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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 6, 2022 22:33:03 GMT
Now at least 6 sponsors have pulled out, some of whom contacted the club regarding the matter and none got a reply. Spectacularly bad and the biggest own goal I’ve ever seen in UK ice hockey
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Post by spik on Oct 6, 2022 23:38:30 GMT
Has Chalmers been sacked? It doesn't say so specifically in Blacky's message, just that there'll be a new GM in. Didn't he manage the arena too? Not gone down well with their fans. He is MD of the arena. So if he's allowed to continue in that role, then effectively he can still do the same work for the Clan as he has, just unofficially. Also doesn't actually state why Cameron can stay. Plus zero acknowledgement or gesture to people directly impacted & traumatised by these recent events, just a general "sorry for those upset" which is fine if Asda duff something up with your shopping, but it simply doesn't do for this kind of situation. People have been made genuinely upset by this. It's also using tactics any political party would be proud of. Moving Chalmers sideways to the arena and wait it out. While banking on fans to still turn-up & pay money "for the players". If we as fans want to make a big statement, we have to stop going to games in numbers. As above anything else, this statement shows no one at the top of the club still gets how big a deal and how serious this situation is, and why something decisive, substantial and genuine must happen to resolve it. Well, you know what happened down here. Fans did stay away and it seemed like some sort of effort was put in to 'make change effectively' so its over to the Clan fans to respond and Elite itself also needs to tread carefully now after last seasons play offs.
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 7, 2022 7:20:59 GMT
This could well yet have a bigger impact on Panthers. Somebody, or people could start communicating with Panthers sponsors explaining the actions, or lack of taken by the owner of both clubs and those sponsors could then follow those at the Clan. I currently see this as unlikely but it wouldn't take much to at least peak their interest. Then of course it could be Clans lack of income that causes savings at Panthers to happen. We are told they are two seperate businesses, but a huge hit to Black and the Cartel in the pockets will have to be made up somewhere.
You'd like to think other EIHL owners would be pressuring Black to sort this out. With these boys though you just never know.
As ever 1 step forward, 2 steps back for the EIHL.
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Post by DonClaneone on Oct 7, 2022 8:48:01 GMT
More sponsors suspending their association with the Clan.
It really beggars belief that the club have handled this situation and made so much of a mess that the very future of the club is being threatened, all because the powers that be can't be bothered to communicate with the sponsors.
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 7, 2022 9:03:13 GMT
How long before players start jumping ship? I wouldn't be suprised to see something happen in the next few weeks. They arn't going to want to be jobless, regardless of the cause so they will all still be there for now. I'd bet agents are finding new clubs as we speak and then the usual 2 weeks notice to be served.
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Post by Discoray on Oct 7, 2022 10:39:39 GMT
Another sponsor out, and the club's Graphics Designer has also resigned.
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Post by Discoray on Oct 7, 2022 11:01:11 GMT
Make that yet another sponsor:
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 7, 2022 11:05:32 GMT
Can these sponsors insist their names be removed from the ice? Another cost impact to re do it all.
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Post by Discoray on Oct 7, 2022 11:09:23 GMT
Can these sponsors insist their names be removed from the ice? Another cost impact to re do it all. Sponsors have said to the club they wish to be removed from the club's website and voice announcements, and not asking at this time to tape ad boards or re-do the ice.
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Post by DonClaneone on Oct 7, 2022 13:03:30 GMT
I know we are separate clubs but is it appropriate for the Panthers to be announcing new sponsors when our sponsors are suspending their partnerships?
I'm sorry if this annoys any of you but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth
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Post by float on Oct 7, 2022 13:48:42 GMT
I know we are separate clubs but is it appropriate for the Panthers to be announcing new sponsors when our sponsors are suspending their partnerships? I'm sorry if this annoys any of you but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth Doesn't annoy me at all. But I only see us as separate clubs I'm afraid so I don't personally think there's anything wrong with Panthers going about their day-to-day stuff. Besides the name of the owner, the Clan fiasco is nothing to do with us in my eyes.
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Post by Fez on Oct 7, 2022 14:01:09 GMT
Can I get a factual recap on everything that has happened since they announced the signing please?
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Post by Discoray on Oct 7, 2022 14:47:26 GMT
Clan Press Officer Craig Anderson has now resigned.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2022 15:11:33 GMT
They didn't abandon the Titanic this bad!
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 7, 2022 15:45:25 GMT
I know we are separate clubs but is it appropriate for the Panthers to be announcing new sponsors when our sponsors are suspending their partnerships? I'm sorry if this annoys any of you but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth No not at all. We had years of shoddy ownership and management but this time they have really excelled themselves. You need to get David Brent and Alan Partridge on the staff up there and it couldn’t be worse.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 7, 2022 16:12:23 GMT
And now up for sale supposedly
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Post by Yotes on Oct 7, 2022 17:22:22 GMT
And now up for sale supposedly Every cloud... Might be their best hope of survival at this point tbh. Can't see many wanting to replace the lost sponsors while Neil & The BBs are in charge.
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Post by kievthegreat on Oct 7, 2022 17:28:27 GMT
Can I get a factual recap on everything that has happened since they announced the signing please? - Tweeted that the player would no longer be joining them
- Statement from Neil Black that Chalmers (CEO) and Cameron (Head Coach) were suspended pending investigation
- Statement that Cameron would return to his role, cryptic about Chalmers and a really poor apology.
- A steady stream of sponsors leave, including the title sponsor
- Resignations from the Commercial Director and now the Media Manager (who conducted the car crash interview)
- New statement from NB with something approaching an apology, a call to arms to try and hold on to sponsors and fans, states that the club is up for sale.
clanihc.com/statement-neil-black-clan-chairman/
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Post by iginla on Oct 7, 2022 17:30:46 GMT
And now up for sale supposedly Somebody will want to buy it,there’s money to be made. BUT if Neil Black is still basically the arena landlord I’d want a cast iron and totally watertight deal in place for years ahead before i even thought about buying them !
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 7, 2022 18:25:09 GMT
And now up for sale supposedly Every cloud... Might be their best hope of survival at this point tbh. Can't see many wanting to replace the lost sponsors while Neil & The BBs are in charge. It’s going to take a miracle at this point but then again it is the EIHL
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 7, 2022 18:26:36 GMT
And now up for sale supposedly Somebody will want to buy it,there’s money to be made. BUT if Neil Black is still basically the arena landlord I’d want a cast iron and totally watertight deal in place for years ahead before i even thought about buying them ! There wouldn’t be enough barge poles
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Post by spik on Oct 7, 2022 19:49:29 GMT
I know we are separate clubs but is it appropriate for the Panthers to be announcing new sponsors when our sponsors are suspending their partnerships? I'm sorry if this annoys any of you but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth You mean we should have gained a new sponsor deal, which basically means we have a partnership to promote their being BUT then not do that? ?? Wouldn’t that then put us also into jeopardy? Sorry we are not here to ruin the sport in one fell swoop.
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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 8, 2022 9:22:26 GMT
And now up for sale supposedly Could it not be argued that Black made this move to protect Panthers from potentially losing sponsors?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2022 9:54:08 GMT
And now up for sale supposedly Could it not be argued that Black made this move to protect Panthers from potentially losing sponsors? So black going back to being a one club owner as well... 🤔
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 8, 2022 10:13:49 GMT
And now up for sale supposedly Could it not be argued that Black made this move to protect Panthers from potentially losing sponsors? Goodness knows but at the moment is spiraling out of control and all of those over the years who thought it was business acumen rather than shooting fish in a barrel will know better now. Absolute amateur hour
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