Hmmmmmmm i dont think so do you What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a valid business point though if you can get £15 for a seat why would you make it easier for people to sit there for £7! A great deal of the kids I know around the 14 age group, have Iphones, smoke and enjoy a drink on a friday night etc, Most have a paper round or weekend job plus allowances so they can afford their own ticket surely! N.I.C or the Panthers org. (whoever sanctions this) are not charities they are businesses! As for disregarding the rules and cheating the 'the system' and thus cheating the Panthers out of their legitimate ticket money, well that is maybe the thinking that justifies why today's society is going to hell in a handcart!
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Post by NP on Oct 10, 2009 12:36:15 GMT
the kids can't earn an income though apart from a paper round, and pocket money from their folks. I would be tempted to lie and say they are 13 years, if queried then say they just look older than they actually are, or have a moan to get some sympathy.
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Post by gasman on Oct 10, 2009 12:43:10 GMT
i take it you dont have kids tartan and if your sooooooooooooooooo right thinking that then why dont you complain to the government. Make kids pay council tax/send them out to work and not school/let them go into a pub and buy beer. if you want them to pay adult prices then let them live as an adult in fact im gonna take my 9yr old out of school and get him a job at my place and then we can go out after the games and get stupidly drunk together. Do you agree tarten that we shoud be allowed to do that with our kids Hmmmmmmm i dont think so do you What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a valid business point though if you can get £15 for a seat why would you make it easier for people to sit there for £7! A great deal of the kids I know around the 14 age group, have Iphones, smoke and enjoy a drink on a friday night etc, Most have a paper round or weekend job plus allowances so they can afford their own ticket surely! N.I.C or the Panthers org. (whoever sanctions this) are not charities they are businesses! As for disregarding the rules and cheating the the system and thus cheating the Panthers out of their legitimate ticket money, well that is maybe the thinking that justifies why today's society is going to hell in a handcart! I agree 100%.
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Post by Milkman™ on Oct 10, 2009 17:30:16 GMT
What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a valid business point though if you can get £15 for a seat why would you make it easier for people to sit there for £7! A great deal of the kids I know around the 14 age group, have Iphones, smoke and enjoy a drink on a friday night etc, Most have a paper round or weekend job plus allowances so they can afford their own ticket surely! N.I.C or the Panthers org. (whoever sanctions this) are not charities they are businesses! As for disregarding the rules and cheating the the system and thus cheating the Panthers out of their legitimate ticket money, well that is maybe the thinking that justifies why today's society is going to hell in a handcart! I agree 100%. Lets not get started on the pensioners. I remember parts of block 15 were like gods waiting room. Where are the concessions for the middle sized white boys paying good tax and insurance, and trying to fend for themselves.? No disrespect to the OP, but i reckon your 14 year olds take up more room than I would, so why should they get the concession.
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Post by dodit on Oct 10, 2009 22:10:37 GMT
A great deal of the kids I know around the 14 age group, have Iphones, smoke and enjoy a drink on a friday night etc, To be honest, I think that's just based on a stereotypical view more than anything else, and these are probably the kids who's parents who couldn't give a toss what their kids did and those who say yes to everything that they ask for. Any good teenager these days (Yes they are few and far between) won't necessarily have an iphone, won't go out smoking, won't go out drinking (Unless they are incredibly dull ;D ) and knows when and how to respect money and are greatful for what money they may receive from parents and whatever discounts they receive. Surely then if it's the same for under 16's, why do students get pretty much the same privilages as an under 16 when - depending on whether they go into further education or not - can also hold down a part - time/ full - time job as well? It all balances out.
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Post by oldman on Oct 10, 2009 22:30:16 GMT
A great deal of the kids I know around the 14 age group, have Iphones, smoke and enjoy a drink on a friday night etc, To be honest, I think that's just based on a stereotypical view more than anything else, and these are probably the kids who's parents who couldn't give a toss what their kids did and those who say yes to everything that they ask for. Any good teenager these days (Yes they are few and far between) won't necessarily have an iphone, won't go out smoking, won't go out drinking (Unless they are incredibly dull ;D ) and knows when and how to respect money and are greatful for what money they may receive from parents and whatever discounts they receive. Surely then if it's the same for under 16's, why do students get pretty much the same privilages as an under 16 when - depending on whether they go into further education or not - can also hold down a part - time/ full - time job as well? It all balances out. Ha ha it was a tongue in cheek comment, i am all too well aware they are not all hoodies you know! ;D They do all have mobiles though!
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Post by dodit on Oct 10, 2009 22:41:29 GMT
To be honest, I think that's just based on a stereotypical view more than anything else, and these are probably the kids who's parents who couldn't give a toss what their kids did and those who say yes to everything that they ask for. Any good teenager these days (Yes they are few and far between) won't necessarily have an iphone, won't go out smoking, won't go out drinking (Unless they are incredibly dull ;D ) and knows when and how to respect money and are greatful for what money they may receive from parents and whatever discounts they receive. Surely then if it's the same for under 16's, why do students get pretty much the same privilages as an under 16 when - depending on whether they go into further education or not - can also hold down a part - time/ full - time job as well? It all balances out. Ha ha it was a tongue in cheek comment, i am all too well aware they are not all hoodies you know! ;D They do all have mobiles though! Oh I know, I did approach my responce with a bit of sarcasm as well, I was just making a point where I saw needed Who doesn't have a mobile phone these days? (Here's where I'm expecting someone to come out and say 'Me' ;D )
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Post by loveday on Oct 10, 2009 22:42:37 GMT
Lets not get started on the pensioners. I remember parts of block 15 were like gods waiting room. Where are the concessions for the middle sized white boys paying good tax and insurance, and trying to fend for themselves.? No disrespect to the OP, but i reckon your 14 year olds take up more room than I would, so why should they get the concession. Lets not get at OAP's in Block 15 or for that matter Block 5. Any OAP or Child of any age in those 2 Blocks pay the FULL PRICE (£!6.00 for each Match Day Ticket or £340 for their Season Ticket) No concessions for anybody. We choose to pay the full price for us and the children but agree not everyone can afford to. There are family tickets for the Play Offs so why not Family Tickets for Match Days. The Children of today are the future Fans of tomorrow. So lets have affordable tickets for them.
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Post by spik on Oct 10, 2009 23:18:32 GMT
Lets not get started on the pensioners. I remember parts of block 15 were like gods waiting room. Where are the concessions for the middle sized white boys paying good tax and insurance, and trying to fend for themselves.? No disrespect to the OP, but i reckon your 14 year olds take up more room than I would, so why should they get the concession. Lets not get at OAP's in Block 15 or for that matter Block 5. Any OAP or Child of any age in those 2 Blocks pay the FULL PRICE (£!6.00 for each Match Day Ticket or £340 for their Season Ticket) No concessions for anybody. We choose to pay the full price for us and the children but agree not everyone can afford to. There are family tickets for the Play Offs so why not Family Tickets for Match Days. The Children of today are the future Fans of tomorrow. So lets have affordable tickets for them. +1
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