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Post by kievthegreat on May 27, 2022 10:33:43 GMT
www.panthers.co.uk/home/220526-devilsThe Nottingham Panthers & Cardiff Devils will meet across the weekend of September 3rd & 4th with the Aladdin Cup on the line. It'll be another early season Saturday night hockey night in Nottingham as the Motorpoint Arena hosts the first game between the sides on September 3rd, face-off 7.00pm, before the Panthers travel down to Cardiff Bay on September 4th for the second encounter. Ticket information will be released in due course. CEO Omar Pacha spoke to panthers.co.uk about the announcement: "This will be another great test for us before the season gets underway in earnest. "We're taking on Sheffield the weekend prior & adding these games against Cardiff to our pre-season gives Head Coach Gary Graham & our roster the chance to scope out, & get a real feel for, the teams we'll be competing with at the top end of the table. "Plus the Aladdin Cup is on the line & lifting a trophy that early on, especially if you've never won one before, can really give you the taste for wanting to make sure you end the season holding one up when it really counts so I know the team will be giving it there all so we can hit the ground running when the league campaign gets underway on September 10th.
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Post by Yotes on May 27, 2022 11:00:22 GMT
Presumably that's likely to be it in terms of preseason games?
It's a shame we don't see a few different teams for these games tbh, the old days of someone coming from Europe seem to be over.
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Post by kievthegreat on May 27, 2022 11:47:25 GMT
I enjoyed seeing other teams come over, not just to break the monotony of playing Devils and Steelers (formerly Clan) ad nauseam, but they were often better quality games.
Fingers crossed for next year we get people being a bit more adventurous.
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Post by wannabe2 on May 27, 2022 11:58:29 GMT
People don’t want to queue at pathetic UK airports.
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Post by Discoray on May 27, 2022 11:59:17 GMT
It's a shame we don't see a few different teams for these games tbh, the old days of someone coming from Europe seem to be over. I suspect costs involved will be cited as the reason why no EIHL team thus far has (or will) get in a team from Europe. Hopefully they all get back to it next pre-season, as it really does help in mixing things up a bit. |
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Post by iginla on May 27, 2022 12:27:55 GMT
Very predictable ! 🙄
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Post by blackandgold73 on May 27, 2022 14:16:42 GMT
The announcement? Or the comment 😉 Don't worry Iggy after negotiating the disadvantages of the new coach having a chance to feel out consistently competitive opponents before the season starts (when results count) more innovative new beginnings fixtures are coming... It's not been announced yet, so don't spread it around, but the following week Panthers will be taking on... ....Italy's top rugby sevens team and then, three days later, the Netherlands underwater hockey team. Now *that* will set them up for the season nicely 😂 Yeah okay so it's not exactly breaking new ground, but, in the current climate, at least it's breaking good and useful ground right? |
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Post by jd on May 27, 2022 18:56:02 GMT
Some fans will moan and complain no matter what we do as a club.
New ceo, coach, more comms than most of us can remember, website updated, q&a session and the promise of a signing. We now have 4 fixtures confirmed.
Not sure what more OP could have done.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 27, 2022 19:16:10 GMT
Not sure what more OP could have done. Needs to be more 'Iginla' next time, obviously. |
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Post by blackandgold73 on May 27, 2022 21:55:29 GMT
Not sure what more OP could have done. Needs to be more 'Iginla' next time, obviously. Though where those particular shifting goalposts are at any one time is anyone's guess |
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Post by Yotes on May 27, 2022 22:20:51 GMT
Not sure what more OP could have done. Arrange 4 more interesting fixtures?  Hopefully Ray's right and it's just a temporary costs thing. |
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Post by iginla on May 28, 2022 7:38:42 GMT
Not sure what more OP could have done. Arrange 4 more interesting fixtures? Hopefully Ray's right and it's just a temporary costs thing. Exactly. As if they don’t play Steelers often enough. 🙄 They may have changed a few things lately but make no mistake that lovely jubbly cash will always still come first ! |
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Post by DMS on May 28, 2022 13:53:01 GMT
I don’t mind the preseason choices this year with a new coach coming in allowing him to see how we measure up against our local rival and teams we should be competing with.
I’m not naive enough to thing there is a cost saving measure for teams in this also, however if people want to go and see some euro teams just go on a little holiday and watch some rather than have some expectation we should get then here for a pre season game.
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Post by iginla on May 28, 2022 15:33:59 GMT
I don’t mind the preseason choices this year with a new coach coming in allowing him to see how we measure up against our local rival and teams we should be competing with. I’m not naive enough to thing there is a cost saving measure for teams in this also, however if people want to go and see some euro teams just go on a little holiday and watch some rather than have some expectation we should get then here for a pre season game. Yes but there are seven other EIHL teams they could have played without playing the usual fayre again ! Checking out how they measure up is fine but if Panthers got beat 5-0 in all four warm up games the new coach ain’t going to suddenly fire half a dozen new guys and replace them so it’s rather flawed thinking that reason. |
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Post by bobness on May 28, 2022 15:36:01 GMT
Arrange 4 more interesting fixtures? Hopefully Ray's right and it's just a temporary costs thing. Exactly. As if they don’t play Steelers often enough. 🙄 They may have changed a few things lately but make no mistake that lovely jubbly cash will always still come first ! Lol. I thought you used to run a business? “Yeah, that’ll take me 3 weeks. Tell you what, I’ll commute from Bristol and charge you £35.” Pre season games are glorified training sessions. Steelers and Devils are fine by me. No use playing some Finnish third division outfit, no matter how “interesting” that might be. |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on May 28, 2022 15:52:44 GMT
Not bothered about a Steelers game if it helps raise the squad budget rather than another team and have three people watching
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Post by blackandgold73 on May 28, 2022 17:23:48 GMT
I don’t mind the preseason choices this year with a new coach coming in allowing him to see how we measure up against our local rival and teams we should be competing with. I’m not naive enough to thing there is a cost saving measure for teams in this also, however if people want to go and see some euro teams just go on a little holiday and watch some rather than have some expectation we should get then here for a pre season game. Yes but there are seven other EIHL teams they could have played without playing the usual fayre again ! Checking out how they measure up is fine but if Panthers got beat 5-0 in all four warm up games the new coach ain’t going to suddenly fire half a dozen new guys and replace them so it’s rather flawed thinking that reason. Who said anything about it being seeing who to cut? Or anything like that. Oh wait... no-one. What a surprise. Hmmmm play a top team for a true test and get more revenue, or play a lower team which won't test your systems as well and get less revenue to invest in the team? What business did you run... Bankruptcy court? Anyway, back to the reality: having seen the systems the other top teams are running gives Graham a chance to see how his systems are working against them and adjust if necessary. Because of the work against a to team they should work against a lesser team the inverse isn't true. After all it's only his second season on an Olympic ice sheet and Graham clearly stated he knows certain systems work better in the bigger ice. So he gets to test them out before it counts. See if he needs to make any adjustments, tweak the lines, any of the things that might help the team improve. You know, any of the *actual* previously stated reasons for having the preseason. But don't let those pesky facts get in the way again |
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Post by DMS on May 28, 2022 17:58:19 GMT
I don’t mind the preseason choices this year with a new coach coming in allowing him to see how we measure up against our local rival and teams we should be competing with. I’m not naive enough to thing there is a cost saving measure for teams in this also, however if people want to go and see some euro teams just go on a little holiday and watch some rather than have some expectation we should get then here for a pre season game. Yes but there are seven other EIHL teams they could have played without playing the usual fayre again ! Checking out how they measure up is fine but if Panthers got beat 5-0 in all four warm up games the new coach ain’t going to suddenly fire half a dozen new guys and replace them so it’s rather flawed thinking that reason. They could just as easily go and win all games 5-0 though couldn’t they? Then it looks like genius thinking to set such a marker down. We’ve all been crying out for change within the organisation and it’s happening, I really don’t think the selection of 4 pre season games should be anywhere near the top of the list (if on a list at all) for gripes at this stage! |
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Post by iginla on May 28, 2022 18:08:38 GMT
Yes but there are seven other EIHL teams they could have played without playing the usual fayre again ! Checking out how they measure up is fine but if Panthers got beat 5-0 in all four warm up games the new coach ain’t going to suddenly fire half a dozen new guys and replace them so it’s rather flawed thinking that reason. Who said anything about it being seeing who to cut? Or anything like that. Oh wait... no-one. What a surprise. Hmmmm play a top team for a true test and get more revenue, or play a lower team which won't test your systems as well and get less revenue to invest in the team? What business did you run... Bankruptcy court? Anyway, back to the reality: having seen the systems the other top teams are running gives Graham a chance to see how his systems are working against them and adjust if necessary. Because of the work against a to team they should work against a lesser team the inverse isn't true. After all it's only his second season on an Olympic ice sheet and Graham clearly stated he knows certain systems work better in the bigger ice. So he gets to test them out before it counts. See if he needs to make any adjustments, tweak the lines, any of the things that might help the team improve. You know, any of the *actual* previously stated reasons for having the preseason. But don't let those pesky facts get in the way again He said himself and so did the Panthers O/S to see how they measure up against other “teams they’ll be vying with at the top” (they hope”. So let’s see,if it goes really badly and they’re obviously not good enough what’s he going to do ? Nothing on the player front,like I already said he ain’t going to cut them. Oh and meaningless glorified training sessions that certainly aren’t a “true test” mean jack all when it comes to the proper stuff, even if there is a made up tinpot trophy on the line that nobody cares about winning ! Like I said,it’s all about money again even if the fans do swallow the BS that’s spouted about “stacking up” and “true tests”. One things for sure,that extra revenue from playing the predictable twosome yet again won’t get spent on better players ! |
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Post by iginla on May 28, 2022 18:11:22 GMT
Yes but there are seven other EIHL teams they could have played without playing the usual fayre again ! Checking out how they measure up is fine but if Panthers got beat 5-0 in all four warm up games the new coach ain’t going to suddenly fire half a dozen new guys and replace them so it’s rather flawed thinking that reason. They could just as easily go and win all games 5-0 though couldn’t they? Then it looks like genius thinking to set such a marker down. We’ve all been crying out for change within the organisation and it’s happening, I really don’t think the selection of 4 pre season games should be anywhere near the top of the list (if on a list at all) for gripes at this stage! Quite...change. It ain’t in the friendlies,one could have thought it might extend,but sadly it’s the same old same old again. |
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Post by jd on May 28, 2022 18:53:36 GMT
Who said anything about it being seeing who to cut? Or anything like that. Oh wait... no-one. What a surprise. Hmmmm play a top team for a true test and get more revenue, or play a lower team which won't test your systems as well and get less revenue to invest in the team? What business did you run... Bankruptcy court? Anyway, back to the reality: having seen the systems the other top teams are running gives Graham a chance to see how his systems are working against them and adjust if necessary. Because of the work against a to team they should work against a lesser team the inverse isn't true. After all it's only his second season on an Olympic ice sheet and Graham clearly stated he knows certain systems work better in the bigger ice. So he gets to test them out before it counts. See if he needs to make any adjustments, tweak the lines, any of the things that might help the team improve. You know, any of the *actual* previously stated reasons for having the preseason. But don't let those pesky facts get in the way again He said himself and so did the Panthers O/S to see how they measure up against other “teams they’ll be vying with at the top” (they hope”. So let’s see,if it goes really badly and they’re obviously not good enough what’s he going to do ? Nothing on the player front,like I already said he ain’t going to cut them. Oh and meaningless glorified training sessions that certainly aren’t a “true test” mean jack all when it comes to the proper stuff, even if there is a made up tinpot trophy on the line that nobody cares about winning ! Like I said,it’s all about money again even if the fans do swallow the BS that’s spouted about “stacking up” and “true tests”. One things for sure,that extra revenue from playing the predictable twosome yet again won’t get spent on better players ! Well, I’m sure you’ll be delighted when it all goes wrong and you can tell us you’re the new Jon Cooper. As an ex panthers fan you comment a lot |
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Post by DonClaneone on May 29, 2022 12:50:14 GMT
I miss the games against European teams, as a Clan fan I've seen us against Amiens & Asiago.
Then in the CHL against Ingolstadt & Växjö Lakers
Those last two were pretty tough, gubbed in both away games but more than held our own at Braehead, lost 3-1 against the Lakers and beat Ingolstadt but that only happened because they pulled their goalie. Something to do with goal difference I think it was.
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Post by kievthegreat on May 29, 2022 20:42:43 GMT
I miss the games against European teams, as a Clan fan I've seen us against Amiens & Asiago. Then in the CHL against Ingolstadt & Växjö Lakers Those last two were pretty tough, gubbed in both away games but more than held our own at Braehead, lost 3-1 against the Lakers and beat Ingolstadt but that only happened because they pulled their goalie. Something to do with goal difference I think it was. CHL use the same points system as IIHF, giving an extra point for regulation wins. I believe they pulled the goalie when level because they needed the additional point. |
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