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Post by wgray on Aug 24, 2023 22:41:24 GMT
under 30 ,uncle finished career in Scotland late 80’s Adam Johnson fits that pattern exactly. Are you saying he is Panthers final signing. I hope you are If he is then that’s some signing, I’d be very pleased with that
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Post by awooga on Aug 24, 2023 22:42:57 GMT
He’s got a point though, some people on here are rock solid in the belief that this team will at best be fighting for a playoff spot so why spend your hard earned money and time on something that’s going to bring you so much negativity, if I was in there position I’d have walked away and found something enjoyable to spend my time on. I don't disagree that the cage can be negative sometimes. Doesn't mean they are always wrong . In my mind it's just as bad to be so blind that you look at this squad and go yup that's gonna push for honours this year . Happy to be wrong , very happy to be wrong and this team does push Cardiff Sheffield and Belfast for the title . But I doubt it . However to basically go oh well if your not excited by team you don't go. Stupid argument I may not agree with signings I may not think we are going to uproot any trees this year but I will still support them when they hit the ice . They are still my team . For me it's just another fan trying to tell people how they should be supporting the team . If you pay your money then your entitled to a view . If you want to be critical go ahead go for it , if you want to sit and clap and cheer applaud anything put in front of you , go for it . If your like me and in the middle and recognize the good and bad and voice accordingly again go for it . Support how you want don't be arrogant and consider your way or people just shouldn't go . We are all fans we all want the team to do the best and compete . Personally there are one or two players I am looking forward to lemay being one oli being back is the other and you can bet I will be singing and supporting them when I go as will a lot of people who haven't been overly enamoured by some of the signings . We want better and after last season can you blame us ? Support your way not someone else's Reasonable balanced post. I’m one of the newer fans to the sport, but also a football fan having seen years of underperformance at Forest. You have to sit through the bad times sometimes to appreciate the good. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, albeit I would suggest an opinion that is formed based on actual appearances in the shirt. I find it tiresome to see “everyone and everything’s poo poo” posts before a game is played. That’s my point really. If it makes people genuinely miserable, then I would suggest they look elsewhere for their entertainment. Gone are the days for me when a Forest loss would ruin my weekend. As for leaving the forum, I have self moderated and blocked those who I have no time for. Improves the experience no end!
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Post by Joe on Aug 24, 2023 22:51:22 GMT
I don't disagree that the cage can be negative sometimes. Doesn't mean they are always wrong . In my mind it's just as bad to be so blind that you look at this squad and go yup that's gonna push for honours this year . Happy to be wrong , very happy to be wrong and this team does push Cardiff Sheffield and Belfast for the title . But I doubt it . However to basically go oh well if your not excited by team you don't go. Stupid argument I may not agree with signings I may not think we are going to uproot any trees this year but I will still support them when they hit the ice . They are still my team . For me it's just another fan trying to tell people how they should be supporting the team . If you pay your money then your entitled to a view . If you want to be critical go ahead go for it , if you want to sit and clap and cheer applaud anything put in front of you , go for it . If your like me and in the middle and recognize the good and bad and voice accordingly again go for it . Support how you want don't be arrogant and consider your way or people just shouldn't go . We are all fans we all want the team to do the best and compete . Personally there are one or two players I am looking forward to lemay being one oli being back is the other and you can bet I will be singing and supporting them when I go as will a lot of people who haven't been overly enamoured by some of the signings . We want better and after last season can you blame us ? Support your way not someone else's Exactly many posters on here been going for years and their opinions are from years of experience of seeing teams assembled and how that transform's on the ice.. if the team looks good and balanced they will say so.. if it looks weak and short of quality they will say Experience doesn’t necessarily translate to knowledge though, someone going 10 years could be more knowledgeable than someone who has been going 30 years, especially when the league has evolved quite a bit over the last few years so knowledge gained 10 years ago may not be as relevant as knowledge gained over the last couple of years
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2023 5:38:26 GMT
Exactly many posters on here been going for years and their opinions are from years of experience of seeing teams assembled and how that transform's on the ice.. if the team looks good and balanced they will say so.. if it looks weak and short of quality they will say Experience doesn’t necessarily translate to knowledge though, someone going 10 years could be more knowledgeable than someone who has been going 30 years, especially when the league has evolved quite a bit over the last few years so knowledge gained 10 years ago may not be as relevant as knowledge gained over the last couple of years Sometimes that can be the case yeah. The game has evolved over the last 10 of so years so some fans are 'old school' which could make them a little out of touch but they still understand the basics of how the sport should be played and what it takes to win especially in this league
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Post by deke on Aug 25, 2023 5:56:10 GMT
I don't disagree that the cage can be negative sometimes. Doesn't mean they are always wrong . In my mind it's just as bad to be so blind that you look at this squad and go yup that's gonna push for honours this year . Happy to be wrong , very happy to be wrong and this team does push Cardiff Sheffield and Belfast for the title . But I doubt it . However to basically go oh well if your not excited by team you don't go. Stupid argument I may not agree with signings I may not think we are going to uproot any trees this year but I will still support them when they hit the ice . They are still my team . For me it's just another fan trying to tell people how they should be supporting the team . If you pay your money then your entitled to a view . If you want to be critical go ahead go for it , if you want to sit and clap and cheer applaud anything put in front of you , go for it . If your like me and in the middle and recognize the good and bad and voice accordingly again go for it . Support how you want don't be arrogant and consider your way or people just shouldn't go . We are all fans we all want the team to do the best and compete . Personally there are one or two players I am looking forward to lemay being one oli being back is the other and you can bet I will be singing and supporting them when I go as will a lot of people who haven't been overly enamoured by some of the signings . We want better and after last season can you blame us ? Support your way not someone else's Firstly I think rock solid beliefs on how good or bad a team is going to be before seeing them play is ridiculous regardless of how long you’ve been going. I agree fans have a right to support their team however they want but I believe constant negativity/positivity doesn’t do the club any good. My point wasn’t to criticise or devalue the way people support the club but pose a question that if something that’s meant to bring joy to people but then brings you only negativity why do people actively seek it out, if people are unable to step away which is understandable then maybe to support from a distance would be better I already stated while I didn't think this team at the moment looked of sufficient quality I was happy to be wrong . So definitely not exactly rock solid as the indication there is clear the opinion can be changed . I understand that your intent was not devalue , but we had enough fans last year banging their true fans drum when people voiced by booing that a 7th place finish was not acceptable. Frankly I had enough of them . Did last season being anyone joy ? No oh good God no we were awful . I am still back next year. It's my team . Yes I have been critical of some of the signings , I think we can do better than this and for me on the whole the team looks cheap and missing that star we are going to need . I saw on Facebook someone actually promoting Caruso as a captain or vice captain , a joke I hope . If this aj signs and is who I think it is then God damn that's a top top signing and a huge piece of the puzzle and would definitely contribute to us being competitive. Enough to make a genuine title push ? Maybe not but it might give us the pieces to challenge next year if we keep hold of key players. When you see negativity, ask why ? For me it's because the last few seasons have been very poor and I want my team to do better and it frustrates me to see us sign players who by the look of them aren't enough to challenge. We are an arena team with higher income and better facilities than other teams have , we shouldn't be 7th we should be pushing in the top pack. We demand more .
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Post by bobness on Aug 25, 2023 8:45:14 GMT
I think we can all agree Panthers shouldn't be pushing for 7th.
Think of it maybe like this. Put this team against last seasons' should've-been-champions. There's not much difference, to me. Average age 27 or so. Not massively experienced, in terms of AHL/NHL especially, but very coachable, by a good coach. Quick, small-er forwards. Mobile D. Solid netminding pair. Some definite role-players, some definite "go to" guys. No "muscle" as such. (Only 2 players get over 1PIM a game on average (and one of them only just) despite 2 games with multiple fighting majors and misconducts.) Disciplined, and good special teams. (Lowest PK opportunities conceded in the league, second best PPG difference after Giants.) A proper team. "Name on the front" stuff.
The rumoured AJ as final signing could be a last detail that could make this Panthers team. Let's hope so, whoever that signing is.
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Post by Robbie Nud on Aug 25, 2023 11:38:48 GMT
My opinion on the team so far, as pidge says I dont have one. Individually looking at their stats alone, there are some good players who have performed well with previous teams in leagues better than this. A lot of opinion has been based on size; so from that Molin would have been written off as soon as his name came up as he was smaller than any of those signed. But they will all have played against opposition much bigger than them and still put up good numbers. An adage of being the size of the fight in the dog as opposed to the size of the dog in the fight could come to mind. I would defer judgement of how they will play and perform in the ice as part of this team until I see them in action at a game. Highlight videos are okay, but they are just that, showing the better bits of the game; same as the ones released with each player. A wonder goal here, a outstanding save there, does show them aimlessly skating around for parts of the game making little effort, or leaving the crease to play the puck and passing it straight to an advancing opposition player for a gilt edged open net. How will they play for Paredes, will he have a game plan that is changable? How does want them play? Will it be to the players strengths or will he force them to player against their natural style? Time will tell.
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Post by bobness on Aug 25, 2023 11:59:30 GMT
My opinion on the team so far, as pidge says I dont have one. Individually looking at their stats alone, there are some good players who have performed well with previous teams in leagues better than this. A lot of opinion has been based on size; so from that Molin would have been written off as soon as his name came up as he was smaller than any of those signed. But they will all have played against opposition much bigger than them and still put up good numbers. An adage of being the size of the fight in the dog as opposed to the size of the dog in the fight could come to mind. I would defer judgement of how they will play and perform in the ice as part of this team until I see them in action at a game. Highlight videos are okay, but they are just that, showing the better bits of the game; same as the ones released with each player. A wonder goal here, a outstanding save there, does show them aimlessly skating around for parts of the game making little effort, or leaving the crease to play the puck and passing it straight to an advancing opposition player for a gilt edged open net. How will they play for Paredes, will he have a game plan that is changable? How does want them play? Will it be to the players strengths or will he force them to player against their natural style? Time will tell. A sensible post on this thread, at long last.
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Post by texpef on Aug 25, 2023 14:15:59 GMT
two of my favourite players werent exactly giants in David Ling or Simon Hunt and neither were delicate flowers so it doesnt really matter too much about size its more about quality and even then its more about quality compared to who they will be matched against and so far imho i dont really think that we match up that well as compared to some of our rivals... time will tell but history would tell us that our teams havent matched up that well over the past couple plus decades so maybe this season will buck the trend. i think this is optimistic thinking but thats the life of a panthers fan who has an owner that clearly sees the bottom line as a higher priority than on ice success or at least that is what most people would see regards money in and money spent..
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Sept 14, 2023 12:03:39 GMT
Lunsjo. I was expecting 'Lunshow' but instead we got something different in the commentary. Anyone know the correct pronunciation.
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Post by Jono Bullard on Sept 14, 2023 12:12:44 GMT
Lunsjo. I was expecting 'Lunshow' but instead we got something different in the commentary. Anyone know the correct pronunciation. Lune-kwer, as said in commentary and confirmed by the player himself. I was unsure but had a look at some YouTube videos of him playing in Sweden and the commentators there were saying lune-kwer. It also says that if you use the audio feature in Google translate.
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Post by bobness on Sept 14, 2023 13:44:59 GMT
Elite prospects pronunciation feature has it more like Lunn-hwur but if the owner of said name says it that way, who are we to argue. Whatever it is, definitely not Lun-show.
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Post by kievthegreat on Sept 14, 2023 14:01:28 GMT
Lunsjo. I was expecting 'Lunshow' but instead we got something different in the commentary. Anyone know the correct pronunciation. Lune-kwer, as said in commentary and confirmed by the player himself. I was unsure but had a look at some YouTube videos of him playing in Sweden and the commentators there were saying lune-kwer. It also says that if you use the audio feature in Google translate. Do you have the crib sheet with you with each players name spelt out phonetically? I think I saw Stef sharing his when he was doing international or CHL games.
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Post by Jono Bullard on Sept 14, 2023 14:17:08 GMT
Lune-kwer, as said in commentary and confirmed by the player himself. I was unsure but had a look at some YouTube videos of him playing in Sweden and the commentators there were saying lune-kwer. It also says that if you use the audio feature in Google translate. Do you have the crib sheet with you with each players name spelt out phonetically? I think I saw Stef sharing his when he was doing international or CHL games. This is a screenshot of my commentary notes. All the tricky pronunciations are in there, I confirmed them with the players on induction day. Also this year the league has created a file for commentators to access, where each club has uploaded the correct pronunciations for each of their players, which will be a great help over the season.
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Post by Robbie Nud on Sept 14, 2023 14:28:58 GMT
Also this year the league has created a file for commentators to access, where each club has uploaded the correct pronunciations for each of their players, which will be a great help over the season. View Attachment Lets hope the Giants commentators make use of it, as some of their pronunciations has been, lets say, a little off.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Sept 14, 2023 16:51:42 GMT
Also this year the league has created a file for commentators to access, where each club has uploaded the correct pronunciations for each of their players, which will be a great help over the season. View Attachment Lets hope the Giants commentators make use of it, as some of their pronunciations has been, lets say, a little off. And lets hope we get to hear it a lot
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Post by bobness on Sept 15, 2023 7:52:10 GMT
So Francophone "wah" rather than as in ... of the Rovers. Excellent.
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Post by spik on Sept 15, 2023 10:11:02 GMT
Can I just add that the commentary for Nottingham improves all the time and the announcer in Sheffield is very un-bias to me. Do we have a 'wooden spooner'?
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Sept 15, 2023 11:44:09 GMT
So Francophone "wah" rather than as in ... of the Rovers. Excellent. more like WRAH if you can roll your r's
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Post by Jono Bullard on Sept 15, 2023 12:06:25 GMT
So Francophone "wah" rather than as in ... of the Rovers. Excellent. more like WRAH if you can roll your r's Must admit I've never heard it pronounced that way. Elite Prospects has a handy audio feature if you have an account on there. Unfortunately Hugo doesn't have an audio pronunciation, but I checked Mathieu (formerly of Sheffield & Glasgow) and Nicolas (Vegas Golden Knights). Both are pronounced Wah.
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Post by bobness on Sept 15, 2023 13:03:58 GMT
Can I just add that the commentary for Nottingham improves all the time and the announcer in Sheffield is very un-bias to me. Do we have a 'wooden spooner'? Agreed, Steelers lead the way in media presentation, but I'm sensing we're coming up on the rails? I'm not sure I like the Belfast guy, he's very biased, IMHO. And prone to hyperbole. The pair who do the Fife webcast make the mic distort, and often talk over each other. It's hard, listening to them.
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