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Post by ashfieldpanther on Nov 16, 2022 7:30:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2022 8:08:19 GMT
Let's be honest how many years have the EIHL had a representative now.. and only panthers have made it out of the group... No other to team has come close!
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Post by iginla on Nov 16, 2022 9:20:10 GMT
Let's be honest how many years have the EIHL had a representative now.. and only panthers have made it out of the group... No other to team has come close! At least it will put some good teams back into the Conti Cup and make the standard of that half decent again.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Nov 16, 2022 12:49:30 GMT
Let's be honest how many years have the EIHL had a representative now.. and only panthers have made it out of the group... No other to team has come close! out of the 'last pot' teams for want of a better way of describing them, I'd think we are the only team to have qualified. our neighbours in the EIHL have come close sometimes but none of the other Europeans (French,Danish etc) have managed it I don't think. BUT i'd sooner have the CHL to shoot for than the Conti Cup every season. It's more of a draw for new players, a bigger shop window, and with the new format of games being spread out, it's less of an impact on the season than it is at present. And the Conti Cup with it's 3 games in 3 days offers more chance of injury. Steelers had that last year, we had it before in Italy.
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Post by iginla on Nov 16, 2022 13:38:15 GMT
Let's be honest how many years have the EIHL had a representative now.. and only panthers have made it out of the group... No other to team has come close! out of the 'last pot' teams for want of a better way of describing them, I'd think we are the only team to have qualified. our neighbours in the EIHL have come close sometimes but none of the other Europeans (French,Danish etc) have managed it I don't think. BUT i'd sooner have the CHL to shoot for than the Conti Cup every season. It's more of a draw for new players, a bigger shop window, and with the new format of games being spread out, it's less of an impact on the season than it is at present. And the Conti Cup with it's 3 games in 3 days offers more chance of injury. Steelers had that last year, we had it before in Italy. I thought a French team qualified into the next round and then on into the Quarter Final in one of the last two or three seasons ?
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Post by Yotes on Nov 16, 2022 19:06:10 GMT
out of the 'last pot' teams for want of a better way of describing them, I'd think we are the only team to have qualified. our neighbours in the EIHL have come close sometimes but none of the other Europeans (French,Danish etc) have managed it I don't think. BUT i'd sooner have the CHL to shoot for than the Conti Cup every season. It's more of a draw for new players, a bigger shop window, and with the new format of games being spread out, it's less of an impact on the season than it is at present. And the Conti Cup with it's 3 games in 3 days offers more chance of injury. Steelers had that last year, we had it before in Italy. I thought a French team qualified into the next round and then on into the Quarter Final in one of the last two or three seasons ? Yes, Rouen made the quarterfinals last year. Bolzano also made it out of the group.
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Post by iginla on Nov 16, 2022 20:46:59 GMT
I thought a French team qualified into the next round and then on into the Quarter Final in one of the last two or three seasons ? Yes, Rouen made the quarterfinals last year. Bolzano also made it out of the group. And that Rouen team included recent ex Panther Andrew Johnston and their top scorer was current Belfast Giant David Gilbert.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 16, 2022 22:07:05 GMT
Didn't really notice the OP, bit of a shame it'll be harder to get into. I would think we draw a decent crowd in comparison to some of the other "Challenger Leagues", so perhaps that's in our favour? Bit surprised a place for the winner of the Continental Cup hasn't been kept in.
Obviously we seem a long way from having to worry about any of that.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Jan 11, 2023 12:46:08 GMT
this year's competition down to the sf stage. First legs played last night. Tappara Tampere 2 v EV Zug 0 Frolunda 2 v Lulea 2 2nd legs next Tuesday.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Feb 21, 2023 12:50:40 GMT
Congrats to Tappara Tampere who beat Lulea 3-2 in a thrilling final. Tappara were 3-0 up with 8mins to go, Lulea pulled the N/M for their first goal, scored their second also with the NM pulled with 2 mins to go, but Tappara managed to hang on to clinch the win.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on May 25, 2023 12:05:05 GMT
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Post by Yotes on May 25, 2023 12:31:27 GMT
For a team that won't win it though, nice to see a variety of opponents, especially if you're not afflicted by Guildford's travel ban.
Wish we were in it.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2023 12:55:28 GMT
For a team that won't win it though, nice to see a variety of opponents, especially if you're not afflicted by Guildford's travel ban. Wish we were in it. These days it's just a glorified pre season for EIHL teams.. don't expect these teams to make it out of the group anytime soon lol
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Post by ashfieldpanther on May 25, 2023 15:18:30 GMT
rather like the Premier League teams use rounds 3&4 of the FA cup, once they've dodged the banana skins then it gets serious and teams do want to win.
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Post by DonClaneone on May 26, 2023 8:51:36 GMT
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Post by spik on May 26, 2023 16:06:30 GMT
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Post by Yotes on May 26, 2023 16:16:01 GMT
Not entirely convinced of those changes. A couple of minutes 5 on 3 and you could be completely sunk against a good powerplay.
Stay out of the box, Belfast.
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Post by blackandgold73 on May 26, 2023 16:34:06 GMT
Not entirely convinced of those changes. A couple of minutes 5 on 3 and you could be completely sunk against a good powerplay. Stay out of the box, Belfast. My thoughts exactly. I get they want to make it more of a goal fest but you'd better be sure you have the best refs in the world or you could end up with some very lopsided games. A bad/soft penalty call may no longer only cost you only 1 goal. What kind of game will the fans experience if one poor call takes a tense 1-0 game late in the third period and turns it into a 3-0 game in under 2 minutes. Can see the fans hating that. Big time! It could also see a dominant team who has controlled the game but not scored a lot lose a game to a an opposing team purely on a bad 2 minutes of PK. Under both scenarios we could have been out of even more games this year with this rule that way. Admittedly being able to cancel out a penalty with a short-handed goal is interesting, to keep the game flowing, but the prospect of one bad call and a decent PP team putting a game out of sight is seriously questionable to me. They'd be *so* much temptation on the refs to give soft penalties to level a game if they think they've made a soft call that resulted in multiple goals. And that way really bad games lie...
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Post by bobness on May 26, 2023 17:54:09 GMT
You really think refs get tempted to influence the outcome of a game? Most people on here wouldn’t trust the refs to influence their own children…
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Post by blackandgold73 on May 26, 2023 21:07:16 GMT
You really think refs get tempted to influence the outcome of a game? Most people on here wouldn’t trust the refs to influence their own children… Not deliberately no bobness. And, for the record, I'm not talking about being tempted to influence the outcome of a game. I think you've slightly misunderstood what I was trying to say. I'm talking about being tempted to prove impartiality by "balancing" a mistake out with a subsequent penalty. I don't like that happening even when the penalty has no consequences as I think it's wrong. Yet I think all of us who been watching for decades can think of games where we've seen occassions when having given a penalty (that they realise after raising their arm was far softer than they thought initially) Refs give an equally soft subsequent "balancing" penalty to the other side to correct the error. Can you tell me you've never felt you're watching that happen? Heck I've even seen it called out on professional TV commentaries. It's something I hate personally (as two bad calls in a game are worse than one) but as it is seen by the opposition as balancing the mistake out it is seen as being impartial. I hate it and am not for it. It's just two bad calls now I'm just saying that if refs have given a penalty they realise they wouldn't give next time with hindsight then the pressure to give a "balancing/impartiality" penalty will now be even greater if the team has scored multiple goals from it. And not just one like now. As the effect of the refs mistake is at least doubled. So now the threat of non pure refereeing is increased: because increases the danger in terms of cost for refs in making a poor call. And thus the pressure to rectify that call with a balancing penalty to avoid certain coaches waving Ipads about on the bench and claiming bias. In that limited sense the yes I think it accidentally could increase the potential for *unintended* influence. But leaving the balancing penalty notion aside for one minute... In a 1-0 game with 2 minutes on the clock you'd imagine a ref would want to be certain about calling a penalty right? But now, under the new rules, even if its called for the losing side it has the potential not of sending the game to extra time but of opening the door for the losing team to win. Or of putting the game to bed if it's called the other way. Thus, suddenly, calling that penalty has a potentially much bigger influence on the game. That's got to give them just a moments extra hesitation now. Refs would have to be robots not to be just a little more nervous about calling a potentially game swinging penalty at that point in the CHL. Which we don't want. 'See it, call it' is what we want from our refs. Not 'See it, think about how big this call is and will I be hearing about it in Monday and then, no wait play has moved on to far now, damn too late'. Penalties without no cancellation after goal scoring will inevitably to bigger PP swings in games. Instead of an equalizer you could now go ahead etc etc. Which is what they want. And I get that. Im not sure I'm for it personally. Though I actually like the fact that a shorthanded goal would cancel a penalty as it encourages positive play on the PK I'm just saying the multiple goals on a PP might have unintended consequences in the pressure and mental behaviour of refs. And I imagine definitely on the amount of swearing from coaches too Plus, sadly, inevitably more referee abuse from fans if the call swings the game. But whatever happens I imagine it'll be a real talking point once the games get going. Time will tell on this one. There are bits I like and others I'm really not convinced by
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