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Post by newham on May 8, 2005 16:02:39 GMT
Now, i certainly don't like Galloway at all, and Paxman isn't particularily high on my favourite people but this was great entertainment. Two fullygrown politicians making themselves look like children on national television. Paxman was well out of line with his questioning and i think Galloway fielded it quite well really, it doesn't make his racial aggravation down there right though, what he's done is despicable. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/england/4520121.stm# |
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Post by deutscherhockey on May 9, 2005 17:55:06 GMT
I saw this too and it was great to watch. Paxman kicked off trying to rile up Galloway who certainly took the bait. On balance I think galloway won because he was quite prepared to walk away since he doesn't need Paxman but Paxman needed him. As to "what galloway has done" it seems to me that he stood for election and got people to vote for him.
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Post by girdeaux on May 12, 2005 18:16:21 GMT
" Mr Galloway, who attacked Tony Blair in his acceptance speech, fought on an anti-Iraq war manifesto that appealed to the large local Muslim population." Sure, cos' the War in Iraq was one based upon Western Christianity Vs Islam  |
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Post by andyd on May 12, 2005 18:24:10 GMT
You're right Skywarp. I find this really hard to deal with. The war in Iraq had nothing to do with Christianity v Islam, Galloway's campaign appealed to everyone who disagreed with war full stop as well as anyone who was anti Blair. As a Christian working full time with students this is a really unhelpful and untrue perception, which I have to field lots of responses to on campuses, given out by the meida which only serves to further drive a wedge between Islam and "The West". It gives Muslims a perception that Christianity is simply "The West" which is also a falacy, I have to take so much time helping people unpack the fact that Christianity is for anyone and just because people are western they are not automatically Christians.  |
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Post by girdeaux on May 12, 2005 18:27:15 GMT
You're right Skywarp. I find this really hard to deal with. The war in Iraq had nothing to do with Christianity v Islam, Galloway's campaign appealed to everyone who disagreed with war full stop as well as anyone who was anti Blair. As a Christian working full time with students this is a really unhelpful and untrue perception given out by the meida which only serves to further drive a wedge between Islam and "The West". I certainly don't think President Bush helped matters on that score, with his pseudo-religious speeches. Plus the " Land of the Free" isn't that free in places...Homosexuality is banned in a fair chunk of States. I'm not an advocate of Gay rights by any stretch of the imagination, but I think it's wrong for those Gay men & women to be in a sense, outlawed... |
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Post by andyd on May 12, 2005 18:32:23 GMT
Again I know what you mean, Bush certainly made mistakes on that score.
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Post by MP on May 12, 2005 22:15:00 GMT
" Sure, cos' the War in Iraq was one based upon Western Christianity Vs Islam
Hmmmm. There might have been a bit of that as window dressing but I suspect oil supplies and wounded family pride were the main motivations. |
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Post by deutscherhockey on May 13, 2005 8:10:33 GMT
" Mr Galloway, who attacked Tony Blair in his acceptance speech, fought on an anti-Iraq war manifesto that appealed to the large local Muslim population." Sure, cos' the War in Iraq was one based upon Western Christianity Vs Islam If I lived in Iraq might I not SIMPLY think this? Might I not also equate the two? Christianity AS CULTURE (not as belief or religion necessarily) certainly can be perceived as western. Plus, none of the "western" countries are led by muslims or are muslim compared to somewhere like Pakistan or, say, Iraq. Iraqis don't think these things for nothing even if we think they are wrong. |
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Post by girdeaux on May 13, 2005 15:18:00 GMT
Hmmmm. There might have been a bit of that as window dressing but I suspect oil supplies and wounded family pride were the main motivations. Oil is essential for modern life. Period. *shrug* |
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Post by girdeaux on May 13, 2005 15:18:57 GMT
If I lived in Iraq might I not SIMPLY think this? Might I not also equate the two? Christianity AS CULTURE (not as belief or religion necessarily) certainly can be perceived as western. Plus, none of the "western" countries are led by muslims or are muslim compared to somewhere like Pakistan or, say, Iraq. Iraqis don't think these things for nothing even if we think they are wrong. The article isn't refering to Iraqi Muslims |
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Post by newham on May 15, 2005 14:28:24 GMT
well, the fact is that Galloway has gone down there and used the war to stir up tension between the white and asian society. The war wasn't really about Christianity vs Islam but Galloway portrayed it to be so and this has resulted in his constituency becoming a dangerous area to live in.
Sure, he won and yes he played the game perfectly but what he did was despicable. In todays day and age where we're trying to eradicate the racial gap this shouldnt be allowed to happen.
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