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Post by wgray on Aug 9, 2023 17:48:19 GMT
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Post by Bagheera on Aug 9, 2023 18:13:30 GMT
Looks a solid pick up. As with the last few years I think the quality of our overall D hinges on the final signing. A top pairing guy and it's looking pretty strong. If it's a bottom pairing guy it probably falls short of contender standard.
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Post by Yotes on Aug 9, 2023 18:42:42 GMT
Looks quite similar statistically to Lindgren.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 20:41:56 GMT
Looks a solid pick up. As with the last few years I think the quality of our overall D hinges on the final signing. A top pairing guy and it's looking pretty strong. If it's a bottom pairing guy it probably falls short of contender standard. It just looks a middle of the road type signing to me. Nothing to rage about I'm afraid
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Post by pantherlee on Aug 9, 2023 21:06:48 GMT
Looks a solid pick up. As with the last few years I think the quality of our overall D hinges on the final signing. A top pairing guy and it's looking pretty strong. If it's a bottom pairing guy it probably falls short of contender standard. It just looks a middle of the road type signing to me. Nothing to rage about I'm afraid What is your opinion on Travis Brown for Giants and Kevin Tansey for Sheffield These two look like very good signings for both teams and seem very comparable with Bjorkung to me. Similar ages. Played in same leagues with similar numbers with Bjorkungs being superior in some cases. When I first looked at his CV I was similar to you in not being overwhelmed and that may be because he’s a euro and doesn’t have the ECHL/AHL background but the more I look into it the more impressed I am
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 21:14:08 GMT
I'm just hoping this last d man is one hell of a stud and a bit of a Duncan Keith clone 🤣
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Post by pantherlee on Aug 9, 2023 21:19:51 GMT
I'm just hoping this last d man is one hell of a stud and a bit of a Duncan Keith clone 🤣 Are you going to put any substance to your argument as I’ve tried to with mine and make a case in point or just spout out meaningless throw away comments?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 21:21:59 GMT
I'm just hoping this last d man is one hell of a stud and a bit of a Duncan Keith clone 🤣 Are you going to put any substance to your argument as I’ve tried to with mine and make a case in point or just spout out meaningless throw away comments? You'll see if it's a throwaway comment once you've watched panthers defence giving up goals for fun.. Panthers haven't had a half decent defence in 10 years .. you think this one will be watertight you are deluded
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Post by pantherlee on Aug 9, 2023 21:29:17 GMT
I'm just hoping this last d man is one hell of a stud and a bit of a Duncan Keith clone 🤣 Are you going to put any substance to your argument as I’ve tried to with mine and make a case in point or just spout out meaningless throw away comments? So that’s a no then! Once again zero substance For someone who says they don’t judge players into they’ve seen them play, to say anyone is deluded if they think that our defence will be watertight (which I never did) with a player still to sign is completely hypocritical
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Post by blackandgold73 on Aug 9, 2023 21:39:55 GMT
Are you going to put any substance to your argument as I’ve tried to with mine and make a case in point or just spout out meaningless throw away comments? You'll see if it's a throwaway comment once you've watched panthers defence giving up goals for fun.. Panthers haven't had a half decent defence in 10 years .. you think this one will be watertight you are deluded Come on Pidge, one day you're going to have to actually deal with the content of someone's post and respond to the questions they asked with an actual reasoned argument just for a bit of variety at least? Who has said it will be watertight? Noone. So nobody for you to claim that they're deluded. Sure anyone one can throw around potshots in posts and if you throw enough eventually one will be right (even when people have to watch them endless contradict themselves to do that often). How about maybe for once, just for a little variety, engage with a post and try a reasoned response? Who knows you might even get to like the response you get from others if you do? It might not be the adrenaline high of annoying someone in Twitter but maybe it'll be a different type of reward? Something better? Yes, it's not as easy to engage that way. Yes, it's a bit more risky. But we're a welcoming bunch. We're not scary. And we're certainly not just going to jump on your response with potshots if we think you're wrong. We'll engage, and try and convince you. And if you disagree you can try and convince us in turn. This is a forum after all, not the comments section on a YouTube channel right? Why not try it? We're really not that scary a bunch here. Honestly
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 21:46:58 GMT
You'll see if it's a throwaway comment once you've watched panthers defence giving up goals for fun.. Panthers haven't had a half decent defence in 10 years .. you think this one will be watertight you are deluded Come on Pidge, one day you're going to have to actually deal with the content of someone's post and respond to the questions they asked with an actual reasoned argument just for a bit of variety at least? Who has said it will be watertight? Noone. So nobody for you to claim that they're deluded. Sure anyone one can throw around potshots in posts and if you throw enough eventually one will be right (even when people have to watch them endless contradict themselves to do that often). How about maybe for once, just for a little variety, engage with a post and try a reasoned response? Who knows you might even get to like the response you get from others if you do? It might not be the adrenaline high of annoying someone in Twitter but maybe it'll be a different type of reward? Something better? Yes, it's not as easy to engage that way. Yes, it's a bit more risky. But we're a welcoming bunch. We're not scary. And we're certainly not just going to jump on your response with potshots if we think you're wrong. We'll engage, and try and convince you. And if you disagree you can try and convince us in turn. This is a forum after all, not the comments section on a YouTube channel right? Why not try it? We're really not that scary a bunch here. Honestly Was this aimed at me or Bobness 🤣
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Post by pantherlee on Aug 9, 2023 21:52:41 GMT
Come on Pidge, one day you're going to have to actually deal with the content of someone's post and respond to the questions they asked with an actual reasoned argument just for a bit of variety at least? Who has said it will be watertight? Noone. So nobody for you to claim that they're deluded. Sure anyone one can throw around potshots in posts and if you throw enough eventually one will be right (even when people have to watch them endless contradict themselves to do that often). How about maybe for once, just for a little variety, engage with a post and try a reasoned response? Who knows you might even get to like the response you get from others if you do? It might not be the adrenaline high of annoying someone in Twitter but maybe it'll be a different type of reward? Something better? Yes, it's not as easy to engage that way. Yes, it's a bit more risky. But we're a welcoming bunch. We're not scary. And we're certainly not just going to jump on your response with potshots if we think you're wrong. We'll engage, and try and convince you. And if you disagree you can try and convince us in turn. This is a forum after all, not the comments section on a YouTube channel right? Why not try it? We're really not that scary a bunch here. Honestly Was this aimed at me or Bobness 🤣 Yet again you deflect and offer absolutely nothing to the debate
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 21:55:37 GMT
I'll add something to the debate if it's make you feel better this chap looks ok but nothing special 👍
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Post by blackandgold73 on Aug 9, 2023 21:57:51 GMT
Come on Pidge, one day you're going to have to actually deal with the content of someone's post and respond to the questions they asked with an actual reasoned argument just for a bit of variety at least? Who has said it will be watertight? Noone. So nobody for you to claim that they're deluded. Sure anyone one can throw around potshots in posts and if you throw enough eventually one will be right (even when people have to watch them endless contradict themselves to do that often). How about maybe for once, just for a little variety, engage with a post and try a reasoned response? Who knows you might even get to like the response you get from others if you do? It might not be the adrenaline high of annoying someone in Twitter but maybe it'll be a different type of reward? Something better? Yes, it's not as easy to engage that way. Yes, it's a bit more risky. But we're a welcoming bunch. We're not scary. And we're certainly not just going to jump on your response with potshots if we think you're wrong. We'll engage, and try and convince you. And if you disagree you can try and convince us in turn. This is a forum after all, not the comments section on a YouTube channel right? Why not try it? We're really not that scary a bunch here. Honestly Was this aimed at me or Bobness 🤣 Personally I'd say the clue was in the first sentence: "Come on Pidge, one day you're going to have to...". So where exactly between the On and the Pidge did we lose you? PS: nice deflection attempt by the way. But since you now have confirmation it's addressed to you, feel free to think about the issues suggested. We really aren't that scary a bunch I promise
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 22:00:43 GMT
Was this aimed at me or Bobness 🤣 Personally I'd say the clue was in the first sentence: "Come on Pidge, one day you're going to have to...". So where exactly between the On and the Pidge did we lose you? PS: nice deflection attempt by the way. But since you now have confirmation it's addressed to you, feel free to think about the issues suggested. We really aren't that scary a bunch I promise Don't worry I ain't scared....
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Post by pantherlee on Aug 9, 2023 22:07:35 GMT
I'll add something to the debate if it's make you feel better this chap looks ok but nothing special 👍 If that’s what you adding to the debate I’ll give up now and try with someone who will string at least two sentences together and offer a crumb of reasoning
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Post by Yotes on Aug 9, 2023 22:58:30 GMT
From the POV of the North American game being a better fit to ours - which is perhaps becoming less the case now than it used to be - I'd rather have Brown or Tansey than Bjorkung. I'd put more weight in those ECHL figures and AHL call ups. Tansey in particular looks a step above to me. Big unit too.
I think Bjorkung will be a reasonable player for us, but, as Baggy says at the top, how happy I am with it can only really be judged when you see the full six to see where he sits within the full corp.
(And when you see them all play of course!)
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Post by Bagheera on Aug 10, 2023 5:02:06 GMT
Looks a solid pick up. As with the last few years I think the quality of our overall D hinges on the final signing. A top pairing guy and it's looking pretty strong. If it's a bottom pairing guy it probably falls short of contender standard. It just looks a middle of the road type signing to me. Nothing to rage about I'm afraid That's where I pretty much put solid. Nothing spectacular or anything to be excited about. Average Dman for this level, unlikely to be a star. Caruso to have a season to back up his CV and a stud for the last man in and we'll look fairly good back there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2023 5:26:19 GMT
I'll add something to the debate if it's make you feel better this chap looks ok but nothing special 👍 If that’s what you adding to the debate I’ll give up now and try with someone who will string at least two sentences together and offer a crumb of reasoning Why do I need to write a dossier on a player when I can go straight to the point about him. Like yotes has said I'd prefer Brown and Tansey over him
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Post by pantherlee on Aug 10, 2023 9:40:26 GMT
If that’s what you adding to the debate I’ll give up now and try with someone who will string at least two sentences together and offer a crumb of reasoning Why do I need to write a dossier on a player when I can go straight to the point about him. Like yotes has said I'd prefer Brown and Tansey over him Dossier? I just said a bit of substance. You never say why your opinion is what it is. It’s always just throw away comments and if you throw enough mud some of it sticks and when one comes to fruition you proclaim yourself the oracle
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2023 10:24:17 GMT
Why do I need to write a dossier on a player when I can go straight to the point about him. Like yotes has said I'd prefer Brown and Tansey over him Dossier? I just said a bit of substance. You never say why your opinion is what it is. It’s always just throw away comments and if you throw enough mud most of it sticks and when one comes to fruition you proclaim yourself the oracle Does everyone on this forum give a reasoning behind a player after they've signed ? I think not .. Some reactions are merely .. looks ok, bit meh etc etc 🙄 Just because he hasn't had the reaction you crave for your beloved Panthers from some posters.. 🤣
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Post by Joe on Aug 10, 2023 10:26:27 GMT
Why do I need to write a dossier on a player when I can go straight to the point about him. Like yotes has said I'd prefer Brown and Tansey over him Dossier? I just said a bit of substance. You never say why your opinion is what it is. It’s always just throw away comments and if you throw enough mud some of it sticks and when one comes to fruition you proclaim yourself the oracle Because it’s not based on an opinion, it’s about how they can put a negative spin on it
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Post by samjohnson345 on Aug 10, 2023 10:35:26 GMT
Don’t hate this signing, not enamoured either I guess. He’ll probably do okay, think it puts emphasis on the final d man being a Mark Louis type big tough right shot defensive d man. Still concerned about our lack of size, particularly up front, and hope that the last four players to be announced have already been signed, because if some haven’t then I feel there’s big pressure on the last few recruits. I get we’ve got speed etc, but the best teams in this league have balance and can combine styles of play given the situation. One dimensional teams tend to get found out.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Aug 10, 2023 11:13:20 GMT
I think he looks good, clearly a quick and offensively minded d-man who in Norway & Slovakia has also been quite impressive with his +/- stats too.
30 years old, 6ft tall, with two or three seasons in each of USHL, NCAA, Denmark, Norway (including being in a league winning team then CHL) and Slovakia.
Usually scoring over 0.5pt a game each season and with decent PIMs numbers showing he has a feisty side to his game.
As with all these signings, it will depend who he’s paired with and who else comes in to compliment him, however Bjorkung looks like he could be a decent pickup to me.
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Post by bobness on Aug 10, 2023 11:43:42 GMT
If that’s what you adding to the debate I’ll give up now and try with someone who will string at least two sentences together and offer a crumb of reasoning Why do I need to write a dossier on a player when I can go straight to the point about him. Like yotes has said I'd prefer Brown and Tansey over him Is Brown that much of a stud? I wouldn't quite put him in Tansey's bracket. Brown's career isn't that different to VB. Look at the stats when Brown and Bjorkung were in the same league. 20-21. Brown 3+4 in 23, +7, VB 4+9 in 23, +8. Tansey looks like a notch above both, based on where he's played n the past, but... all 3 were in Denmark last year, now all 3 are here. As I think you're fond of saying, players get signed in the EIHL for a reason. Stats-wise, last season, TB 46, 7+18, -3 VB (pro-rated) 45, 20+15, -5 KT 43, 9+11, -2 All 3 played in "top half" teams. They're all quite similar, aren't they? It's all opinion until we see them though, stats don't "prove" anything, we can agree on that. My take would be that all 3 were in Denmark last year (and that's the year that matters most), with similar stats on similar teams. Now all 3 are here. Ergo, all 3 are likely pretty similar. I could easily be wrong, though.
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