|
Post by awooga on Mar 27, 2024 10:27:34 GMT
Kelsall sometimes gets an unfair slating and I'm not sure why. He isn't a 'goalscorer' but can certainly score when given the opportunity, he works hard on practically every shift, he's a great utility player, he's played what seems like a 50/50 split between forward and defence this season, and hasn't looked out of place in either position. He sticks up for his teammates when something happens like that (he shouldn't need to, we should have tougher players but thats another discussion) however having the heart to do that gets my respect. He also occasionally throws the odd solid hit himself which, for his size, is again impressive. Genuinely think he'd get into any team in the EIHL with what he brings. Very lucky to have him. Have to agree. Definitely one to keep.
|
|
|
Post by bobness on Mar 27, 2024 10:47:42 GMT
Had the opportunity to upgrade to Farmer/Boxill in 13/14, and did so. Decisions like that are made in sport all the time. IIWII. Heart and soul yes, but the facts are that 70 league, cup and playoff games passed without a single goal that season. I'm sure you'd be all over a player with those kind of stats these days, no matter how much he grafted?
And I don't think anyone has "sacked" Kelsall yet?
|
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,422
|
Post by iginla on Mar 27, 2024 10:51:23 GMT
Decisions like that are made in sport all the time. And I don't think anyone has sacked Kelsall yet? Not often they aren’t,maybe in Belfast. 😉
|
|
|
Post by jd on Mar 27, 2024 11:12:06 GMT
Had the opportunity to upgrade to Farmer/Boxill in 13/14, and did so. Decisions like that are made in sport all the time. IIWII. Heart and soul yes, but the facts are that 70 league, cup and playoff games passed without a single goal that season. I'm sure you'd be all over a player with those kind of stats these days, no matter how much he grafted? And I don't think anyone has "sacked" Kelsall yet? Corey also made the decision to sack Meyers and get Weaver - which seemed very harsh at the time but worked out ok in the end Levers was a good player but like you say, 0 points and he went down a league after that.
|
|
DMS
Robert Lachowicz
Posts: 578
|
Post by DMS on Mar 27, 2024 11:34:12 GMT
Had the opportunity to upgrade to Farmer/Boxill in 13/14, and did so. Decisions like that are made in sport all the time. IIWII. Heart and soul yes, but the facts are that 70 league, cup and playoff games passed without a single goal that season. I'm sure you'd be all over a player with those kind of stats these days, no matter how much he grafted? And I don't think anyone has "sacked" Kelsall yet? Corey also made the decision to sack Meyers and get Weaver - which seemed very harsh at the time but worked out ok in the end Levers was a good player but like you say, 0 points and he went down a league after that. My understanding is it was DM choice to leave as opposed to a panthers choice … either way it worked out really well for us!
|
|
The Flying Shirt
Paul Adey
Adam #7 #47 - Forever #1
Posts: 6,629
Member is Online
|
Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 27, 2024 11:36:05 GMT
Corey also made the decision to sack Meyers and get Weaver - which seemed very harsh at the time but worked out ok in the end Levers was a good player but like you say, 0 points and he went down a league after that. My understanding is it was DM choice to leave as opposed to a panthers choice … either way it worked out really well for us! No it definitely wasn’t
|
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,422
|
Post by iginla on Mar 27, 2024 12:13:39 GMT
Had the opportunity to upgrade to Farmer/Boxill in 13/14, and did so. Decisions like that are made in sport all the time. IIWII. Heart and soul yes, but the facts are that 70 league, cup and playoff games passed without a single goal that season. I'm sure you'd be all over a player with those kind of stats these days, no matter how much he grafted? And I don't think anyone has "sacked" Kelsall yet? Corey also made the decision to sack Meyers and get Weaver - which seemed very harsh at the time but worked out ok in the end Levers was a good player but like you say, 0 points and he went down a league after that. Corey didn’t sack Meyers,he was told he had to go by the club hierarchy for an indiscretion just like Levers was.
|
|
|
Post by jd on Mar 27, 2024 12:54:41 GMT
Corey also made the decision to sack Meyers and get Weaver - which seemed very harsh at the time but worked out ok in the end Levers was a good player but like you say, 0 points and he went down a league after that. Corey didn’t sack Meyers,he was told he had to go by the club hierarchy for an indiscretion just like Levers was. So why did you say it was Corey's decision to sack Levers?! "Yes rather reminiscent of Marc Levers. An under rated player who always gave his all,wins the league then gets sacked,what a great decision by Corey ! 🙄"
|
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,422
|
Post by iginla on Mar 27, 2024 13:34:48 GMT
Corey didn’t sack Meyers,he was told he had to go by the club hierarchy for an indiscretion just like Levers was. So why did you say it was Corey's decision to sack Levers?! "Yes rather reminiscent of Marc Levers. An under rated player who always gave his all,wins the league then gets sacked,what a great decision by Corey ! 🙄" Because Corey did sack Levers,the club sacked Meyers.
|
|
|
Post by jd on Mar 27, 2024 13:39:00 GMT
"Corey didn’t sack Meyers, he was told he had to go by the club hierarchy for an indiscretion just like Levers was"
So Levers wasn't told to go then?
|
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,422
|
Post by iginla on Mar 27, 2024 13:45:39 GMT
"Corey didn’t sack Meyers, he was told he had to go by the club hierarchy for an indiscretion just like Levers was" So Levers wasn't told to go then? Your splitting wording hairs again JD,I’ve told you they were both sacked. One by the club and the other by Corey.
|
|
|
Post by jd on Mar 27, 2024 13:53:27 GMT
"Corey didn’t sack Meyers, he was told he had to go by the club hierarchy for an indiscretion just like Levers was" So Levers wasn't told to go then? Your splitting wording hairs again JD,I’ve told you they were both sacked. One by the club and the other by Corey. Just wanted clarification again Iggy, your initial posts weren't clear again.
|
|
shinobi
Randall Weber
Forum Dictator
Posts: 4,721
|
Post by shinobi on Mar 27, 2024 14:44:24 GMT
Corey also made the decision to sack Meyers and get Weaver - which seemed very harsh at the time but worked out ok in the end Levers was a good player but like you say, 0 points and he went down a league after that. Corey didn’t sack Meyers,he was told he had to go by the club hierarchy for an indiscretion just like Levers was. Who cares. Weaver was an upgrade & the team won a few trophies.
|
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,422
|
Post by iginla on Mar 27, 2024 14:49:37 GMT
Corey didn’t sack Meyers,he was told he had to go by the club hierarchy for an indiscretion just like Levers was. Who cares. Weaver was an upgrade & the team won a few trophies. Indeed it was a great move. Swopped one who thought he was way better than he was for arguably one of the top Brits to have ever played in the EIHL. Weaver was a huge part of that 2012/13 Panthers team,a cracking player.
|
|
The Flying Shirt
Paul Adey
Adam #7 #47 - Forever #1
Posts: 6,629
Member is Online
|
Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 27, 2024 15:08:20 GMT
Corey didn’t sack Meyers,he was told he had to go by the club hierarchy for an indiscretion just like Levers was. Who cares. Weaver was an upgrade & the team won a few trophies. Danny did. The big “Panthers” tattoo on his arm hadn’t even healed 😁
|
|
|
Post by pantherlee on Mar 27, 2024 16:55:36 GMT
Neither were “sacked” were they?! They didn’t have their contracts renewed. There is a difference.
|
|
|
Post by Bagheera on Mar 27, 2024 17:47:18 GMT
Kelsall sometimes gets an unfair slating and I'm not sure why. He isn't a 'goalscorer' but can certainly score when given the opportunity, he works hard on practically every shift, he's a great utility player, he's played what seems like a 50/50 split between forward and defence this season, and hasn't looked out of place in either position. He sticks up for his teammates when something happens like that (he shouldn't need to, we should have tougher players but thats another discussion) however having the heart to do that gets my respect. He also occasionally throws the odd solid hit himself which, for his size, is again impressive. Genuinely think he'd get into any team in the EIHL with what he brings. Very lucky to have him. I meant to come and post something very similar and then forgot. Even at the beggining of this season you could've argued he was upgradable(of course he is in theory), but he probably been our best Brit over the course of the whole season, only challenged by Hazeldine since his arrival. If let's say Perlini or Cade Neilson became available now who would you let go out of the Brits? Let's assume Tetlow would go first, but we are already one over so one more would go to just be at the limit. I'd certainly be keeping Kelsall who gives his all and shows 100% commitment over some less commited individuals.
|
|
|
Post by wgray on Mar 27, 2024 18:07:28 GMT
I might get a bit of stick here, but I haven’t been overly impressed with Kelsall personally. I was hoping that we were going to see major improvements in his overall play this season but I don’t feel he’s been that great.
I’ll give him his credit, he has helped out and filled in on defence to support the team, he’s stood up for teammates and that takes a lot of guts, he’s even scored a few nice goals this season.
Overall though, I think he lacks size and physicality and he’s quite a slow skater. Even if he’s playing 4th line I feel he should be bringing more energy and making more of a nuisance of himself. I notice regularly he’ll lay a hit without any real impact and their defence will break out easily or he’ll often chip a puck in and not pursue it or put the opposition under pressure.
Maybe I’m being harsh, and there’s obviously tactics and instructions we aren’t privy to, but I just feel we need to see more from him. He needs to flourish and develop, in a similar way that Ollie did, if he’s going to be the player we need him to be
|
|
shinobi
Randall Weber
Forum Dictator
Posts: 4,721
|
Post by shinobi on Mar 27, 2024 18:10:05 GMT
Who cares. Weaver was an upgrade & the team won a few trophies. Danny did. The big “Panthers” tattoo on his arm hadn’t even healed 😁 I’m sure he was fine. Won a league title the next season.
|
|
shinobi
Randall Weber
Forum Dictator
Posts: 4,721
|
Post by shinobi on Mar 27, 2024 18:14:08 GMT
Who cares. Weaver was an upgrade & the team won a few trophies. Indeed it was a great move. Swopped one who thought he was way better than he was for arguably one of the top Brits to have ever played in the EIHL. Weaver was a huge part of that 2012/13 Panthers team,a cracking player. I recall the day the news broke. Pantherland went mental.
|
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,422
|
Post by iginla on Mar 27, 2024 18:49:25 GMT
Danny did. The big “Panthers” tattoo on his arm hadn’t even healed 😁 I’m sure he was fine. Won a league title the next season. No he missed a league title,his last year of six years at Panthers was 11/12 and Panthers won the Grand Slam the following year when Danny was at Sheffield. Didn’t last long there though,they soon worked him out. 🤣
|
|
rexkramer
Jade Galbraith
Posts: 148
Member is Online
|
Post by rexkramer on Mar 27, 2024 19:24:48 GMT
Kelsall sometimes gets an unfair slating and I'm not sure why. He isn't a 'goalscorer' but can certainly score when given the opportunity, he works hard on practically every shift, he's a great utility player, he's played what seems like a 50/50 split between forward and defence this season, and hasn't looked out of place in either position. He sticks up for his teammates when something happens like that (he shouldn't need to, we should have tougher players but thats another discussion) however having the heart to do that gets my respect. He also occasionally throws the odd solid hit himself which, for his size, is again impressive. Genuinely think he'd get into any team in the EIHL with what he brings. Very lucky to have him. I meant to come and post something very similar and then forgot. Even at the beggining of this season you could've argued he was upgradable(of course he is in theory), but he probably been our best Brit over the course of the whole season, only challenged by Hazeldine since his arrival. If let's say Perlini or Cade Neilson became available now who would you let go out of the Brits? Let's assume Tetlow would go first, but we are already one over so one more would go to just be at the limit. I'd certainly be keeping Kelsall who gives his all and shows 100% commitment over soembody who prolongs their injury lay off when fit to play. That's a fairly loaded last paragraph. In general I'm in favour of Kelsall, does whatever he's asked, always committed and checks in with a highlight reel goal or two per season (and that assist recently was pretty special).
|
|
shinobi
Randall Weber
Forum Dictator
Posts: 4,721
|
Post by shinobi on Mar 28, 2024 16:30:58 GMT
I’m sure he was fine. Won a league title the next season. No he missed a league title,his last year of six years at Panthers was 11/12 and Panthers won the Grand Slam the following year when Danny was at Sheffield. Didn’t last long there though,they soon worked him out. 🤣 I always thought Sheffield won it the following year 😂 Oh well. Guess he missed out on two titles 😂
|
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,422
|
Post by iginla on Mar 28, 2024 17:02:15 GMT
No he missed a league title,his last year of six years at Panthers was 11/12 and Panthers won the Grand Slam the following year when Danny was at Sheffield. Didn’t last long there though,they soon worked him out. 🤣 I always thought Sheffield won it the following year 😂 Oh well. Guess he missed out on two titles 😂 He did miss two league titles yes,exited Panthers and they won it the following year,then he left Steelers and they won it the next year too. A bit of a pattern there ! Lol 🤣
|
|
shinobi
Randall Weber
Forum Dictator
Posts: 4,721
|
Post by shinobi on Mar 28, 2024 17:34:04 GMT
Weaver was top drawer. Massive upgrade that served Panthers well.
|
|