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Post by Old Timer on Aug 29, 2023 16:10:40 GMT
Interesting to see that the Clan are giving away some free tickets to Blue Light Card Holder (NHS etc)
I know Panthers have given tickets to certain areas of the NHS before, wonder if they are going down this route
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Post by spik on Aug 29, 2023 19:06:46 GMT
That would be intersecting, considering I have one.  |
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Post by kievthegreat on Aug 30, 2023 11:34:37 GMT
Interesting to see that the Clan are giving away some free tickets to Blue Light Card Holder (NHS etc) I know Panthers have given tickets to certain areas of the NHS before, wonder if they are going down this route My wife has a blue light card and sometimes looks at www.bluelighttickets.co.uk, but don't recall seeing Ice Hockey on there. Wouldn't hurt to offer either some tickets or even a discount. Key thing with free tickets is you want to give out less than the demand, so you can't just guarantee to get a free ticket every time you enter a ballot. My friend enters ballot for football tickets and gets them maybe 4 or 5 games a year depending on luck out of around 20 applications which means he'll still buy tickets for other games. |
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Post by awooga on Aug 30, 2023 15:48:56 GMT
Schools get tickets periodically. I took advantage of this several times last season and now I’ve taken the plunge for a season ticket for me and Mrs Awooga.
Have no issue about tickets being discounted.
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Post by texpef on Aug 30, 2023 18:37:54 GMT
they could just sell cheaper tickets to EVERYONE... i dont work for NHS but i was also one of many who didnt have a day off through covid. I dont want a medal or people to stand up for me but i also dont see how NHS staff are any more deserving than for example me....
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Aug 30, 2023 20:45:30 GMT
they could just sell cheaper tickets to EVERYONE... i dont work for NHS but i was also one of many who didnt have a day off through covid. I dont want a medal or people to stand up for me but i also dont see how NHS staff are any more deserving than for example me.... They are not |
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Post by kievthegreat on Aug 30, 2023 20:51:09 GMT
they could just sell cheaper tickets to EVERYONE... i dont work for NHS but i was also one of many who didnt have a day off through covid. I dont want a medal or people to stand up for me but i also dont see how NHS staff are any more deserving than for example me.... They are not We can then take it to all discounts. Are OAPs deserving of a discount more than an Adult? Or a Student? Do we think Armed forces deserve discount or freebies? Everyone will have hugely varying positions on this. For what it's worth, I don't get any discounts of any kind wherever I go! |
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Post by bobness on Aug 31, 2023 8:26:34 GMT
We can then take it to all discounts. Are OAPs deserving of a discount more than an Adult? Or a Student? Do we think Armed forces deserve discount or freebies? Everyone will have hugely varying positions on this. For what it's worth, I don't get any discounts of any kind wherever I go! Me neither, and it's not worth getting agitated about. You end up in the "means test every buyer" box. Should a single woman who earns £150k a year pay the same for a ticket as a cash-strapped single mum whose mortgage deal has just expired? Our society accepts discounts for OAPs (and students/children) in all kinds of places, and other countries do similar discounts for the armed forces and "first responder" type professions etc. There will always be very rich OAPs (who don't "deserve" a discount), and, say, senior NHS directors (same) who get discounts under these schemes when they "can easily afford it", but that's the way it is. No future in dying on that hill. |
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Post by awooga on Aug 31, 2023 16:56:19 GMT
I look at it this way; the tickets that are being discounted / offered are for additional seats rather than to existing fans.
Personally, I’d rather have a full stadium with some people getting in cheaper than half empty seats.
“Just discounting for everyone” won’t put any more bums on seats. Just dilutes the clubs income streams.
The sport needs to be creative in attracting new fans. Anything that brings in new people should be encouraged.
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Post by texpef on Aug 31, 2023 21:02:04 GMT
I look at it this way; the tickets that are being discounted / offered are for additional seats rather than to existing fans. Personally, I’d rather have a full stadium with some people getting in cheaper than half empty seats. “Just discounting for everyone” won’t put any more bums on seats. Just dilutes the clubs income streams. The sport needs to be creative in attracting new fans. Anything that brings in new people should be encouraged. Im afraid my experience doesnt stack up with this... when i started watching panthers tickets were less than a fiver with the likes of forest over 20 quid making it a much cheaper option. Now we have a pre season game in Nottingham with little change from 25 quid and a ticket to see a premiership football game for a few quid more. Incidentally the same pre season game in sheffield is a tenner... As we all know there is a correlation between supply and demand, to just milk the cash cow to extinction which is what charging £25 for a pre season game is rather than a tenner say and you "might" get those fans back who knows... Its been many seasons since i have bought a season ticket and for many years now i dont feel its the wrong choice having watched many many years of our rivals splashing the cash (even breaking so called caps) and enjoying the success that has bought with panthers banking any profits. Now i dont have a problem with companies making profit even sports club but to be honest profit should not be the primary goal of a sports club, success in the sport should be the goal however, this doesnt seem to be that in Nottingham from my experience. The problem i have with filling the arena with "some" people getting in cheaper is that again in my experience it is always the same people who get in cheaper week in week out, i am not talking about OAP discount or kids but what would be full priced tickets to most of the fans. How is that putting more bums on seats? I have no problem with the club being inventive but giving out free tickets to the same schools etc every week is hardly inventive is it? Kids for a quid, BOGOF or even bring your dad days... great but what the clubs do are hardly creative are they? Personally i think how much panthers tickets are now they need to be either winning or very entertaining (and i think after decades of watching, to me winning is entertaining) or preferably both and they havent been either for a very very long time. This imho means, if this continues into this season (and cynically i am far from confident it wont be a repeat of previous seasons) then i am likely to watch as many games as i have in the past few years, i.e. on special occasions or getting a "friends" season ticket when they cant go and that would be all the club would deserve considering it would be so easy to not skimp that ha'peth o' tar and actually put an expensive team on the ice and the club still make a tidy profit. If other "long term" fans feel the same then no amount of discount would make a difference as these fans will be lost and once gone it becomes alot more difficult to get them back. In the past previous management believed they could just replace these missing fans with new ones but at £25 a ticket or thereabouts its a hardsell to new fans. It is alot more important now not to loose these older fans but at £25 for a pre season game it is hard not to feel that panthers fans that are prepared to pay it are not being used as cash cows. I am struggling to see how this pricing structure is doing everything to encourage older fans let alone new ones.... |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Sept 1, 2023 8:14:18 GMT
LOADS of free tickets have been given out to seats around us, and only on very rare occasions do you ever see the people again.
Way to fill the arena with paying customers? Don't blatantly lie to your customers, and DON'T put together a cheap inferior product so that you can desperately try to claw back money lost during COVID to make up for what the other teams got.
I remember the Jolly Japes years ago when certain fans used to rib Sheffield fans about being broke and having "Loads Of Money!" Wow, how that went wrong quickly...
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Post by Joe on Sept 1, 2023 11:48:37 GMT
I’d like to hear from Pacha why he thinks preseason games should cost the same as league and cup games. Is the ST discount done as a benefit for ST holder or does the club recognise that it can’t charge full price for a product that will be slightly below par? Going forward it feels like we’re being sold a match night experience so the actual on ice product will be a set percentage of the price of the ticket and that’s not going to change regardless of whether the hockey is meaningful or good
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2023 12:04:32 GMT
I'm taking the short trip to the HOS next Saturday and at a tenner is great value.. 25 quid the following night? I think not
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Sept 1, 2023 12:50:46 GMT
I’d like to hear from Pacha why he thinks preseason games should cost the same as league and cup games. Is the ST discount done as a benefit for ST holder or does the club recognise that it can’t charge full price for a product that will be slightly below par? Going forward it feels like we’re being sold a match night experience so the actual on ice product will be a set percentage of the price of the ticket and that’s not going to change regardless of whether the hockey is meaningful or good After last season, anyone paying £25 must have very short memories or be very easily entertained. Madness |
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Post by bobness on Sept 1, 2023 14:37:29 GMT
I’d like to hear from Pacha why he thinks preseason games should cost the same as league and cup games. Is the ST discount done as a benefit for ST holder or does the club recognise that it can’t charge full price for a product that will be slightly below par? Going forward it feels like we’re being sold a match night experience so the actual on ice product will be a set percentage of the price of the ticket and that’s not going to change regardless of whether the hockey is meaningful or good It's bizarre pricing for me. Almost like assuming people will be so desperate for hockey they will pay full whack for a glorified training session. I'll be very interested in the attendance, maybe I'll be surprised. Tell you what, I bet Sheffield will sell out. Pidge has this nailed on, I'm going to Sheffield on Saturday with grandson, save the cost of a ticket Sunday, even after petrol. |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Sept 1, 2023 14:38:41 GMT
I’d like to hear from Pacha why he thinks preseason games should cost the same as league and cup games. Is the ST discount done as a benefit for ST holder or does the club recognise that it can’t charge full price for a product that will be slightly below par? Going forward it feels like we’re being sold a match night experience so the actual on ice product will be a set percentage of the price of the ticket and that’s not going to change regardless of whether the hockey is meaningful or good It's bizarre pricing for me. Almost like assuming people will be so desperate for hockey they will pay full whack for a glorified training session. I'll be very interested in the attendance, maybe I'll be surprised. Tell you what, I bet Sheffield will sell out. Pidge has this nailed on, I'm going to Sheffield on Saturday with grandson, save the cost of a ticket Sunday, even after petrol. I would do that anyway so as not to put money in Blacks pocket |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2023 15:16:06 GMT
I’d like to hear from Pacha why he thinks preseason games should cost the same as league and cup games. Is the ST discount done as a benefit for ST holder or does the club recognise that it can’t charge full price for a product that will be slightly below par? Going forward it feels like we’re being sold a match night experience so the actual on ice product will be a set percentage of the price of the ticket and that’s not going to change regardless of whether the hockey is meaningful or good It's bizarre pricing for me. Almost like assuming people will be so desperate for hockey they will pay full whack for a glorified training session. I'll be very interested in the attendance, maybe I'll be surprised. Tell you what, I bet Sheffield will sell out. Pidge has this nailed on, I'm going to Sheffield on Saturday with grandson, save the cost of a ticket Sunday, even after petrol. Tickets for me and my wife (who's a steeler) cost less than the game in Nottingham.. that should never be right 😂 |
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Post by bobness on Sept 1, 2023 17:19:22 GMT
It's bizarre pricing for me. Almost like assuming people will be so desperate for hockey they will pay full whack for a glorified training session. I'll be very interested in the attendance, maybe I'll be surprised. Tell you what, I bet Sheffield will sell out. Pidge has this nailed on, I'm going to Sheffield on Saturday with grandson, save the cost of a ticket Sunday, even after petrol. Tickets for me and my wife (who's a steeler) cost less than the game in Nottingham.. that should never be right 😂 Completely agree, crackers pricing. |
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Post by jd on Sept 1, 2023 18:28:12 GMT
Tickets for me and my wife (who's a steeler) cost less than the game in Nottingham.. that should never be right 😂 Completely agree, crackers pricing. Hope they’re poorly attended, only way they will learn |
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Post by awooga on Sept 1, 2023 18:59:52 GMT
I agree on pre season ticket pricing. Charging full whack, and against teams that we are playing week in, week out is unimaginative and lazy.
I do maintain that the club needs to do promos to encourage fans, new and old. There’s so many competing leisure activities at a time when family finances are being stretched.
Perhaps the freebies/ discounts need to shared around - such that it’s not the same people every week.
It’s easy to slate the club in what they are doing in trying to get more people in. I’m sure if there are better ideas they would love to hear them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2023 19:32:57 GMT
I agree on pre season ticket pricing. Charging full whack, and against teams that we are playing week in, week out is unimaginative and lazy. I do maintain that the club needs to do promos to encourage fans, new and old. There’s so many competing leisure activities at a time when family finances are being stretched. Perhaps the freebies/ discounts need to shared around - such that it’s not the same people every week. It’s easy to slate the club in what they are doing in trying to get more people in. I’m sure if there are better ideas they would love to hear them. The ironic thing is I'm pretty sure Sheffield arena costs more in rent than the NIC so they can't even use the cost of overheads |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Sept 1, 2023 21:18:53 GMT
I agree on pre season ticket pricing. Charging full whack, and against teams that we are playing week in, week out is unimaginative and lazy. I do maintain that the club needs to do promos to encourage fans, new and old. There’s so many competing leisure activities at a time when family finances are being stretched. Perhaps the freebies/ discounts need to shared around - such that it’s not the same people every week. It’s easy to slate the club in what they are doing in trying to get more people in. I’m sure if there are better ideas they would love to hear them. The ironic thing is I'm pretty sure Sheffield arena costs more in rent than the NIC so they can't even use the cost of overheads But Sheffield Steelers got a government COVID payout |
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Post by Bagheera on Sept 1, 2023 21:33:54 GMT
Completely agree, crackers pricing. Hope they’re poorly attended, only way they will learn But they dont learn. Look at CC over recent years. Even Steelers games played to 2/3k fans. But they keep flogging it. |
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Post by jd on Sept 1, 2023 22:17:41 GMT
Hope they’re poorly attended, only way they will learn But they dont learn. Look at CC over recent years. Even Steelers games played to 2/3k fans. But they keep flogging it. Yep, agreed. Will be really interesting to see what kind of turn out we have for the first month or 2. I imagine it will be good, then if results slide hopefully attendances will. Only way NB will learn is if his pocket is affected. How the clan perform this season will be interesting too |
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Post by Joe on Sept 1, 2023 22:26:55 GMT
Hope they’re poorly attended, only way they will learn But they dont learn. Look at CC over recent years. Even Steelers games played to 2/3k fans. But they keep flogging it. You’d think that’s where the questionnaire info would come into play, Panthers fans voted that they value the league more than the cup so you’d think the club might try to entice fans by matching ticket price to the perceived importance of the competition. It reeks of a money man decision because I struggle to believe that given how many preseasons Pacha went through as a player/coach that he thinks the monetary value of a preseason game is the same as a league game |
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