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Post by Yotes on Apr 7, 2022 21:32:44 GMT
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Post by jd on Apr 7, 2022 21:39:48 GMT
Sounds like GD is done lol
Not sure what else to expect from him tbh. Nothing he said surprised me.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 7, 2022 21:47:40 GMT
Yeah Doucet's definitely a goner.
I think blaming the NHL for us being unable to sign anyone was a bit of a stretch, and the netminder situation is entirely of our doing, that the injury hit Carr after the deadline just highlights it. All the other teams on our budget (lols) have a pair of senior netminders.
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Post by iginla on Apr 7, 2022 21:58:26 GMT
Wouldn’t believe a word of it,he’s just paying lip service to the fans in a very obviously scripted interview.
Heard it all before and nothing changes.
Support and the fans have been incredible eh,where did he get that from when crowds have been poor. And the team were doing really well apparently,when was that as they’ve been miles adrift of the top three and languishing mid table since well before Christmas.
Can’t get new players in,that’s cobblers when Sheffield and Cardiff have brought them in.
Injuries,who’s fault is that,it’s the clubs for not covering it in the first place then not reacting to it.
Kerlin not having played,again who’s fault is that,yep the clubs again.
Same budget as the others,yeah right o Neil.
There will be a new coach,Doucet will be gone (but from what I hear leave first of his own choice) and the wage cap will remain in place.
Nothing much will change on the ice unless he’s prepared to bust the cap and that’s not likely to happen.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 7, 2022 22:18:21 GMT
The thing about the signing limit is interesting, because he's right. You were allowed to sign a max of 28 for the season, but had to save 1 as the NM spare. Our 27 so far:
Imports (18)
Carr, Norrish, Brassard, Matheson, Thow, Massy, Welsh, Domingue, Lane, Carozza, Tousignant, Boivin, Baillargeon, Richards, Hedberg, Doherty, Suoranta, Jokinen.
Brits (9)
Kerlin, Lee, Tetlow, Myers, Betteridge, Kelsall, Sheldon, Clarke-Pizzo, Hopkins
But the other day we also played Dan Green, so that's the full 28, surely? Are we going to cheat if we now sign a netminder for the playoffs?
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Post by John Casey on Apr 7, 2022 22:29:55 GMT
The thing about the signing limit is interesting, because he's right. You were allowed to sign a max of 28 for the season, but had to save 1 as the NM spare. Our 27 so far: Imports (18) Carr, Norrish, Brassard, Matheson, Thow, Massy, Welsh, Domingue, Lane, Carozza, Tousignant, Boivin, Baillargeon, Richards, Hedberg, Doherty, Suoranta, Jokinen. Brits (9) Kerlin, Lee, Tetlow, Myers, Betteridge, Kelsall, Sheldon, Clarke-Pizzo, Hopkins But the other day we also played Dan Green, so that's the full 28, surely? Are we going to cheat if we now sign a netminder for the playoffs? Maybe if Green iced (Could be why he wasn't put in)
Maybe if it's in case of Injury (IR) not a release that we can sign an Emergency N/M and it not count towards the 28
Only guessing out loud
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 22:30:00 GMT
The thing about the signing limit is interesting, because he's right. You were allowed to sign a max of 28 for the season, but had to save 1 as the NM spare. Our 27 so far: Imports (18) Carr, Norrish, Brassard, Matheson, Thow, Massy, Welsh, Domingue, Lane, Carozza, Tousignant, Boivin, Baillargeon, Richards, Hedberg, Doherty, Suoranta, Jokinen. Brits (9) Kerlin, Lee, Tetlow, Myers, Betteridge, Kelsall, Sheldon, Clarke-Pizzo, Hopkins But the other day we also played Dan Green, so that's the full 28, surely? Are we going to cheat if we now sign a netminder for the playoffs? Steelers have iced 30 players over the season so I wouldn't worry too much. |
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Post by Yotes on Apr 7, 2022 22:32:52 GMT
That's the asterisk should the worst happen then. Out of interest Jono Bullard, how have they got away with that? The regs were quite clear. Same old Steelers, always cheating? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 22:54:22 GMT
That's the asterisk should the worst happen then. Out of interest Jono Bullard , how have they got away with that? The regs were quite clear. Same old Steelers, always cheating? I guess they'll be some loophole and I haven't checked any of the other teams, so there may be others. It's all on the EIHL website though on the teams player stats page. |
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Post by iginla on Apr 7, 2022 22:58:44 GMT
That's the asterisk should the worst happen then. Out of interest Jono Bullard, how have they got away with that? The regs were quite clear. Same old Steelers, always cheating? Steelers management is obviously smarter than Panthers management that’s how they’ve done it. |
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Post by Yotes on Apr 7, 2022 23:03:00 GMT
Maybe they got a special case for old Cheech & Chong getting banned?
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 7, 2022 23:10:19 GMT
That's the asterisk should the worst happen then. Out of interest Jono Bullard, how have they got away with that? The regs were quite clear. Same old Steelers, always cheating? That is interesting wording. Registered. IE registered with *the league* as an EIHL player (not paid for by the team) Steelers last two players incoming (Boruta and Feldner) that *appears* at first glance to take them over the 28 players were specifically highlighted at the time as *loan* players from Innsbruck, one of whom has multi year deal. So my suspicion is that they have indeed found a loophole and that both players (as was emphasised at the time) are still technically Innsbruck contracted players registered with the league there. So it would seem that if a player has a contract elsewhere and is thus *registered in another league*, signing them "on loan" gets you around the maximum number you can have registered with the Elite League. Sneaky but clever |
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 7, 2022 23:22:08 GMT
Sounds like a full shake up in the office and management structure to me. But so much of this had been said before in the rare NB appearances it's a bit galling to think putting this out will make things better. Doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results is a definition of madness. Perhaps a full *root* and branch approach is the only way forwards And yet for me the key take away is simply this... ... No team where things are going well, and "where the support has been great" has ever felt it had to put out an interview like this at any point. The fact NB has put his head above the parapet for once is a recognition that the team feels they're losing the fans good will and support. Whether it's a sticking plaster or the sign of surgery to come it's very necessity is an indication that things are not okay, and that they know the fans are fed up with things. |
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 7, 2022 23:33:44 GMT
The thing about the signing limit is interesting, because he's right. You were allowed to sign a max of 28 for the season, but had to save 1 as the NM spare. Our 27 so far: Imports (18) Carr, Norrish, Brassard, Matheson, Thow, Massy, Welsh, Domingue, Lane, Carozza, Tousignant, Boivin, Baillargeon, Richards, Hedberg, Doherty, Suoranta, Jokinen. Brits (9) Kerlin, Lee, Tetlow, Myers, Betteridge, Kelsall, Sheldon, Clarke-Pizzo, Hopkins But the other day we also played Dan Green, so that's the full 28, surely? Are we going to cheat if we now sign a netminder for the playoffs? And somehow Giants can put a potentially title winning squad together for the same budget apparently with less signings, and their last signing Patrick Mullen hasn't even iced for them yet a month after signing... |
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Post by wgray on Apr 7, 2022 23:50:37 GMT
The thing about the signing limit is interesting, because he's right. You were allowed to sign a max of 28 for the season, but had to save 1 as the NM spare. Our 27 so far: Imports (18) Carr, Norrish, Brassard, Matheson, Thow, Massy, Welsh, Domingue, Lane, Carozza, Tousignant, Boivin, Baillargeon, Richards, Hedberg, Doherty, Suoranta, Jokinen. Brits (9) Kerlin, Lee, Tetlow, Myers, Betteridge, Kelsall, Sheldon, Clarke-Pizzo, Hopkins But the other day we also played Dan Green, so that's the full 28, surely? Are we going to cheat if we now sign a netminder for the playoffs? It depends on if they were signed permanently or just as injury cover. Jokinen for example was brought in as injury cover for Domingue and he had left before Domingue had returned to the line-up. Technically I don’t think he was ever an addition. It would be good if the league could publicly show their record of the IR cover and squad numbers for the fans. Of course, they will have lost track themselves… |
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Post by Yotes on Apr 8, 2022 0:04:39 GMT
Could well be right there wgray, although I think Sean Richards is still IR for Steve Lee, so that'd mean we'd have had plenty of space to bring in a spare import NM before the deadline, Neil... (100% on the roster lists too, but they'd probably have to reformat the website every time Sheffield cheat.) |
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Post by bobness on Apr 8, 2022 6:53:59 GMT
The leagues own blurb said it would track roster sizes and signings on the website.
It hasn’t.
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Post by Robbie Nud on Apr 8, 2022 7:48:14 GMT
Poor crowds, shipping over 20 goals in three games, low standard team, headless chicken management. Season ticket applications out; lets get the owner to say a few comforting words to the faithful to reassure them that things will be better next year.
Radio interview? was it that he didn't to be seen with a bermudan beach in the background, or Dan's beard tickling his fancy?
So the same budget as the top three, eh. Well either tousignant is the highest paid 4th liner outside of the NHL or Piccinich was on the same rate as a 16 year old server at KFC. So we cant' sign a replacement NM from outside the league because of the rules, well he was one that made the rules, did that nugget not get passed to the DoH?
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Post by Jord v4 on Apr 8, 2022 8:02:38 GMT
Sounds like GD is done lol Not sure what else to expect from him tbh. Nothing he said surprised me. Doucet was gone the same time Wallace left. He was actually told at that time it's either you or him now. By all accounts he can't wait to get out but he wants the pay off rather than walking. As for the budgets... Well that is total spherical objects, absolute rubbish. But we all already know this. I'm afraid the timing of this is frankly hilarious, it's a reassuring cash grab venture to any people on the fence over ST renewals. The club is rotten to its very core. |
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Post by iginla on Apr 8, 2022 8:21:21 GMT
That's the asterisk should the worst happen then. Out of interest Jono Bullard, how have they got away with that? The regs were quite clear. Same old Steelers, always cheating? That is interesting wording. Registered. IE registered with *the league* as an EIHL player (not paid for by the team) Steelers last two players incoming (Boruta and Feldner) that *appears* at first glance to take them over the 28 players were specifically highlighted at the time as *loan* players from Innsbruck, one of whom has multi year deal. So my suspicion is that they have indeed found a loophole and that both players (as was emphasised at the time) are still technically Innsbruck contracted players registered with the league there. So it would seem that if a player has a contract elsewhere and is thus *registered in another league*, signing them "on loan" gets you around the maximum number you can have registered with the Elite League. Sneaky but clever Could well be right. This is what happens when a teams management and owner has their finger on the pulse and one is so out of touch and lacks hockey expertise. |
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Post by jd on Apr 8, 2022 8:36:37 GMT
That is interesting wording. Registered. IE registered with *the league* as an EIHL player (not paid for by the team) Steelers last two players incoming (Boruta and Feldner) that *appears* at first glance to take them over the 28 players were specifically highlighted at the time as *loan* players from Innsbruck, one of whom has multi year deal. So my suspicion is that they have indeed found a loophole and that both players (as was emphasised at the time) are still technically Innsbruck contracted players registered with the league there. So it would seem that if a player has a contract elsewhere and is thus *registered in another league*, signing them "on loan" gets you around the maximum number you can have registered with the Elite League. Sneaky but clever Could well be right. This is what happens when a teams management and owner has their finger on the pulse and one is so out of touch and lacks hockey expertise. And the owner also happens to be the chairman of the league |
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Post by iginla on Apr 8, 2022 8:50:02 GMT
Sounds like a full shake up in the office and management structure to me. But so much of this had been said before in the rare NB appearances it's a bit galling to think putting this out will make things better. Doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results is a definition of madness. Perhaps a full *root* and branch approach is the only way forwards And yet for me the key take away is simply this... ... No team where things are going well, and "where the support has been great" has ever felt it had to put out an interview like this at any point. The fact NB has put his head above the parapet for once is a recognition that the team feels they're losing the fans good will and support. Whether it's a sticking plaster or the sign of surgery to come it's very necessity is an indication that things are not okay, and that they know the fans are fed up with things. Very true. What galls me is that it’s taken until crowds dropped alarmingly for him to react when previously they have always blindly ignored the fans concerns,treated them as mugs,closed ranks,said nothing and carried on with the same old thing year after year. Just as the fan base has always said,nothing will change while he’s making money and yet now he’s struggling all of a sudden he comes out with what he said yesterday. It’s like he’s really saying “we’ve taken the wee wee as long as we dare and didn’t need you previously,but now we’re in trouble we better pretend we’re going to have a massive change”. It just smacks that the only reason for his interview and proposed action is because he’s been forced into it financially. Quite how Black thinks he’s suddenly going to attract better imports and crucially some top Brits to a club with a bad rep though remains to be seen. |
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Post by iginla on Apr 8, 2022 8:54:26 GMT
Sounds like GD is done lol Not sure what else to expect from him tbh. Nothing he said surprised me. Doucet was gone the same time Wallace left. He was actually told at that time it's either you or him now. By all accounts he can't wait to get out but he wants the pay off rather than walking. As for the budgets... Well that is total spherical objects, absolute rubbish. But we all already know this. I'm afraid the timing of this is frankly hilarious, it's a reassuring cash grab venture to any people on the fence over ST renewals. The club is rotten to its very core. Spot on Jord. Six inch nail firmly hit with a sledgehammer ! |
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Post by Jord v4 on Apr 8, 2022 9:22:28 GMT
Doucet was gone the same time Wallace left. He was actually told at that time it's either you or him now. By all accounts he can't wait to get out but he wants the pay off rather than walking. As for the budgets... Well that is total spherical objects, absolute rubbish. But we all already know this. I'm afraid the timing of this is frankly hilarious, it's a reassuring cash grab venture to any people on the fence over ST renewals. The club is rotten to its very core. Spot on Jord. Six inch nail firmly hit with a sledgehammer ! Thank you my friend... But it's all so predictable this isn't it. We've seen it so many times. What have we said from day dot, the only way the fans/paying public can make change at Panthers is to vote with your feet. You have to hit them in the pocket for them to notice. This is a huge off season for the Panthers, there's so much broken at the club right now it's untrue. Many decisions have to be made correctly on both sides of the ice by people with either very little management experience or by this owner who we know is only there to make his profit. If I was a season ticket holder on the fence I would be pretty disgusted by the timing of this interview. It's pure bile. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2022 9:22:34 GMT
Unfortunately there's plenty in the fanbase which believes every word which comes out Black's mouth.. nothing can be done about that I'm afraid.
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