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Post by Shorty on May 29, 2008 7:19:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2008 7:56:03 GMT
Signed.
Lets hope the robbing gits take notice for the first time ever!!!!
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Post by oldman on May 31, 2008 12:45:20 GMT
done it , had a email doing its rounds which suggests we should all boycott the pumps of two main petrol suppliers in this country, I.e. esso and bp, and then they may bring down the prices and others will follow, not sure if you can motivate the whole nation to do this though.
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Post by NottinghamMatt on Jun 6, 2008 6:28:59 GMT
done it , had a email doing its rounds which suggests we should all boycott the pumps of two main petrol suppliers in this country, I.e. esso and bp, and then they may bring down the prices and others will follow, not sure if you can motivate the whole nation to do this though. That the one that advises people to you supermarkets and smaller petrol stations. FYI Esso supply Tesco! |
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jun 6, 2008 18:53:52 GMT
Tesco are a rip off!! I always use either Sainsbury's Daybrook or Castle marina, I never see anywhere cheaper
Signed!!
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Post by oldman on Jun 6, 2008 19:18:41 GMT
maybe ASDA?
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Post by Dan on Jun 8, 2008 0:13:56 GMT
Yeh, that's it. I'm sure they're completely unaware at this moment that the people are unhappy about the price of petrol. A petition by the people will almost certainly bring it down. Good intentions here, but it's never ever going to do anything. Just a waste of your time. Fact is, the government money has to come from somewhere. Tax petrol and fags to high hell, doesn't affect me  |
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Post by ted on Jun 8, 2008 10:24:29 GMT
Fact is, the government money has to come from somewhere. Tax petrol and fags to high hell, doesn't affect me Fags... fair enough... petrol though? How do you think things like food and other essentials are delivered to places.... In lorries.... which need... Diesel. It costs upwards of £700 to fill a lorry compared to £500 this time last year. The hauliers have to pass this on somewhere. Thats often to the buyer who then has to pass it on to the consumer. Not included in that is the fact that oil is used to produce.... well pretty much everything. The high price per barrel has increased production costs on a lot of goods on top of the extra costs for transporting things... Knock on effect of that? People have less money their wallets overall. Economy suffers, even MORE small retailers are forced to close. What are you left with? big chain stores dominating high streets with little to no difference if you shop in Nottingham, Derby, Newcastle, London or Edinburgh. So yea, directly, taxing petrol wont effect you, but its knock on effects most certainly will.... That said, Ive not signed the petition. Like you say I think the government have a pretty good idea what the general feeling is. Online petitions are about as much good as a chocolate teapot |
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Post by Doughnut on Jun 9, 2008 8:45:00 GMT
Asda is currently cheapest in Nottingham for unleaded at 112.9p (Sainsburys went up from 112.9p to 113.9p over the weekend), Tesco is 115.9p which is the same as the average for Nottingham. This is a handy site if you're interested in shopping around with minimum effort www.petrolprices.com/... I want a chocolate tea pot! |
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Post by RBR97 on Jun 10, 2008 0:16:57 GMT
Shell is currently 113.9 matching and being cheaper than some of the supermarkets
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Post by bobness on Jun 10, 2008 11:53:54 GMT
Isn't this all a bit weird when you consider that the tax on a litre of fuel as a % of its cost has fallen over the last year?
Fuel duty went up 2ppl last October.
The tax on a litre of diesel now, at 117.5p a litre is 17.5p VAT and 50.35p duty. 57.7% of the total.
This time last year diesel at the pumps was around 95ppl, duty of 48.35p and VAT of 14.1p. Total 65.7% of the total.
So tax is relatively speaking falling.
Taxation of fuel is not the issue. Basic economic theory and the odd greedy oil company (note obvious tautology there) , coupled with people shutting their minds to the cost of fuel and buying it anyway, pretty much whatever the price, is the problem.
Agreed, online petitions are about as much use as a waterproof teabag.
As Upshall wrote...
Anyone asking for a particular tax to fall should also think which one they'd to raise to recoup the money that the one they cut will not raise for the government. Or find a spending cut which affects no-one.
Frankly, fags should be taxed to high heaven, the cost to the economy, especially the NHS, is incredible.
Booze too. And I say that as a drinker.
Cheap petrol/diesel is not a right.
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Post by oldman on Jun 10, 2008 15:52:45 GMT
Isn't this all a bit weird when you consider that the tax on a litre of fuel as a % of its cost has fallen over the last year? Fuel duty went up 2ppl last October. The tax on a litre of diesel now, at 117.5p a litre is 17.5p VAT and 50.35p duty. 57.7% of the total. This time last year diesel at the pumps was around 95ppl, duty of 48.35p and VAT of 14.1p. Total 65.7% of the total. So tax is relatively speaking falling. Taxation of fuel is not the issue. Basic economic theory and the odd greedy oil company (note obvious tautology there) , coupled with people shutting their minds to the cost of fuel and buying it anyway, pretty much whatever the price, is the problem. Agreed, online petitions are about as much use as a waterproof teabag. As Upshall wrote... Anyone asking for a particular tax to fall should also think which one they'd to raise to recoup the money that the one they cut will not raise for the government. Or find a spending cut which affects no-one. Frankly, fags should be taxed to high heaven, the cost to the economy, especially the NHS, is incredible. Booze too. And I say that as a drinker. Cheap petrol/diesel is not a right. do you work in public transport,? the price of fuel affects everything from the price of food to clothes and including the people who might switch from their car to the pretty poor bus service in this area to ease their fuel costs! |
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Post by ted on Jun 10, 2008 16:08:36 GMT
why isnt cheap fuel a right?
Id say reliance on petrol for... well pretty much everything now days MAKES it a right.
Yea it hardly ranks up there with food and water but for many people its pretty essential
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Post by sunbeam on Jun 10, 2008 16:30:20 GMT
Isn't this all a bit weird when you consider that the tax on a litre of fuel as a % of its cost has fallen over the last year? Fuel duty went up 2ppl last October. The tax on a litre of diesel now, at 117.5p a litre is 17.5p VAT and 50.35p duty. 57.7% of the total. This time last year diesel at the pumps was around 95ppl, duty of 48.35p and VAT of 14.1p. Total 65.7% of the total. So tax is relatively speaking falling. Taxation of fuel is not the issue. Basic economic theory and the odd greedy oil company (note obvious tautology there) , coupled with people shutting their minds to the cost of fuel and buying it anyway, pretty much whatever the price, is the problem. Agreed, online petitions are about as much use as a waterproof teabag. As Upshall wrote... Anyone asking for a particular tax to fall should also think which one they'd to raise to recoup the money that the one they cut will not raise for the government. Or find a spending cut which affects no-one. Frankly, fags should be taxed to high heaven, the cost to the economy, especially the NHS, is incredible. Booze too. And I say that as a drinker. Cheap petrol/diesel is not a right. The tax was too high last year too. And the year before that. The excuse for high taxes was for green reasons. It was said the price needed to be high to discourage car use. The Gov't rose the price to the 80p mark to attain its aim. Now the price is 115p. Quite clearly the price is way higher then the Gov't felt necessary so thus it can cut the price. If not then we all knowo it had FA to do with the environment and was merely a money making issue. As for raising fag taxes to high heaven - that's good news for the Spanish treasury. Already the majority of rolling baccy smoked in the UK is not sold in the UK. More self-defeating economics. Why don't we raise income tax to 98% like in the 1970s again why we're at it?  As for the 'money has to come from somewhere' line: How about not wasting billions of pounds on stupid things?? Why are there 4 million people without jobs in the UK? And how much money is the Gov't coining from the VAT on fuel that has rocketed as well as the North Sea oil windfall? Meanwhile the country slips nearer to stagflation. Get ready for a lot of pain. |
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