Robbie Nud
David Clarke
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Post by Robbie Nud on Mar 11, 2022 14:22:54 GMT
Not the worst, but in the top three.
Spence summed it up pretty well, and you can see the stuff on the various panthers fans facebook pages about those who criticise the team aren't proper fans and a true fan supports them no matter what. Well, they will be the ones crowding out the motorpoint on tuesday at the quiz night and offering themselves and other family members to the players for the opportunity to breathe the same air as their 'heroes'
I wont boo, regardless of how poor they play, that is me, but I also wont condemn someone for doing it when we have watched a display of shiteness that has been dished up. There is nothing wrong with criticism, so long as it is constructive, rather than for the sake of it which can be akin to trolling.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Mar 11, 2022 14:48:01 GMT
Problem is a good chunk of Panthers fans love some players because they’re funny in front of the camera, are interactive at player nights or just play the fan game with the punters. They wouldn’t know a good player from bad as long as he could chat,wave or dance ! to be fair to #43 he's not exactly had much opportunity to excel at the other things off the ice, but the problem is he's expected to do things on the ice that he's not capable of. He shouldn't have been on top line. He was scoring regularly in Romania, but the standard of hockey, and goal tending, is not as good as the EIHL My major concern with Tousi is and remains the fact the his play style tends to result in goals ... for the opposition. His defensive 'responsibilty' is open to question to me. When he's on the ice there's always a good chance we're going to get scored on, whatever line he's been on. Which is why he's hovered at the bottom of our plus/minutes ratings all season. Not necessarily a problem if he's scoring but a major issue when he's not. At -14 he's got a worse plus minutes then kelsall (-10) who you'd expect to get scored on given the role he's playing. With 10 League goals but a -14 rating he's 'expensive' for his points
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 11, 2022 15:24:44 GMT
to be fair to #43 he's not exactly had much opportunity to excel at the other things off the ice, but the problem is he's expected to do things on the ice that he's not capable of. He shouldn't have been on top line. He was scoring regularly in Romania, but the standard of hockey, and goal tending, is not as good as the EIHL My major concern with Tousi is and remains the fact the his play style tends to result in goals ... for the opposition. His defensive 'responsibilty' is open to question to me. When he's on the ice there's always a good chance we're going to get scored on, whatever line he's been on. Which is why he's hovered at the bottom of our plus/minutes ratings all season. Not necessarily a problem if he's scoring but a major issue when he's not. At -14 he's got a worse plus minutes then kelsall (-10) who you'd expect to get scored on given the role he's playing. With 10 League goals but a -14 rating he's 'expensive' for his points He couldn’t get a place in any other arena team. He’s no Daryl Lloyd.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 15:48:39 GMT
My major concern with Tousi is and remains the fact the his play style tends to result in goals ... for the opposition. His defensive 'responsibilty' is open to question to me. When he's on the ice there's always a good chance we're going to get scored on, whatever line he's been on. Which is why he's hovered at the bottom of our plus/minutes ratings all season. Not necessarily a problem if he's scoring but a major issue when he's not. At -14 he's got a worse plus minutes then kelsall (-10) who you'd expect to get scored on given the role he's playing. With 10 League goals but a -14 rating he's 'expensive' for his points He couldn’t get a place in any other arena team. He’s no Daryl Lloyd. Lloyd was hated.. which usually means he did a good job .. Tous ain't despised just laughed at he's about as effective as a chocolate fireguard!
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Post by bobness on Mar 11, 2022 17:05:25 GMT
to be fair to #43 he's not exactly had much opportunity to excel at the other things off the ice, but the problem is he's expected to do things on the ice that he's not capable of. He shouldn't have been on top line. He was scoring regularly in Romania, but the standard of hockey, and goal tending, is not as good as the EIHL My major concern with Tousi is and remains the fact the his play style tends to result in goals ... for the opposition. His defensive 'responsibilty' is open to question to me. When he's on the ice there's always a good chance we're going to get scored on, whatever line he's been on. Which is why he's hovered at the bottom of our plus/minutes ratings all season. Not necessarily a problem if he's scoring but a major issue when he's not. At -14 he's got a worse plus minutes then kelsall (-10) who you'd expect to get scored on given the role he's playing. With 10 League goals but a -14 rating he's 'expensive' for his points Agreed. Have a look at this as an example. He may have been at the end of his shift, to be fair, but he just coasts back into the zone, doesn't pick anyone up when he eventually gets there, and Fife are effectively playing 5 on 3.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 11, 2022 18:32:34 GMT
He couldn’t get a place in any other arena team. He’s no Daryl Lloyd. Lloyd was hated.. which usually means he did a good job .. Tous ain't despised just laughed at he's about as effective as a chocolate fireguard! And yet he was one of Doucets first signings?
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Post by bobness on Mar 11, 2022 18:51:09 GMT
Interesting turn, every post when he was signed was a positive one. Including posters above.
Have to say, I wasn't keen on the signing, I never really got the "love in" the first time. He talks a great game, he's a proper character, but he needs a role to play. Currently he's a bit lost. Thick end of a point a game earlier in the season, dry as the Sahara just now.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 11, 2022 19:11:00 GMT
Interesting turn, every post when he was signed was a positive one. Including posters above. Have to say, I wasn't keen on the signing, I never really got the "love in" the first time. He talks a great game, he's a proper character, but he needs a role to play. Currently he's a bit lost. Thick end of a point a game earlier in the season, dry as the Sahara just now. I agree and by all accounts he is great in the dressing room and a bit favourite with the players but he’s just ineffective and that’s in an already cheap team.
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Post by wgray on Mar 12, 2022 2:16:08 GMT
My major concern with Tousi is and remains the fact the his play style tends to result in goals ... for the opposition. His defensive 'responsibilty' is open to question to me. When he's on the ice there's always a good chance we're going to get scored on, whatever line he's been on. Which is why he's hovered at the bottom of our plus/minutes ratings all season. Not necessarily a problem if he's scoring but a major issue when he's not. At -14 he's got a worse plus minutes then kelsall (-10) who you'd expect to get scored on given the role he's playing. With 10 League goals but a -14 rating he's 'expensive' for his points Agreed. Have a look at this as an example. He may have been at the end of his shift, to be fair, but he just coasts back into the zone, doesn't pick anyone up when he eventually gets there, and Fife are effectively playing 5 on 3. Poor defensive cover from him and Baillargeon imo.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Mar 12, 2022 8:11:10 GMT
Lloyd was hated.. which usually means he did a good job .. Tous ain't despised just laughed at he's about as effective as a chocolate fireguard! And yet he was one of Doucets first signings? First doesn't necessarily mean most important. Could just be that he was available to sign at the right rate. And based on his initial performances I wasn't disappointed to see him back, in the same role. But he's not performing as well in a wider role, which may be why he's be mainly used as an agitator/shut down forward your in his career
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iginla
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Post by iginla on Mar 12, 2022 9:36:26 GMT
Lloyd was hated.. which usually means he did a good job .. Tous ain't despised just laughed at he's about as effective as a chocolate fireguard! And yet he was one of Doucets first signings? Tousignant = “Fan favourite” Office knows those types sell tickets. Enough said !
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