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Post by buster on Oct 5, 2009 10:42:26 GMT
I went yesterday and i wish i didn't bother! The team showed lack on intrest from start to finish. They can say that wanted to try but i no for a fact they didn't care about this game at all and it's really annoying for all the panthers fans that paid good money to go and watch that to support their team. The way they didn't even acknowledge our support at the end and went down the tunnel without coming over to a big crowd of fans was out of order. Very embarrassing day and a waste of time and money. why would you expect cheers from your fans if you hadnt earnt them? would you have cheered their performance had they skated over? this is a prime example of fans thinking they are owed something by the team (and has nothing to do with the cost they paid). would it have been worth the £25 that you paid to see that performance and then have them skate over to your section of the crowd? would it have made it all worthwhile? i think you hold a little too much stock in a small gesture that you expected to get. perhaps they were ordered off the ice by the coach, perhaps they realised they didnt deserve any praise.
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Post by Milkman™ on Oct 5, 2009 10:43:33 GMT
You reckon PA/ME will be looking for their £2M ? Maybe they could stage some kind of one-day hockey tournament to help raise the cash. How cutting edge, I like it. Let common sense prevail this time, have in Nottingham and dont bother inviting the bottom 4.
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Post by spik on Oct 5, 2009 10:53:02 GMT
I think if I were there and the lads had played poor.I would not want to have them skate over, because I would not have wanted to applaud and they'd look silly if this was the case from most. Maybe this was also in the players thoughts, even if it only takes seconds to do.
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Post by Milkman™ on Oct 5, 2009 10:57:57 GMT
I think if I were there and the lads had played poor.I would not want to have them skate over, because I would not have wanted to applaud and they'd look silly if this was the case from most. Maybe this was also in the players thoughts, even if it only takes seconds to do. Acknowledgement for showing your support, away from home, especially given the current economic climate (a great cover all excuse I am going to miss when there is an upturn) costs nothing and should be the norm.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 5, 2009 11:00:37 GMT
why would you expect cheers from your fans if you hadnt earnt them? would you have cheered their performance had they skated over? I've always thought of that bit as them showing their appreciation for us, as much as vice versa. I'd hope they would've been met with silence or a few boos for our part of that deal this time, but they should still front up, even if it's just to hold their hand up in apology.
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Post by spik on Oct 5, 2009 11:01:27 GMT
One point to show how slack people are at Elite HQ....a trophy was not even bought for the competition.The old AHEARNE trophy was taken out of the cabinet to be presented.Just shows you what intentions they don't have regards that competition against foriegn opposition. So what if the Ahearne strikes up again (gulp).....
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Post by Milkman™ on Oct 5, 2009 11:03:05 GMT
One point to show how slack people are at Elite HQ....a trophy was not even bought for the competition.The old AHEARNE trophy was taken out of the cabinet to be presented.Just shows you what intentions they don't have regards that competition against foriegn opposition. So what if the Ahearne strikes up again (gulp)..... In their defence (gulp, how hard was that), if you listen to the excellent BBC NOttingham podcast EC does mention that to CE in his interview.
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Post by Number 9.1 on Oct 5, 2009 11:03:39 GMT
Very much a side issue in the light of other factors but I think it's only right to acknowledge the effort of travelling support, isn't it? It is only a small gesture but even if it's to a chorus of boos it seems like one a team ought to make.
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Post by Roxie on Oct 5, 2009 11:10:21 GMT
I have a chocolate labrador called Morgan who I love but, bless him, is a bit thick. His favourite things are licking his backside and spinning round in circles on said backside....but hey if we are going to let little kids pick our lines then why not give Morgan a go....he would probably have played better as well!!!
Seriously I am ashamed and disgusted by what I experienced yesterday and feel totally let down by Corey and the Panthers as a whole...I don't care about losing thats not the point....its about the lack of respect to the fans, the league and the club itself....and Yes Buster they DO owe me something....for my time, money and commitment.....they owe me the decency to be proud to compete for the club and not to take the pi$$ out of me and the hundreds of others who sat through the whole sorry experience not to mention the fansbase as a whole...I'm sorry but I expect more from my team than the coach letting his kids pick the team...that is out of order and he should be ashamed...I know I am
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Post by spik on Oct 5, 2009 11:12:09 GMT
Very much a side issue in the light of other factors but I think it's only right to acknowledge the effort of travelling support, isn't it? It is only a small gesture but even if it's to a chorus of boos it seems like one a team ought to make. Which I totally except. They could have wheeled round quickly even if on the other side of the ice , assuming they had to get off quickly.Less embarrassment IF they got no response I quess.
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Post by spik on Oct 5, 2009 11:15:09 GMT
One point to show how slack people are at Elite HQ....a trophy was not even bought for the competition.The old AHEARNE trophy was taken out of the cabinet to be presented.Just shows you what intentions they don't have regards that competition against foriegn opposition. So what if the Ahearne strikes up again (gulp)..... In their defence ( gulp, how hard was that), if you listen to the excellent BBC NOttingham podcast EC does mention that to CE in his interview. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Oct 5, 2009 11:30:24 GMT
Look at the fickle fans turn on Neilson. Panthers are top of the league, thanks in no small part to his solid coaching, and thats what he should be concentrating on, not some pointless money-spinner for the EIHL/GMs. Aim your hatred towards Moran and his ilk who were only thinking about the money rather than the practicalities of keeping a team match fit to challenge for the league. well said. apart from the bit about moran, without whom and his alleged money greedy way, this club would have been down the shitter a long time ago. It's not well said at all. Yes your right we are top of the table but were not even into double figures as far as games are concerned. Resting three players in a game against our second biggest rivals who are more than capable of beating us at full strength when fans have paid to see a competitive Panthers team try and win a new trophy is simply out of order. Whatever Neilson says it's blatantly obvious they weren't taking it seriously. You can harp on about the bigger picture and resting teams for the long haul all you like but the players have barely been in the country five minutes so should fitness really be an issue after four months off and only four weeks back, no. If Neilson seriously thinks he can fob us off with we've lost a battle but lets win the war then he's having a laugh, you didn't go down with all guns blazing in a thriller of a game you got thumped 6-0 by a big rival because the team could barely be arsed and you decided to replace three key players with Brit kids. Would putting the effort in on one sunday afternoon really make a diference to our title challenge? Well the two coaches who've actually won it didn't think so as they reached the final!
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Post by Number 9.1 on Oct 5, 2009 11:51:22 GMT
Would putting the effort in on one sunday afternoon really make a diference to our title challenge? Well the two coaches who've actually won it didn't think so as they reached the final! Good point.
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Post by EMB on Oct 5, 2009 12:00:04 GMT
There is absoloutley nothing "fickle" about criticising a decision that you do not agree with,.. Whats the opposite to "fickle" then,.. Happy clapper ?? just go along with everything CN does and not have an opinion ? There was nothing Fickle about the fans that turned out in thier hundreds yesterday to be basically given the Finger by the club,... I support this club passionatley,.. am far from fickle,.. but feel totally let down by the organisation yesterday,.. I expect a passion and a will to win,.. a desire to represent the club and its its traditions to the utmost every time a Notttingham team takes to the ice in front of its paying fans. I picked your quote as it echo's exactly how I felt and still feel today, I was really looking forward to yesterday and for most part it was entertaining and different, nice to see all the clubs playing on the same day what gripes me the most is the sheer lack of interest from our club, we even had St Pierre on the BBC podcast saying he doesn't go into any game without wanting to win or there is no point in taking part, shame the others didn't feel the same way. I back corey 100% but his flippant remarks and tone of phrase have just simply pi$$ed me off. Could have well saved the money for something else added to the fact I was already £50 quid short on the day.
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Post by loveday on Oct 5, 2009 12:06:43 GMT
Well having calmed down a little these are my thoughts on the day for you all to ponder over. I would say at least 1000+ Panthers supporters were up in Sheffield. That amounts to at least £30,000 spent in tickets, Petrol, Coach, food, Drinks etc. Sitting for hours on those awful cramped seats with no leg room was a nightmare. How many of those 1000+ fans had left before the final? If they repeat it next year, at the same venue I cannot see that many Panthers Fans going again. So it could well move to Ice Sheffield or Coventry and will be a flop money-wise? I do hope that Corey thinks things through better next time and does not go by the same strategy as he applied yesterday. He has to think of the fans expectations. Better still, lets not bother entering and leave the others to it. Lets keep £30K+ in Nottingham and have our own little "Party"
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Post by EMB on Oct 5, 2009 12:16:03 GMT
lets keep £30K+ in Nottingham and have our own little "Party" OOOhhh you are naughty, you could well start a riot with that comment, but I totally agree with you.
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Post by smart6 on Oct 5, 2009 12:30:44 GMT
Can anyone do a link to the Radio Nottm interview The only podcast I can see is Oct 1st and I missed the interview as I was sitting in a tin shed
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Post by howeaboutthat on Oct 5, 2009 12:58:35 GMT
I do hope that Corey thinks things through better next time and does not go by the same strategy as he applied yesterday. He has to think of the fans expectations. I believe he is. The oldest team in the EIHL with the best fans/biggest fan base, yet a team that hasn't won the league for how long? Ask a Steeler or Blaze fan, they love reminding us. In 50 years time will they be going on about how the Panthers haven't won the Mickey Mouse 20/20 Cup? Not likely, it probably wouldn't have existed for 49 years.
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Post by Number 9.1 on Oct 5, 2009 12:59:29 GMT
Still not the point.
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Post by jambros1 on Oct 5, 2009 13:09:59 GMT
Well I had quite a good day all be it no thanks to our team I just think resting all those players send completely the wrong message it says one of two things
a) we not interested and had to come to make up the numbers
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b) we are so confident in our own ability we are going to blow you all away without really trying!
I don't know which of these two CN was going for but in my eyes they are both an unacceptable attitude!
I also noticed as mentioned earlier the lack of coaches comments in the programme every other club had an A4 page of the coaches thoughts nottingham however it would appear could not be bothered - disrespectfull
I understand the league is more important but there is a difference between not breaking you neck trying to win and getting hammered 6-0!
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Post by howeaboutthat on Oct 5, 2009 13:11:10 GMT
Is that directed at me? Can you flesh that out a bit?
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Post by buster on Oct 5, 2009 13:11:32 GMT
well said. apart from the bit about moran, without whom and his alleged money greedy way, this club would have been down the shitter a long time ago. It's not well said at all. Yes your right we are top of the table but were not even into double figures as far as games are concerned. Resting three players in a game against our second biggest rivals who are more than capable of beating us at full strength when fans have paid to see a competitive Panthers team try and win a new trophy is simply out of order. Whatever Neilson says it's blatantly obvious they weren't taking it seriously. You can harp on about the bigger picture and resting teams for the long haul all you like but the players have barely been in the country five minutes so should fitness really be an issue after four months off and only four weeks back, no. If Neilson seriously thinks he can fob us off with we've lost a battle but lets win the war then he's having a laugh, you didn't go down with all guns blazing in a thriller of a game you got thumped 6-0 by a big rival because the team could barely be arsed and you decided to replace three key players with Brit kids. Would putting the effort in on one sunday afternoon really make a diference to our title challenge? Well the two coaches who've actually won it didn't think so as they reached the final! i said 'well said' about the fickle fans one minute adoring neilson for his efforts and now slating him. with our next league win, most of those fans will have forgotton about this weekend and will want to sodomise him yet again. thats what i was saying 'well said' about.
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Post by Shorty on Oct 5, 2009 13:17:50 GMT
So the rumour I heard about us trying to buy ourselves out of the tournament on Saturday - nobody else has heard or can expand?
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Post by loveday on Oct 5, 2009 13:26:41 GMT
I do hope that Corey thinks things through better next time and does not go by the same strategy as he applied yesterday. He has to think of the fans expectations. I believe he is. The oldest team in the EIHL with the best fans/biggest fan base, yet a team that hasn't won the league for how long? Ask a Steeler or Blaze fan, they love reminding us. In 50 years time will they be going on about how the Panthers haven't won the Mickey Mouse 20/20 Cup? Not likely, it probably wouldn't have existed for 49 years. No he did not think of the fans. How much they all spent in going there. To pick a team how he did and not to play himself. That shows arrogance and expectation of getting through to the next round without putting in the effort. The effort was not there. The embarrassment for the fans was. Hence the Players did not come over to us all. It was at the very least to be a 'fun day' of quick fast and shortened version of the game we all love. To 1000+ Panthers fans who spent their hard earned money and time traveling to Sheffield it was a day wasted and a Coach who did not think his Game Plan out properly. It is not that we mind losing, it is the manner we lost that matters. We are not bothered about in 50 years time. Most of us will not be around then. Now is what matters. Not last Season or next season, but this season. Yes, Coventry and Sheffield kept reminding us yesterday. We do not need you to remind us as well.
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Post by buster on Oct 5, 2009 13:31:03 GMT
are you just sore because you wasted £25?
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