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Post by dodit on Mar 1, 2006 19:24:05 GMT
end of day 1 england 246-7
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Post by gopanthers on Mar 2, 2006 23:00:04 GMT
we did well to get to 393 but now it looks like it may get overhauled - india only 255 runs behind with 9 wickets in hand
why oh why did we play crosse and blackwell - he is no way test quality
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Post by newham on Mar 2, 2006 23:21:44 GMT
Give him a chance fella, the man had some good warm-up performances. This will be a draw unless there's a miracle. India will need a good 500 to really press the result.
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Post by gopanthers on Mar 4, 2006 11:48:39 GMT
going well in the second inns
cook has just got to his 100
not bad for a debut - 60 in 1st inns, 100 in 2nd
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Post by newham on Mar 4, 2006 15:45:19 GMT
Well, this is either going to be a draw or an England victory, they won't get 350+ in the fourth innings. Can i just sit here smugly saying that i 'called' Cook for England?
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Post by sunbeam on Mar 5, 2006 20:51:54 GMT
Well, this is either going to be a draw or an England victory, they won't get 350+ in the fourth innings. Can i just sit here smugly saying that i 'called' Cook for England? So who would you drop, Tresco, Strauss or Vaughan? England's team is starting to take shape for the Ashes thanks to injuries. In the batting we have Tres, Straussy, Cooky, Vaughany, KP, Belly and Colly competing for 5 slots. In the seam bowling we have Hoggy, Harmi, Jonesy, Jimmy and Plunketty competing for 3 slots. That's good competition and leaves two problem areas, spin and keeping. Two more drops show that GJones is not up to it. His contribution with the bat is little better than a normal keeper/batter but he's supposed to be a batter/keeper. He has to go before the Ashes. For Eng to become a great team we need a proper spinner. Thank the gods that Freddy is skipper and not Giles' best mate. Monty has already shown he's could be very special and his innings showed that he can hold a bat too. Monty should now be our 5th bowler. Team to play 1st test down under: 1-2 - Tresco/Strauss/Cook 3-5 - Cook/Vaughan/KP/Bell/Collingwood # 6 - Freddy # 7 - Prior/Read/Foster 8-10 Plunkett/Harmison/Jones/Hoggard/Anderson #11- Monty. Skippered by Vaughan if he makes the side.
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Post by Higgy on Mar 5, 2006 23:04:48 GMT
Yeh i agree about Monty, its no surprise that he's asian and thus a good spinner, we just dont get them of natural english decent for some reason
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Post by newham on Mar 6, 2006 0:38:41 GMT
Well, this is either going to be a draw or an England victory, they won't get 350+ in the fourth innings. Can i just sit here smugly saying that i 'called' Cook for England? So who would you drop, Tresco, Strauss or Vaughan? England's team is starting to take shape for the Ashes thanks to injuries. In the batting we have Tres, Straussy, Cooky, Vaughany, KP, Belly and Colly competing for 5 slots. In the seam bowling we have Hoggy, Harmi, Jonesy, Jimmy and Plunketty competing for 3 slots. That's good competition and leaves two problem areas, spin and keeping. Two more drops show that GJones is not up to it. His contribution with the bat is little better than a normal keeper/batter but he's supposed to be a batter/keeper. He has to go before the Ashes. For Eng to become a great team we need a proper spinner. Thank the gods that Freddy is skipper and not Giles' best mate. Monty has already shown he's could be very special and his innings showed that he can hold a bat too. Monty should now be our 5th bowler. Team to play 1st test down under: 1-2 - Tresco/Strauss/Cook 3-5 - Cook/Vaughan/KP/Bell/Collingwood # 6 - Freddy # 7 - Prior/Read/Foster 8-10 Plunkett/Harmison/Jones/Hoggard/Anderson #11- Monty. Skippered by Vaughan if he makes the side. You can't drop Tres, Strauss or Vaughan can you? Cook is so unlucky. Maybe the injury to Vaughan will make the decision for them, who knows? Colly has impressed me so much, he's the paced batsman we need, certainly a good replacement for Bell if he doesn't begin to impress more than once a year. As for a lack of depth in the spin department, why do we need any? The Windies team of years back (to my knowledge, may well be wrong though) dominated without a spinner of any kop. We have the potential to have a pace attack even more immense than that. As for keeping, Read and Prior will do me fine.
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Post by sunbeam on Mar 6, 2006 2:17:56 GMT
So who would you drop, Tresco, Strauss or Vaughan? England's team is starting to take shape for the Ashes thanks to injuries. In the batting we have Tres, Straussy, Cooky, Vaughany, KP, Belly and Colly competing for 5 slots. In the seam bowling we have Hoggy, Harmi, Jonesy, Jimmy and Plunketty competing for 3 slots. That's good competition and leaves two problem areas, spin and keeping. Two more drops show that GJones is not up to it. His contribution with the bat is little better than a normal keeper/batter but he's supposed to be a batter/keeper. He has to go before the Ashes. For Eng to become a great team we need a proper spinner. Thank the gods that Freddy is skipper and not Giles' best mate. Monty has already shown he's could be very special and his innings showed that he can hold a bat too. Monty should now be our 5th bowler. Team to play 1st test down under: 1-2 - Tresco/Strauss/Cook 3-5 - Cook/Vaughan/KP/Bell/Collingwood # 6 - Freddy # 7 - Prior/Read/Foster 8-10 Plunkett/Harmison/Jones/Hoggard/Anderson #11- Monty. Skippered by Vaughan if he makes the side. You can't drop Tres, Strauss or Vaughan can you? Cook is so unlucky. Maybe the injury to Vaughan will make the decision for them, who knows? Colly has impressed me so much, he's the paced batsman we need, certainly a good replacement for Bell if he doesn't begin to impress more than once a year. As for a lack of depth in the spin department, why do we need any? The Windies team of years back (to my knowledge, may well be wrong though) dominated without a spinner of any kop. We have the potential to have a pace attack even more immense than that. As for keeping, Read and Prior will do me fine. Colly has done well but he would not make my Eng XI if everyone is fit. We do not have a pace attack anywhere near as good as what the WIndies had. Marshall, Garner, Croft, Holding, Ambrose, Roberts and Walsh were exceptional. Our bowlers work well as a unit but most team's fast bowlers today are poor compared to what they had in the 80 or early 90s. Yes the WIndies dominated without a spinner but even they struggled on the sub-continent. If the track is flat you have to have a spinner to provide a different option. That's why Australia finally won in India. The Aussies could simply try to prepare spinning tracks for the Ashes if we go there relying on quicks. Don't forget qiucks frequently break down and England have to play India, SL, Pakistan, ICC Trophy, Ashes and the World Cup in the next 13 months. We're bound to get more injuries, especially if we don't have a spinner to lighten the load. Monty is the missing link. If Prior can keep well enough than he could be Eng's #7 for years to come. He's a bit leg-sided but he is a decent bat. Akmal and Dhoni are the continuation of what Gilchrist began and that's what Fletcher is looking for. Not that I'm suggesting Prior is in Dhoni's class.
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Post by ben68 on Mar 7, 2006 22:21:25 GMT
this always happens when we play in places like india get a load of ill players cus of the conditions... ohh well they cant help it
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Post by sunbeam on Mar 13, 2006 19:14:43 GMT
Well and truly beaten in less than 4 days of cricket.
Some things you can guarantee: death, taxes and Geraint Jones failing with the bat when runs are most needed.
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Post by newham on Mar 15, 2006 21:03:23 GMT
He fails even when the runs aren't needed sunny, the man is the cricketing equivalent of Sven. He's had more chances than the monopoly hat.
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Post by sunbeam on Mar 16, 2006 13:02:50 GMT
I think South Africa's bubble has burst! 140-7 after 3 hours.
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Post by sunbeam on Mar 20, 2006 13:33:21 GMT
England are in a strong position from here. India may need Sachin to prove he's not past it when they bat.
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Post by newham on Mar 21, 2006 21:19:30 GMT
I don't know if we're in the lead here or whether it's 50/50. The first hour tomorrow will decide the series. I'm certainly getting up for it!
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Post by Adam on Mar 22, 2006 3:54:11 GMT
I don't know if we're in the lead here or whether it's 50/50. The first hour tomorrow will decide the series. I'm certainly getting up for it! Same here and as you can see i'm up for it!
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Post by Higgy on Mar 22, 2006 12:59:02 GMT
Great bowling performance from England, nic to see the young team finally click on the sub continent
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Post by sunbeam on Mar 22, 2006 13:11:43 GMT
Very good performance by Eng. Rank amateurish by India. They played an extra batter when they only needed to draw and then chose to field instead of bat. And their batting and bowling and fielding was sloppy.
India have the most talented squad in the world and wasted it. Chappell has some work to do.
The ODIs should be good from here.
England now know they have more options when picking a side. Shah looked England's best batsman in the test.
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Post by newham on Mar 23, 2006 21:45:52 GMT
Fully agree Sunny, the entire performance bordered on the embarassing. Dhoni's dismissal was a perfect example. Commits hari-kari one ball and somehow survives and then does exactly the same thing two balls later! What a moron, he won't have many friends at the moment....
Special mention to PC, he's been excellent throughout the tour. Sold his wicket at a dear price in every innings and unless my memory serves me wrong, he finishes with the highest average for someone who played the entire series?
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Post by sunbeam on Mar 25, 2006 12:41:36 GMT
Our ability to lose ODI's from good positions is astonishing.
A good warm-up still I guess. Bar the losing bit!
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Post by sunbeam on Apr 3, 2006 11:52:49 GMT
England soundly thrashed again by India.
To think we're in a group with India, Aus and a qualifier for the ICC Trophy in Oct/Nov. The qualifier will probably be SL or the WI. We've got no chance.
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Post by newham on Apr 3, 2006 20:45:12 GMT
Sunny, it is grim until you look at the side. Who exactly wouldn't get thrashed when they're missing players of the quality of Trescothick, Vaughan, Pietersen, Harmison, Hoggard and Jones? Our injury crisis has made this ODI series a forgone conclusion.
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Post by sunbeam on Apr 4, 2006 0:02:23 GMT
Sunny, it is grim until you look at the side. Who exactly wouldn't get thrashed when they're missing players of the quality of Trescothick, Vaughan, Pietersen, Harmison, Hoggard and Jones? Our injury crisis has made this ODI series a forgone conclusion. Hoggard and Jones do not play in the OD team. Vaughan's spot is in doubt too. And we've blown in ODI's for years now. Our World Cup team is: Tres, Strauss, Vaughan, KP, Freddy, Colly, Jones, Blackwell, Plunkett/Kabir/Jones, Harmison, Anderson.
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Post by Higgy on Apr 4, 2006 13:54:34 GMT
Does anyone else find it odd how many injuries and illnesses the English team have had whilst in Asia, im sure other touring teams over there havent suffered similar fates of this magnitude?
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