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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2008 8:42:58 GMT
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Will paula win or bottle it ? So by my reckoning Paula should not be in the squad after she quit twice last time. I know it was hot, and I know the course was tough, but still, she should have finished. Or if she was injured not run the 10k (I never did hear what her injury was that made her pull out - exhaustion? She's a marathon runner, for crying out loud. I hope she is tired - its a long way!.) Don't forget the lottery funding she recieved while other athletes - like Michaela, teh weightlifter who competed through the pain barrier, barely able to stand let alone lift weights 'because its the olympics. You don't quit.' probably didnt get anywhere near as much. Paula should be forced to run the distance she didn't run in athens before the start, out of respect to those athletes who do care about the olympic ideal. I don t mind her running, i just don t want to hear any feeble excuse if she loses such as the heat was too much or she picked up a injury, she ll be respected a lot more if she finishes the race no matter what place shes in
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Post by Doughnut on Aug 15, 2008 8:55:26 GMT
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Will paula win or bottle it ? So by my reckoning Paula should not be in the squad after she quit twice last time. I know it was hot, and I know the course was tough, but still, she should have finished. Or if she was injured not run the 10k (I never did hear what her injury was that made her pull out - exhaustion? She's a marathon runner, for crying out loud. I hope she is tired - its a long way!.) Don't forget the lottery funding she recieved while other athletes - like Michaela, teh weightlifter who competed through the pain barrier, barely able to stand let alone lift weights 'because its the olympics. You don't quit.' probably didnt get anywhere near as much. Paula should be forced to run the distance she didn't run in athens before the start, out of respect to those athletes who do care about the olympic ideal. I'm guessing you've never run a marathon. Pushing on when your body is crying out at you that it's had enough is the surest way to injury. It's not like running for a bus you know. Paula deserves her place on the squad if only because she's our best chance at a medal. I've no idea what funding she's had or where from, that's a separate issue.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2008 9:07:07 GMT
Paula should not be in the squad after she quit twice last time. I know it was hot, and I know the course was tough, but still, she should have finished. Or if she was injured not run the 10k (I never did hear what her injury was that made her pull out - exhaustion? She's a marathon runner, for crying out loud. I hope she is tired - its a long way!.) Don't forget the lottery funding she recieved while other athletes - like Michaela, teh weightlifter who competed through the pain barrier, barely able to stand let alone lift weights 'because its the olympics. You don't quit.' probably didnt get anywhere near as much. Paula should be forced to run the distance she didn't run in athens before the start, out of respect to those athletes who do care about the olympic ideal. I'm guessing you've never run a marathon. Pushing on when your body is crying out at you that it's had enough is the surest way to injury. It's not like running for a bus you know. Paula deserves her place on the squad if only because she's our best chance at a medal. I've no idea what funding she's had or where from, that's a separate issue. You should make the decision to race if you are sure enough to finish the race, if shes mentally not up to it, then its time to retire
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Post by Doughnut on Aug 15, 2008 9:10:30 GMT
I'm guessing you've never run a marathon. Pushing on when your body is crying out at you that it's had enough is the surest way to injury. It's not like running for a bus you know. Paula deserves her place on the squad if only because she's our best chance at a medal. I've no idea what funding she's had or where from, that's a separate issue. You should make the decision to race if you are sure enough to finish the race, if shes mentally not up to it, then its time to retire I doubt she'd be racing if she didn't think she could win a medal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2008 9:13:19 GMT
You should make the decision to race if you are sure enough to finish the race, if shes mentally not up to it, then its time to retire I doubt she'd be racing if she didn't think she could win a medal. explain her decison to pull out in athens then?
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Post by Doughnut on Aug 15, 2008 9:15:38 GMT
I doubt she'd be racing if she didn't think she could win a medal. explain her decison to pull out in athens then? From Wikipedia: Radcliffe did not compete in the London Marathon in 2004, but was the favourite to win a gold medal in the marathon at the Olympic Games in Athens. However, she suffered an injury to her leg just two weeks prior to the event and had to use a high dose of anti-inflammatory drugs. This had an adverse effect on her stomach hindering food absorption. The resultant lack of energy and carbohydrates in her system before the start of the race might have led to her distressing withdrawal after 36 km. Five days later she started in the 10,000 metres but, still suffering from the effects of the marathon, retired with eight laps remaining.[18] Radcliffe said "You go through bad stages in a marathon, but never as bad as that", "I've never before not been able to finish and I'm desperately trying to find a reason for what happened", "I just feel numb - this is something I worked so hard for."
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Post by tomtom on Aug 15, 2008 9:39:27 GMT
She's made a few excuses this year before even running the race, but I hope she does herself and us proud
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Post by rangers on Aug 15, 2008 9:50:14 GMT
Paula should not be in the squad after she quit twice last time. I know it was hot, and I know the course was tough, but still, she should have finished. Or if she was injured not run the 10k (I never did hear what her injury was that made her pull out - exhaustion? She's a marathon runner, for crying out loud. I hope she is tired - its a long way!.) Don't forget the lottery funding she recieved while other athletes - like Michaela, teh weightlifter who competed through the pain barrier, barely able to stand let alone lift weights 'because its the olympics. You don't quit.' probably didnt get anywhere near as much. Paula should be forced to run the distance she didn't run in athens before the start, out of respect to those athletes who do care about the olympic ideal. I'm guessing you've never run a marathon. Pushing on when your body is crying out at you that it's had enough is the surest way to injury. It's not like running for a bus you know. Paula deserves her place on the squad if only because she's our best chance at a medal. I've no idea what funding she's had or where from, that's a separate issue. Nope, never ran a marathon. Never taken lottery funding only to quit. twice. Never taken another athletes place in the olympics either, who has a much better chance of finishing the race either. There is one spot for british women in the olympic marathon. Paula, who is not guarenteed to finish, is taking that from another athlete (again, not guarenteed to finish but a better chance). I could give two hoots about whether paula gets a medal, or if her replacement would have got a medal. The olympics to a very large extent are about sportsmanship, the honour of representing your country, not medals. That is why they are valued ahead of events like the world championships. There is no question Paula could have finished in Athens. If she had finished dead last in athens, half an hour behind the others and 8th in china I would have more respect for her than I would if she wins gold in a WR time in China. Remember Derek Redmond? I guess Paula didnt as she cried on the edge of teh track. Twice. Derek went that extra mile. Michaela went that extra mile. Both in absolute agony. That was something to be proud of. I know she couldnt care less, but that is my opinion. the olympics are different. the olympics are special. She devalued that 4 years ago
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2008 9:58:23 GMT
I'm guessing you've never run a marathon. Pushing on when your body is crying out at you that it's had enough is the surest way to injury. It's not like running for a bus you know. Paula deserves her place on the squad if only because she's our best chance at a medal. I've no idea what funding she's had or where from, that's a separate issue. Nope, never ran a marathon. Never taken lottery funding only to quit. twice. Never taken another athletes place in the olympics either, who has a much better chance of finishing the race either. There is one spot for british women in the olympic marathon. Paula, who is not guarenteed to finish, is taking that from another athlete (again, not guarenteed to finish but a better chance). I could give two hoots about whether paula gets a medal, or if her replacement would have got a medal. The olympics to a very large extent are about sportsmanship, the honour of representing your country, not medals. That is why they are valued ahead of events like the world championships. There is no question Paula could have finished in Athens. If she had finished dead last in athens, half an hour behind the others and 8th in china I would have more respect for her than I would if she wins gold in a WR time in China. Remember Derek Redmond? I guess Paula didnt as she cried on the edge of teh track. Twice. Derek went that extra mile. Michaela went that extra mile. Both in absolute agony. That was something to be proud of. I know she couldnt care less, but that is my opinion. the olympics are different. the olympics are special. She devalued that 4 years ago Thats exactly my point Rangers you re saved me a long post lol
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Post by Doughnut on Aug 15, 2008 10:16:38 GMT
I think more people are interested in us winning medals than taking part. Don't get me wrong, if we're not in with a shout of a medal then I love to see an Eddie the Eagle type representing us but if we have someone in with a realistic chance of winning a medal then it should be them who get the place.
For what it's worth we have 3 women entered in the marathon.
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Post by rangers on Aug 15, 2008 10:17:30 GMT
I think more people are interested in us winning medals than taking part. Don't get me wrong, if we're not in with a shout of a medal then I love to see an Eddie the Eagle type representing us but if we have someone in with a realistic chance of winning a medal then it should be them who get the place. For what it's worth we have 3 women entered in the marathon. Appologies to the other 2
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Post by Doughnut on Aug 15, 2008 10:23:40 GMT
I think more people are interested in us winning medals than taking part. Don't get me wrong, if we're not in with a shout of a medal then I love to see an Eddie the Eagle type representing us but if we have someone in with a realistic chance of winning a medal then it should be them who get the place. For what it's worth we have 3 women entered in the marathon. Appologies to the other 2 They both ran in 2004 too, finished 25th and 29th of 66.
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Post by KimThePanther on Aug 15, 2008 11:15:54 GMT
Gold number 3 in the men's Team Sprint at the track cycling!
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Post by rangers on Aug 15, 2008 11:17:20 GMT
Couple of guarenteed medals in the sailing - ainsly aat least a silver, and yngling crew at least a bronze. Both going for gold tomorrow
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Post by tomtom on Aug 15, 2008 11:50:26 GMT
It's looking a bit more promising for us anyway, if we can clean up a few more golds in the cycling and sailing/rowing then it'll start to look a lot better
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 5:48:18 GMT
Becca Adlington storms to a second gold !!!!!
She smashed the world record by 2 secs which has stood for 19 years!
way to go girl
The cycling team have only started , id expect at least 5 golds , with wiggins and Hoy amongst the thick of it, then you have the women cyclists ;D
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Post by KimThePanther on Aug 16, 2008 9:42:45 GMT
Gold for the men in the coxless fours. Up to five now. More to come today you'd hope.
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Post by sunbeam on Aug 16, 2008 14:12:08 GMT
Well done Becky but let's not make too much about the breaking about the WR. Mr Speedo has done a great job which is behind the smashing of records.
Looking forward to see Bolt run flat out.
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Post by Helen B on Aug 16, 2008 18:49:01 GMT
We have a guaranteed gold and silver tomorrow in the Womens Individual Pursuit on the cycling track.
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Post by KimThePanther on Aug 17, 2008 9:42:05 GMT
Will we make the 10 golds? Up to 11 now. Easy peasy. One more and we'd have our biggest gold medal haul since 1920, when 29 nations participated.
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Post by rangers on Aug 17, 2008 10:56:00 GMT
Paula Radcliffe. Hate to say it but I told you so
But the rest of the team seem to be flying.
Yesterday was britains biggest haul for 100 yrs
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2008 11:18:09 GMT
Well before the games started i thought we d make 15 golds pretty comfortable then thought maybe 20 is a good target
But with 4 more gold looking pretty much a cert .
Then the outside chances of our two athletics hopes
But we really have blitzed the world in the veledrome which i thought we would do ;D
Its been a very impressive 7 days and counting!! 3rd in the medal table !! ;D
incidentally some bookies have stopped taking bets on Adlington winning BBC sports personality of the year
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Post by KimThePanther on Aug 17, 2008 12:55:58 GMT
We just got our first ever medal for an apparatus event in the gymnastics too.
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Post by rangers on Aug 17, 2008 13:04:18 GMT
Becca hasn't got that sewn up yet - I'm sure Chris Hoy, Bradley Wiggins and Lewis Hamilton will have something to say about it.
Its overseas I cant decide tho - Bolt, Phelps or Nadal?
Was great to see a Peterborough lad pick up the bronze in th gym. I interviewed his family after his semi final, and from what i heard he seems to have his feet on the ground. a realistic gold medal shout in 4 yrs
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Post by Helen B on Aug 17, 2008 21:54:52 GMT
Was great to see a Peterborough lad pick up the bronze in th gym. I interviewed his family after his semi final, and from what i heard he seems to have his feet on the ground. a realistic gold medal shout in 4 yrs We don't have semi finals in gymnastics. I guess you mean Competition I which is the qualification competition for all the other competitions. From comp I you get the top 8 team for the team comp, the top 24 gymnasts for the all around comp, and then top 8 on each piece for the apparatus finals. If we can qualify a full team in the mens for 2012, then I reckon we have a good chance. This is because the British mens junior team are current European Champions. Just to put the success of Louis Smith into perspective, after the last Olympics the British men had all their funding cut, meaning that Daniel Keatings and Louis Smith have been training without lottery funding, however, after this year I think they will get some funding back.
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