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Post by ashfieldpanther on Nov 3, 2023 13:05:55 GMT
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Post by blackpanther2011 on Nov 3, 2023 14:55:39 GMT
Sadly with any sort of death even its accidental, inquests have to be held rightfully or wrongly and this will be seen as wrongly timed but its just the way these things go. I respect and hope the right call is made in the end.
However with this coming out, It will increase the vile troll presence online and I repeat this, Please continue to be united as ONE Community and must stick together everyone and please don't interact with the vile people on Social Media/Youtube as they do NOT belong in our wonderful hockey community.
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Nov 3, 2023 15:07:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2023 15:07:39 GMT
I can see this investigation running and running for a while I'm afraid.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Nov 3, 2023 16:00:55 GMT
I can see this investigation running and running for a while I'm afraid. I started the thread just to inform people that the inquest is under way. It's not a trial. it's an investigation into the cause of death. I hope people don't start speculating over rights and wrongs and who's to blame. It's not appropriate. And as the inquest has been opened and adjourned until January, it's going to take a long time before any findings are published.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2023 16:36:38 GMT
I can see this investigation running and running for a while I'm afraid. I started the thread just to inform people that the inquest is under way. It's not a trial. it's an investigation into the cause of death. I hope people don't start speculating over rights and wrongs and who's to blame. It's not appropriate. And as the inquest has been opened and adjourned until January, it's going to take a long time before any findings are published. Who said it was a trial?
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Post by bobness on Nov 3, 2023 16:41:14 GMT
Indeed. Of itself, it implies no "guilt" whatsoever, that is not its function. We must remember that. An inquest into a death like this is automatic, similar to inquests into the sadly not uncommon deaths of riders at the TT, for example.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Nov 3, 2023 16:41:47 GMT
I started the thread just to inform people that the inquest is under way. It's not a trial. it's an investigation into the cause of death. I hope people don't start speculating over rights and wrongs and who's to blame. It's not appropriate. And as the inquest has been opened and adjourned until January, it's going to take a long time before any findings are published. Who said it was a trial? Nobody Pidge. The original poster was simply clarifying what it was for those people who might never have encountered an inquest before. And since so many *Bleeps* on social media etc have been calling for a trial etc they were just making sure no-one jumped to the wrong conclusion
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Post by shinobi on Nov 3, 2023 17:48:49 GMT
South Yorkshire Police are investigating on behalf of HM Coroner. It doesn’t mean there’s a criminal investigation. Statements, CCTV etc will be obtained & passed on by SYP for the Coroner to make a decision at a later date.
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Post by texpef on Nov 3, 2023 19:14:18 GMT
These are the possible outcomes of an inquest:-
Accident / Misadventure This conclusion can be reached in two situations:
(i) where someone dies as an unintended result of actions that were themselves deliberate. For example, taking prescription medication but this had an unintended outcome of causing the death of the deceased. (ii) where deaths are truly 'accidental' in the sense that neither the acts causing death nor the consequences of those acts were intended. Neglect This is not so much a conclusion in itself, but another conclusion may be found to be contributed to by neglect. For example, a conclusion can be reached of "accident contributed to by neglect."
Suicide A conclusion of suicide can only be reached where it is found that a person has voluntarily done an act for the conscious purpose of killing themselves. This is a serious finding that can only be reached on the basis of clear and compelling evidence.
Natural causes This conclusion can be reached where, although it was initially thought that the death might be an unnatural death requiring an inquest, on further investigation it became apparent that the cause of death was a natural illness.
Unlawful killing It is extremely rare for a jury or Coroner to reach a conclusion of unlawful killing. A conclusion of unlawful killing can essentially be returned in two circumstances:
(i) as a result of an unlawful act, such as an assault or murder; or (ii) through gross negligence manslaughter. Although this is extremely rare, an unlawful killing verdict is sometimes reached, such as in the recent Hillsborough inquests.
Open conclusion An open conclusion will be reached where there is not enough evidence to reach any other conclusion.
From this there really are realistically only 2 possible outcomes... guess the evidence presented will decide
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Post by Suttonian on Nov 4, 2023 12:29:46 GMT
I know that there's an inquest when someone dies in the workplace but I had no idea what it involved or whether it is also a criminal investigation.
That helps to clarify what steps are taken and why, thanks for posting the explanation Texpef.
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