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Post by azbates on Jun 6, 2023 21:17:19 GMT
Gobsmacked at the amount of fans on the panthers socials that are happy about this re signing. Rubbish signing.
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Post by scoobydoo on Jun 6, 2023 21:26:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2023 21:39:50 GMT
Gobsmacked at the amount of fans on the panthers socials that are happy about this re signing. Rubbish signing. Because the general population of panthers socials these days don't understand the game so I'm not surprised they are pleased to see him back
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jun 6, 2023 21:42:38 GMT
Gobsmacked at the amount of fans on the panthers socials that are happy about this re signing. Rubbish signing. Because the general population of panthers socials these days don't understand the game so I'm not surprised they are pleased to see him back They are busy spit polishing their moves for next season’s dance cam
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Post by sevcik on Jun 6, 2023 21:51:22 GMT
Gobsmacked at the amount of fans on the panthers socials that are happy about this re signing. Rubbish signing. Because the general population of panthers socials these days don't understand the game so I'm not surprised they are pleased to see him back And most of these newer & possibly younger fans have probably only been around since 2018. For them finishing 6th/7th in the league and signing this level of player is the norm, So they are more than happy with it and don't expect more. Still Panthers social media is better so alls right in the world lol.
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Post by Yotes on Jun 6, 2023 21:52:38 GMT
Probably happy to finish off his university course. We gave him a uni deal too?
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Post by sevcik on Jun 6, 2023 21:54:23 GMT
Probably happy to finish off his university course. We gave him a uni deal too? I don't think he was announced as being on one was he? I may be wrong.
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Post by iginla on Jun 6, 2023 22:13:59 GMT
Gobsmacked at the amount of fans on the panthers socials that are happy about this re signing. Rubbish signing. Because the general population of panthers socials these days don't understand the game so I'm not surprised they are pleased to see him back He must be good at quiz nights. 😆
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Post by blackandgold73 on Jun 6, 2023 22:17:09 GMT
Presumably you're excluding 19-20 when no league or playoff title was awarded and the 20-21 "series" as it wasn't an EIHL full league season of all the teams? To make all 10 years equal and with 3 trophies available (unlike 19-21) So by my reckoning 10 EIHL full league years would therefore take us back to 2011-12 season. Yes? In that case, I make the trophy count: 10 of 30 for Giants 8 of 30 for Panthers 7 of 30 for Cardiff 4 of 30 for Squeelers, 1 of 30 for Blaze Admittedly our place in the table feels worse because you have to go back to 2015-16 for our last. Giants dominance is more evident in the last 5 years winning 8 of 15 trophies. I don't think our performance of the last five full years has been good enough for sure, and I'd normally argue that stability helps breeds consistency and progress - and we've definitely not had stability in the past five years. The Giants have done the last couple of years exactly what Panthers failed to do after 2012/13. Wonder what the trophy count is since 2003 or whenever it was the EIHL started ? Not hard to find out. 18 full season years with 3 trophies awarded each season. 54 possible trophies. And we still top the table despite a barren last few years. Pretty unacceptable for a top club like ours though Panthers - 14 Giants - 13 Squealers - 10 Devils - 8 Blaze - 8 Vipers - 1 Squeelers have one additional CC trophy from the aborted 19-20 season taking them to 11 if you include that So we've won 26% of all the trophies contested in full seasons and 25.4% of all EIHL trophies. Only Giants come close to that. Perhaps those years of winning al the time has blinkered us to the reality of our success over the EIHL era and made us arrogant in our expectations??
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Post by iginla on Jun 6, 2023 22:17:28 GMT
Probably happy to finish off his university course. We gave him a uni deal too? It says for the year so yes presumably so. That’ll be another one missing umpteen training sessions then. Little wonder that they can’t bloody pass properly to each other ! 🙄
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jun 6, 2023 22:32:12 GMT
We gave him a uni deal too? It says for the year so yes presumably so. That’ll be another one missing umpteen training sessions then. Little wonder that they can’t bloody pass properly to each other ! 🙄 But I believe the Giants have seven uni places? But they are a serious ice hockey franchise not an entertainment business for people who couldn’t get tickets for dancing on ice
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Post by blackandgold73 on Jun 6, 2023 22:36:23 GMT
Charitably, 8 points in his last 8 league games. Uncharitably, 16 in his first 44. Coincidentally those 8 points came whilst being on a settled line for those final 8 games - when Corey settled on him as the player fast/suitable enough to be the regular linemate with Hammond and Brady. Maybe there's a way to unlock a bit more of his potential that they're seeing after that?
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Post by kievthegreat on Jun 6, 2023 22:40:07 GMT
The Giants have done the last couple of years exactly what Panthers failed to do after 2012/13. Wonder what the trophy count is since 2003 or whenever it was the EIHL started ? Not hard to find out. 18 full season years with 3 trophies awarded each season. 54 possible trophies. And we still top the table despite a barren last few years. Pretty unacceptable for a top club like ours though Panthers - 14 Giants - 13 Squealers - 10 Devils - 8 Blaze - 8 Vipers - 1 Squeelers have one additional CC trophy from the aborted 19-20 season taking them to 11 if you include that So we've won 26% of all the trophies contested in full seasons and 25.4% of all EIHL trophies. Only Giants come close to that. Perhaps those years of winning al the time has blinkered us to the reality of our success over the EIHL era and made us arrogant in our expectations?? I think what this misses is the distribution of trophies. In league title terms it's: Giants - 6 Squealers - 5 Blaze - 4 Devils - 2 Panthers - 1 Don't get me wrong, I like a cup/play-off title as much as the next man, but they aren't worth anywhere near the same as the league.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Jun 6, 2023 22:49:28 GMT
Not hard to find out. 18 full season years with 3 trophies awarded each season. 54 possible trophies. And we still top the table despite a barren last few years. Pretty unacceptable for a top club like ours though Panthers - 14 Giants - 13 Squealers - 10 Devils - 8 Blaze - 8 Vipers - 1 Squeelers have one additional CC trophy from the aborted 19-20 season taking them to 11 if you include that So we've won 26% of all the trophies contested in full seasons and 25.4% of all EIHL trophies. Only Giants come close to that. Perhaps those years of winning al the time has blinkered us to the reality of our success over the EIHL era and made us arrogant in our expectations?? I think what this misses is the distribution of trophies. In league title terms it's: Giants - 6 Squealers - 5 Blaze - 4 Devils - 2 Panthers - 1 Don't get me wrong, I like a cup/play-off title as much as the next man, but they aren't worth anywhere near the same as the league. I agree that no they're not, but since the original poster's comment about this in the thread was arguing we'd only won 3 out of a possible 30 trophies in 10 years (incorrect in actuality) I stuck to the terms they'd argued in originally (all trophies) so as not to move the goalposts on them
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Post by iginla on Jun 6, 2023 22:51:43 GMT
Not hard to find out. 18 full season years with 3 trophies awarded each season. 54 possible trophies. And we still top the table despite a barren last few years. Pretty unacceptable for a top club like ours though Panthers - 14 Giants - 13 Squealers - 10 Devils - 8 Blaze - 8 Vipers - 1 Squeelers have one additional CC trophy from the aborted 19-20 season taking them to 11 if you include that So we've won 26% of all the trophies contested in full seasons and 25.4% of all EIHL trophies. Only Giants come close to that. Perhaps those years of winning al the time has blinkered us to the reality of our success over the EIHL era and made us arrogant in our expectations?? I think what this misses is the distribution of trophies. In league title terms it's: Giants - 6 Squealers - 5 Blaze - 4 Devils - 2 Panthers - 1 Don't get me wrong, I like a cup/play-off title as much as the next man, but they aren't worth anywhere near the same as the league. Spot on. Bet there weren’t many seasons in all those 18 years where Panthers were even close to the league title. Two,three at most ? 🙄
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Post by blackandgold73 on Jun 6, 2023 22:58:34 GMT
We gave him a uni deal too? It says for the year so yes presumably so. That’ll be another one missing umpteen training sessions then. Little wonder that they can’t bloody pass properly to each other ! 🙄 It says he's be re-signed for a second season but that doesn't mean he's on a uni deal. Wasn't mentioned at any point in the interview or OS piece this year. Or last year for that matter. Which Panthers always mention in the announcements because the University of Loughborough wouldn't be getting their sponsorship deal terms if they didn't. www.panthers.co.uk/home/anderson-determined-to-bring-success-to-the-pantherswww.panthers.co.uk/latest-news/220808-anderson
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Post by Yotes on Jun 6, 2023 23:05:23 GMT
People on Twitter saying "we knew this" sort of thing, like with Caruso.
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Post by iginla on Jun 6, 2023 23:42:57 GMT
It says for the year so yes presumably so. That’ll be another one missing umpteen training sessions then. Little wonder that they can’t bloody pass properly to each other ! 🙄 It says he's be re-signed for a second season but that doesn't mean he's on a uni deal. Wasn't mentioned at any point in the interview or OS piece this year. Or last year for that matter. Which Panthers always mention in the announcements because the University of Loughborough wouldn't be getting their sponsorship deal terms if they didn't. www.panthers.co.uk/home/anderson-determined-to-bring-success-to-the-pantherswww.panthers.co.uk/latest-news/220808-andersonIt says a “one year deal” for Anderson which suggests he’s here all year come what may,or he could be on a Uni....or if he’s crap again they can’t get rid unless they paid him up. Same with Caruso. Conversely, Kelsall,Tetlow and Ollie just signed a deal with no mention of year contracts. So who knows.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Jun 6, 2023 23:44:52 GMT
It says for the year so yes presumably so. That’ll be another one missing umpteen training sessions then. Little wonder that they can’t bloody pass properly to each other ! 🙄 But I believe the Giants have seven uni places? But they are a serious ice hockey franchise not an entertainment business for people who couldn’t get tickets for dancing on ice Iggy, you just argued that "That’ll be another one missing umpteen training sessions then" as a complaint about a Nottingham signing being on a uni deal (though they're not). Yet now you're liking a post that argues Belfast are a more "serious franchise" than Nottingham because they offer 7 players uni places? 🤔 By the logic of your very own previous post wouldn't you be complaining that Belfast would be even more hopeless as a result of 7 x "That’ll be another one missing umpteen training sessions then"? 🤔 Surely Belfast should be beer league then? Or does the idea of "Little wonder that they can’t bloody pass properly to each other!" only apply to Nottingham teams??? My head is spinning at the logic contortions and u-turns required to pile one again to the exact opposite argument 😉😂
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Post by iginla on Jun 6, 2023 23:45:43 GMT
People on Twitter saying "we knew this" sort of thing, like with Caruso. Perhaps it was a closely guarded secret Yotes for ST fans only at the Q+A. 🤫 Lol
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Post by blackandgold73 on Jun 6, 2023 23:56:40 GMT
People on Twitter saying "we knew this" sort of thing, like with Caruso. Perhaps it was a closely guarded secret Yotes for ST fans only at the Q+A. 🤫 Lol "Perhaps it was", "suggests", "so who knows" Have you been stealing ideas from the Trump campaign strategy book again Iggy? Lol 🤣
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Post by iginla on Jun 6, 2023 23:58:26 GMT
Iggy, you just argued that "That’ll be another one missing umpteen training sessions then" as a complaint about a Nottingham signing being on a uni deal (though they're not). Yet now you're liking a post that argues Belfast are a more "serious franchise" than Nottingham because they offer 7 players uni places? 🤔 By the logic of your very own previous post wouldn't you be complaining that Belfast would be even more hopeless as a result of 7 x "That’ll be another one missing umpteen training sessions then"? 🤔 Surely Belfast should be beer league then? Or does the idea of "Little wonder that they can’t bloody pass properly to each other!" only apply to Nottingham teams??? My head is spinning at the logic contortions and u-turns required to pile one again to the exact opposite argument 😉😂 Depends if you sign players who actually give a crap about their hockey though doesn’t it. And Belfast University is pretty close to the Odyssey arena and not 20 miles away in a different town. And it wasn’t the bit about 7 places I liked,it was the other bit of the post.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Jun 7, 2023 0:18:55 GMT
Iggy, you just argued that "That’ll be another one missing umpteen training sessions then" as a complaint about a Nottingham signing being on a uni deal (though they're not). Yet now you're liking a post that argues Belfast are a more "serious franchise" than Nottingham because they offer 7 players uni places? 🤔 By the logic of your very own previous post wouldn't you be complaining that Belfast would be even more hopeless as a result of 7 x "That’ll be another one missing umpteen training sessions then"? 🤔 Surely Belfast should be beer league then? Or does the idea of "Little wonder that they can’t bloody pass properly to each other!" only apply to Nottingham teams??? My head is spinning at the logic contortions and u-turns required to pile one again to the exact opposite argument 😉😂 Depends if you sign players who actually give a crap about their hockey though doesn’t it. And Belfast University is pretty close to the Odyssey arena and not 20 miles away in a different town. Wait so now it has nothing to do with offering uni places being bad for a team? Yet also somehow very, very good for a team? But solely on who you offer them too? Surely by the logic of your first sentence if you give them to a player who gives a damn about their hockey then the 15 miles drive time will make no difference whatsoever? Because like you say they'll give a damn about the hockey regardless of whether it's a 10 minute or 30 minute drive on the occasions when they do have to go to class.
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Post by Yotes on Jun 7, 2023 0:21:59 GMT
It says a “one year deal” for Anderson which suggests he’s here all year come what may,or he could be on a Uni....or if he’s crap again they can’t get rid unless they paid him up. I think that's a bit of a stretch, I'd imagine all contracts run for the season (or multiples of it I suppose), but contain the usual clauses for getting rid/leaving in a hurry when a better deal shows up. But there does seem to have been some expectation he'd be back, which is surprising if he's not on year 2 of a uni deal.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jun 7, 2023 0:58:24 GMT
But I believe the Giants have seven uni places? But they are a serious ice hockey franchise not an entertainment business for people who couldn’t get tickets for dancing on ice Iggy, you just argued that "That’ll be another one missing umpteen training sessions then" as a complaint about a Nottingham signing being on a uni deal (though they're not). Yet now you're liking a post that argues Belfast are a more "serious franchise" than Nottingham because they offer 7 players uni places? 🤔 By the logic of your very own previous post wouldn't you be complaining that Belfast would be even more hopeless as a result of 7 x "That’ll be another one missing umpteen training sessions then"? 🤔 Surely Belfast should be beer league then? Or does the idea of "Little wonder that they can’t bloody pass properly to each other!" only apply to Nottingham teams??? My head is spinning at the logic contortions and u-turns required to pile one again to the exact opposite argument 😉😂 Thornton and AK run a very different ship to the merry go round of muppets keeping the happy clappers entertained at Nottingham to be fair. Belfast have no qualms with ditching players who don’t perform or pee them off where as Nottingham will keep or bring back any useless waste of space so long as he’s cheap and pretends to like the stalkers at quiz nights. Nowadays Nottingham and Belfast are incomparable on just about every level unfortunately for the genuine Panthers ice hockey fans that are left.
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