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Post by Rio on Jul 5, 2006 10:56:35 GMT
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Post by P.G.F.I. on Jul 5, 2006 12:10:07 GMT
Woah, some people hate him on there.  |
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Post by Rio on Jul 5, 2006 12:12:33 GMT
Lol have you seen the t-shirts? Some people do go out their way |
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Post by ted on Jul 5, 2006 12:39:13 GMT
We dont want a scapegoat. It just so happens that the guy who contributed to us being knocked out we hate him and blame him rather than a inadequate, average at best squad.
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Post by P.G.F.I. on Jul 5, 2006 12:40:48 GMT
Lol, You seen that Carlsburg one. ;D  Wonder how many t-shirts they sell, might have to start a business. |
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Post by Rio on Jul 5, 2006 12:41:36 GMT
Lol, You seen that Carlsburg one. ;D Wonder how many t-shirts they sell, might have to start a business. Bet it will turn out to be a good little money earner lmao!!!  |
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Post by NevesMetro on Jul 5, 2006 12:54:37 GMT
We dont want a scapegoat. It just so happens that the guy who contributed to us being knocked out we hate him and blame him rather than a inadequate, average at best squad. or blaming a guy who STAMPED on an opponent and deservedly got sent off. |
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Post by ted on Jul 5, 2006 14:09:15 GMT
of course i forgot about that... Im not sure the stamp was deliberate but the push sure was. And wasnt it the push he actually got sent off for?
If he was mature enough to be picked for the squad he should have been mature enough to hold his temper
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Post by newham on Jul 5, 2006 14:19:57 GMT
We dont want a scapegoat. It just so happens that the guy who contributed to us being knocked out we hate him and blame him rather than a inadequate, average at best squad. or blaming a guy who STAMPED on an opponent and deservedly got sent off. What is your definition of the word 'stamp' Neves...? |
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Post by NevesMetro on Jul 5, 2006 14:30:38 GMT
or blaming a guy who STAMPED on an opponent and deservedly got sent off. What is your definition of the word 'stamp' Neves...? My definiton for stamp (on a football field) is deliberately treading on someone. Which in my eyes he clearly did. |
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Post by ted on Jul 5, 2006 14:44:16 GMT
im not sure, I think he was getting slowly bogged down by about 3 men.
But the ref was going to do nothing then he pushed ronaldo and the red card was out immediately.
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Post by NevesMetro on Jul 5, 2006 14:52:29 GMT
im not sure, I think he was getting slowly bogged down by about 3 men. But the ref was going to do nothing then he pushed ronaldo and the red card was out immediately. Just a quote from The Times. Not trying to prove anything either way. Speaking to The Times outside his hotel in Frankfurt, Elizondo, the Argentinian Ref in charge of England’s quarter- final defeat, confirmed that he sent off Rooney for lashing out with his boot and catching the defender in the groin, not for the 20-year-old’s push on Ronaldo. “It was violent play and therefore he got a red card,” Elizondo said. |
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Post by belak on Jul 5, 2006 15:13:09 GMT
Personally speaking, I don't think Rooney stamped on the Portuguese player, trod on him certainly, but even then was it intentional?
I don't think it was violent behaivour, no more violent than shoving Ronaldo out of the way when he came charging over bleating about it being a foul.
Rooney didn't help his cause with pushing the guy out of the way right infront of the referee, but Ronaldo showed a distinct lack of sportsmanship in demanding the re do something.
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Post by newham on Jul 7, 2006 23:45:50 GMT
What is your definition of the word 'stamp' Neves...? My definiton for stamp (on a football field) is deliberately treading on someone. Which in my eyes he clearly did. Have you seen the video again? His eyes never leave the ball and he clearly has no balance. If he intended it, he'd also put much more weight behind it like he has done in the past when he loses his temper. It's not bias, i've looked at this through neutral-eyes. If he played for Brazil or even Germany i'd think the same. The push deserved a yellow if we're being strict, but the first incident was entirely accidental. |
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Post by Rio on Jul 7, 2006 23:53:05 GMT
Yeah i agree ;D
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Post by DaveE on Jul 9, 2006 14:58:20 GMT
I don't believe that the stamp was intentional at all. He was getting pushed around all over the place, whilst trying to claim the ball for himself. It was no wonder he stood on someone with the rate at which he was moving. As Newham says, his eyes never leave the ball, and once he realises what he has done, he turns to Carvaliho (or however you spell it) looking concerned. This is why I believe he was infuriated after when Ronaldo came charging in with the intent to get him sent off.
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Post by David on Jul 9, 2006 15:07:48 GMT
My definiton for stamp (on a football field) is deliberately treading on someone. Which in my eyes he clearly did. Have you seen the video again? His eyes never leave the ball and he clearly has no balance. If he intended it, he'd also put much more weight behind it like he has done in the past when he loses his temper. It's not bias, i've looked at this through neutral-eyes. If he played for Brazil or even Germany i'd think the same. The push deserved a yellow if we're being strict, but the first incident was entirely accidental. Any why did he lose his balance? Because he was losing his balance by being fouled! |
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Post by newham on Jul 10, 2006 14:12:03 GMT
Exactly, great refereeing |
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