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Post by wgray on Jul 11, 2022 19:04:48 GMT
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Jul 11, 2022 19:15:49 GMT
Like Swindelhurst, Moore hasn't lived up his potential. Thought that going to Cardiff would see him step up but it didnt work out. He ought to be in the GB team but he's found himself behind Clements and Tetlow. Maybe this is his (last) chance.
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Post by bobness on Jul 11, 2022 20:03:07 GMT
Averaged over 20 minutes a night at Dundee last season, with an even +/-.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 11, 2022 20:14:46 GMT
Thought that going to Cardiff would see him step up but it didnt work out. Weird one his time at Cardiff. You would think spending two seasons with the greatest defenceman to ever play the sport might so him some good. Perhaps he was understandably overawed. |
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Post by wgray on Jul 11, 2022 21:33:02 GMT
I think on the whole Moore is an upgrade on Lee, especially if he’s not even going to be available next season.
Thinking about the defence as a whole though, with Brassard already signed this leaves us with 4 spots to fill. As much as I would have liked Gagnon to have been signed for his fighting and entertainment I’m not sure he fits now with the players we already have. This is how I see the defence shaping up.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Jul 11, 2022 21:46:57 GMT
Good signing, still young but has some solid experience behind him. Knows Pacha well clearly and should come in eager to do well, sort of his last roll of the dice to play at a decent level (higher end of the EIHL or even push on into the continent) if he settles in well and Graham gets the best out of him.
Seemingly Steve Lee has finished at Nottingham, with Hazeldine as the 7th D already confirmed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2022 22:51:47 GMT
I think on the whole Moore is an upgrade on Lee, especially if he’s not even going to be available next season. Thinking about the defence as a whole though, with Brassard already signed this leaves us with 4 spots to fill. As much as I would have liked Gagnon to have been signed for his fighting and entertainment I’m not sure he fits now with the players we already have. This is how I see the defence shaping up. Import - Import Import - Import Brassard - Moore I'm hearing Gagnon has signed ... I think the roster has it stands is night and day from last year's... Moore is a decent signing on the back end. Be nice if he forces his way back into the GB setup |
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Post by KC93 on Jul 11, 2022 23:07:29 GMT
I think on the whole Moore is an upgrade on Lee, especially if he’s not even going to be available next season. Thinking about the defence as a whole though, with Brassard already signed this leaves us with 4 spots to fill. As much as I would have liked Gagnon to have been signed for his fighting and entertainment I’m not sure he fits now with the players we already have. This is how I see the defence shaping up. Import - Import Import - Import Brassard - Moore I'm hearing Gagnon has signed ... I think the roster has it stands is night and day from last year's... Moore is a decent signing on the back end. Be nice if he forces his way back into the GB setup Heard the same, would have preferred the deterrent to be a forward but if GG can add a couple of gritty forwards who put up points but can fight if needed then I think we’ll be on par with our title rivals in terms of toughness. |
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Post by Pies on Jul 12, 2022 7:44:14 GMT
The Brit pack is a lot stronger with the additions of Moore and Ferrara. Poaching 2 of the better Brits in one off season is a coup for any club. For once it’s nice that it’s us doing it.
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Post by yeti on Jul 12, 2022 8:24:03 GMT
Is the Brit pack really that much stronger? Moore replaces Tetlow, not much difference for me. Ferrara replaces Betteridge, more goals but not so defensive and lower work rate.
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Post by KC93 on Jul 12, 2022 9:14:02 GMT
Is the Brit pack really that much stronger? Moore replaces Tetlow, not much difference for me. Ferrara replaces Betteridge, more goals but not so defensive and lower work rate. Well import quality brits are rare and Brit snipers of import quality are even rarer which is why it’s taken 5 years to replace David Clarke. Betteridge is decent but he’s a 3rd line Grinder and they are more common in this league than players like Ferrara. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 9:16:06 GMT
Is the Brit pack really that much stronger? Moore replaces Tetlow, not much difference for me. Ferrara replaces Betteridge, more goals but not so defensive and lower work rate. He's miles better than Tetlow 🤣. Ferrara is a 20-25+ goals Brit forward. Big upgrade on both. Ferrara is a top 6 forward. Betteridge is a bottom 6 grinder/shut down forward nothing more . |
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 12, 2022 10:19:36 GMT
Is the Brit pack really that much stronger? Moore replaces Tetlow, not much difference for me. Ferrara replaces Betteridge, more goals but not so defensive and lower work rate. He's miles better than Tetlow 🤣. Ferrara is a 20-25+ goals Brit forward. Big upgrade on both. Ferrara is a top 6 forward. Betteridge is a bottom 6 grinder/shut down forward nothing more . This. You can find a Betteridge type import easily enough, hell we've been signing that ilk of import for the past few years!! Ferrara is a huge capture imo, if we are to compete this is the sort of top end Brit we should be consistently coveting. Any of the other big teams would have taken Ferrara for sure. |
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Post by yeti on Jul 12, 2022 11:44:42 GMT
Yes it's good (and about time we had a clarke replacement) to have an import quality goal scoring Brit. To me though for our Brits to be miles better than last year we would still have a Betteridge (I don't count Kelsal as being at the right level yet) type of Brit player + Ferrara as well.
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Post by Pies on Jul 12, 2022 12:19:21 GMT
Yes it's good (and about time we had a clarke replacement) to have an import quality goal scoring Brit. To me though for our Brits to be miles better than last year we would still have a Betteridge (I don't count Kelsal as being at the right level yet) type of Brit player + Ferrara as well. But we’ve got Hopkins who will be a force to be reckoned with in a few years. Kelsall will fill in for Ollie absolutely fine. |
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Post by fyfe on Jul 12, 2022 14:55:42 GMT
Ollie is milea better than Kelsall. I think ollie is a bit of a loss and cannot compare to Ferrara at all, different players. However ollie does have a wicked shot when he decides to shoot!
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Post by bobness on Jul 12, 2022 16:05:16 GMT
Ollie is milea better than Kelsall. I think ollie is a bit of a loss and cannot compare to Ferrara at all, different players. However ollie does have a wicked shot when he decides to shoot! Ollie wasn't the leading powerplay goal scorer in the league last year though. And the PP has needed attention for a while. Kelsall should be looking to double his points from last season at least? |
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Post by fyfe on Jul 12, 2022 19:03:27 GMT
Ollie is milea better than Kelsall. I think ollie is a bit of a loss and cannot compare to Ferrara at all, different players. However ollie does have a wicked shot when he decides to shoot! Ollie wasn't the leading powerplay goal scorer in the league last year though. And the PP has needed attention for a while. Kelsall should be looking to double his points from last season at least? |
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Post by fyfe on Jul 12, 2022 19:04:09 GMT
Ollie wasn't the leading powerplay goal scorer in the league last year though. And the PP has needed attention for a while. Kelsall should be looking to double his points from last season at least? Not sure what you mean I didnt mention the pp.... confused |
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Post by Yotes on Jul 12, 2022 19:47:03 GMT
Not sure what you mean I didnt mention the pp.... confused Ferrara was the leading PP goal scorer last season, well, joint. I agree though that Betteridge is a loss, and Kelsall is nowhere near. I'd still have us in a positive overall over last season in the Brit department. |
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Post by Robbie Nud on Jul 13, 2022 7:07:34 GMT
Is the Brit pack really that much stronger? Moore replaces Tetlow, not much difference for me. Ferrara replaces Betteridge, more goals but not so defensive and lower work rate. He's miles better than Tetlow 🤣. Ferrara is a 20-25+ goals Brit forward. Big upgrade on both. Ferrara is a top 6 forward. Betteridge is a bottom 6 grinder/shut down forward nothing more . If Moore is miles better than Tetlow, how he was not the GB squad, but Tetlow was? And at the worlds Tetlow was one of the better Dmen according to reports. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 7:26:57 GMT
He's miles better than Tetlow 🤣. Ferrara is a 20-25+ goals Brit forward. Big upgrade on both. Ferrara is a top 6 forward. Betteridge is a bottom 6 grinder/shut down forward nothing more . If Moore is miles better than Tetlow, how he was not the GB squad, but Tetlow was? And at the worlds Tetlow was one of the better Dmen according to reports. That's another mystery.. I wouldn't have Tetlow as a GB regular perhaps they think of his size he can be useful but he has alot of errors in his game |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 7:30:22 GMT
Ollie wasn't the leading powerplay goal scorer in the league last year though. And the PP has needed attention for a while. Kelsall should be looking to double his points from last season at least? This season is kelsalls last chance.. he's almost 23 he needs to step up his production now I think. We need everyone to contribute on those bottom 2 lines The player I try to compare him to his lewis Hook.. while hook maybe 3 years older hes scored almost 40 ... Kelsall in on 4.. |
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Post by bobness on Jul 13, 2022 10:26:13 GMT
This season is kelsalls last chance.. he's almost 23 he needs to step up his production now I think. We need everyone to contribute on those bottom 2 lines The player I try to compare him to his lewis Hook.. while hook maybe 3 years older hes scored almost 40 ... Kelsall in on 4.. Indeed. He needs to be looking at 15 points this year from a 3/4th line/PK role, about 12 minutes a night, I'd say. Hook played on Giants' third line much of last year and had a career year, and is bigger and older. I liked the look of Hook when he was a Panther. |
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Post by yeti on Jul 13, 2022 11:38:45 GMT
Hook is the player we needed to replace Ollie with, along with bringing in Ferrera for me to say our Brit pack was miles better than last year. Instead for me the Brits are better but not miles better.
GB team players often don't seem to be that logical. Tetlow ahead of some of the other British D, including Moore and Ferrera barely getting a game with GB when they need a goal scorer and Lacho still getting game time. But who am I to question considering how well they have done in recent years?
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