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Post by wgray on May 8, 2021 11:27:13 GMT
www.panthers.co.uk/home/210508-britsVery pleased to have both of them back in the black and gold. Throughout the Elite Series Tetlow looked like a really solid, reliable player in the d-zone and he looked much more composed in the offensive zone. He’s improved vastly. Ollie continued from where he left off in 19/20, providing energy on the forecheck, a goal scoring threat, bravery on the PK and leading by example, he’s turning into a real asset for us Nottingham fans. A good start to recruitment.
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Post by spik on May 8, 2021 14:21:57 GMT
Probable signings that have materialised. Happy enough with this, though I'd be a useless coach recruiting. I can continue to follow (as we all can) Lee and Betteridge's move on up the all-time players list with Tetlow adding to his own numbers.
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Post by kievthegreat on May 8, 2021 19:27:58 GMT
Lee and Tetlow gives a good Brit foundation to our D-corps. I'd happily go 4 import D-men with those 2 signed up.
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Post by Bagheera on May 8, 2021 21:04:55 GMT
It's really shaping up nicely. I'm a little suprised in myself as I've always supported 13/14 imports but as I see the team build i'm not so sure it couldnt be slightly less. That of course depends on the rest of the Brits we sign.
If limits stay at 13 and IF we go with 2 British goalies, Bowns & Whistle or Whistle +1 then we could afford 4 import D and 9 import forwards. Thats a little crazy. To think if we signed Perlini and Lacho that'd leave Kelsall 13rh forward again.
This is why a player such as Steve Lee is so important and why the Brits hold a premium. Look at the difference it makes. I also think it likely ends the idea of Oconnor coming to Panthers. I'm not so sure 3 import D is where we want to be at(Of course we could go that way). If we do though, that'd allow 10 import forwards. 😳
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 9:59:27 GMT
It's alright saying they could have 10 imports but at least 3 of them will be roster fillers and offer very little in the way of good points production.
If panthers plan on winning anything then they need 4 decent quality import d men.
Hopefully they pair Lee with a defensive d man to compensate his turnovers.
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Post by Bagheera on May 9, 2021 12:52:43 GMT
It's alright saying they could have 10 imports but at least 3 of them will be roster fillers and offer very little in the way of good points production. If panthers plan on winning anything then they need 4 decent quality import d men. Hopefully they pair Lee with a defensive d man to compensate his turnovers. Overall I agree. I've always believed we need top Brits playing with quality imports to enable the Brits to get better. I think 12/13 is still about right. We really need a Perlini standard forward at very least.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 15:02:36 GMT
It's alright saying they could have 10 imports but at least 3 of them will be roster fillers and offer very little in the way of good points production. If panthers plan on winning anything then they need 4 decent quality import d men. Hopefully they pair Lee with a defensive d man to compensate his turnovers. Overall I agree. I've always believed we need top Brits playing with quality imports to enable the Brits to get better. I think 12/13 is still about right. We really need a Perlini standard forward at very least. Agree need to be offering Hook a contract
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Post by wannabe2 on May 9, 2021 16:11:29 GMT
It's really shaping up nicely. I'm a little suprised in myself as I've always supported 13/14 imports but as I see the team build i'm not so sure it couldnt be slightly less. That of course depends on the rest of the Brits we sign. If limits stay at 13 and IF we go with 2 British goalies, Bowns & Whistle or Whistle +1 then we could afford 4 import D and 9 import forwards. Thats a little crazy. To think if we signed Perlini and Lacho that'd leave Kelsall 13rh forward again. This is why a player such as Steve Lee is so important and why the Brits hold a premium. Look at the difference it makes. I also think it likely ends the idea of Oconnor coming to Panthers. I'm not so sure 3 import D is where we want to be at(Of course we could go that way). If we do though, that'd allow 10 import forwards. 😳 Bownsy won’t sign for Panthers, it’s either Europe or Cardiff for Ben. More importantly let’s hope for a season 21/22, stay safe all.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 16:40:37 GMT
It's really shaping up nicely. I'm a little suprised in myself as I've always supported 13/14 imports but as I see the team build i'm not so sure it couldnt be slightly less. That of course depends on the rest of the Brits we sign. If limits stay at 13 and IF we go with 2 British goalies, Bowns & Whistle or Whistle +1 then we could afford 4 import D and 9 import forwards. Thats a little crazy. To think if we signed Perlini and Lacho that'd leave Kelsall 13rh forward again. This is why a player such as Steve Lee is so important and why the Brits hold a premium. Look at the difference it makes. I also think it likely ends the idea of Oconnor coming to Panthers. I'm not so sure 3 import D is where we want to be at(Of course we could go that way). If we do though, that'd allow 10 import forwards. 😳 Bownsy won’t sign for Panthers, it’s either Europe or Cardiff for Ben. More importantly let’s hope for a season 21/22, stay safe all. Are you his agent or has he personally told you this ? Just curious
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Post by wannabe2 on May 9, 2021 17:36:37 GMT
Close very very close.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 10, 2021 7:38:20 GMT
May 7th, 2015 "Matt won't be back, that's guaranteed".
May 8th, 2015 "He'y I got that one wrong big time".
His judgment cometh and that right soon...
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Post by bobness on May 10, 2021 8:17:21 GMT
May 7th, 2015 "Matt won't be back, that's guaranteed". May 8th, 2015 "He'y I got that one wrong big time". His judgment cometh and that right soon... One wrong in 6 years? I'd settle for that. Slightly surprised there doesn't seem to be much love for Garside on here. I guess it's because 0+0 from his 16 games wasn't going to attract any attention, but when you do your job (stopping goals being conceded) coolly, calmly, and with little fuss, even if you do it very well indeed, people don't tend to notice. I thought he had an excellent series.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 10, 2021 8:47:30 GMT
May 7th, 2015 "Matt won't be back, that's guaranteed". May 8th, 2015 "He'y I got that one wrong big time". His judgment cometh and that right soon... One wrong in 6 years? I'd settle for that. If only this was the case. Anyway, enough of that. Interesting to see Lee back, a bit left field this one I'd argue.
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Post by Walitzer on May 10, 2021 10:01:49 GMT
May 7th, 2015 "Matt won't be back, that's guaranteed". May 8th, 2015 "He'y I got that one wrong big time". His judgment cometh and that right soon... One wrong in 6 years? I'd settle for that. Slightly surprised there doesn't seem to be much love for Garside on here. I guess it's because 0+0 from his 16 games wasn't going to attract any attention, but when you do your job (stopping goals being conceded) coolly, calmly, and with little fuss, even if you do it very well indeed, people don't tend to notice. I thought he had an excellent series. I remember Garside looked shaky at the start of the series, I think I heard the commentators mention he wasn't 100% fit and might have been carrying an injury? Regardless I thought both Garside and Tetlow settled back into their roles well and were more than competant by the end of the group stage.
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Post by messier1851 on May 10, 2021 12:32:44 GMT
It's alright saying they could have 10 imports but at least 3 of them will be roster fillers and offer very little in the way of good points production. If panthers plan on winning anything then they need 4 decent quality import d men. Hopefully they pair Lee with a defensive d man to compensate his turnovers. Overall I agree. I've always believed we need top Brits playing with quality imports to enable the Brits to get better. I think 12/13 is still about right. We really need a Perlini standard forward at very least. Is there a chance we take a run at Scott Conway this summer?
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Post by Walitzer on May 10, 2021 15:07:19 GMT
Overall I agree. I've always believed we need top Brits playing with quality imports to enable the Brits to get better. I think 12/13 is still about right. We really need a Perlini standard forward at very least. Is there a chance we take a run at Scott Conway this summer? We probably stand a lot better chance of snagging him this year then we did the previous two seasons.
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Post by messier1851 on May 10, 2021 15:43:43 GMT
Is there a chance we take a run at Scott Conway this summer? We probably stand a lot better chance of snagging him this year then we did the previous two seasons. He's in the ECHL now isn't he, although he still has plenty of games before he is classed as a 'veteran', which is often what prompts players to move to Europe because it limits their North American options.
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Post by Walitzer on May 10, 2021 15:59:44 GMT
We probably stand a lot better chance of snagging him this year then we did the previous two seasons. He's in the ECHL now isn't he, although he still has plenty of games before he is classed as a 'veteran', which is often what prompts players to move to Europe because it limits their North American options. He's coming off a relatively poor season in the ECHL, while last season he was riding high, producing good points in the coast and earning a callup to the AHL. The season before that he looked like a promising talent leaving behind a solid NCAA college career.
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Post by bobness on May 10, 2021 17:54:16 GMT
Indeed, some somewhat average stats this season, for one reason or another. Not sure if there's any reason for that, to be fair? He's not played all games for the season, for example? Let's hope he hasn't got a very good agent, he could easily be EIHL bound if not.
Looking at the ECHL, pleasantly surprised to see ex-Star Anthony Beauregard is the top scorer. Sam Jardine has had a pretty good season too, outscoring team-mate Joey Haddad.
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Post by Bagheera on May 10, 2021 18:20:13 GMT
Conway is really difficult to guess at. Never been any real noise about him coming to the EIHL other than people putting 2&2 together.
Perhaps if we were likely to see him this coming season he'd have come for the Elite series and have been in the GB squad?
We could really do with adding some Brit quality but im not sure I can see Panthers adding someone of Conways ability if we already have Perlini. It would be great if we got them both of course. So much depends also on how we decide to build the squad, especially the goalie situation.
2 Brit goalies, 4 import Dmen, 9 import forwards means we only need 3 Brit forwards. Ollie, Perlini and Conway would be great. Then we'd probably carry 1 more as 13th forward. Not sure on the rules this coming season for young Brits. If the same ruling is there then we'd likely need Kelsall in the squad, thatd leave no place for Lacho. Like him or not I cant see Panthers letting him go.
Some potentially good problems for Gui and Tim to solve, but equally without Perlini or Conway we could be desperately scratching around to find a top end Brit.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on May 10, 2021 18:37:52 GMT
Conway is really difficult to guess at. Never been any real noise about him coming to the EIHL other than people putting 2&2 together. Perhaps if we were likely to see him this coming season he'd have come for the Elite series and have been in the GB squad? We could really do with adding some Brit quality but im not sure I can see Panthers adding someone of Conways ability if we already have Perlini. It would be great if we got them both of course. So much depends also on how we decide to build the squad, especially the goalie situation. 2 Brit goalies, 4 import Dmen, 9 import forwards means we only need 3 Brit forwards. Ollie, Perlini and Conway would be great. Then we'd probably carry 1 more as 13th forward. Not sure on the rules this coming season for young Brits. If the same ruling is there then we'd likely need Kelsall in the squad, thatd leave no place for Lacho. Like him or not I cant see Panthers letting him go. Some potentially good problems for Gui and Tim to solve, but equally without Perlini or Conway we could be desperately scratching around to find a top end Brit. Any rule that makes you keep Kelsall over Lachowicz is a rule that needs to be seriously looked at
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Post by wgray on May 10, 2021 20:00:45 GMT
I think the shape of our team will depend massively upon what happens with Jackson. I’ve seen rumours on Twitter about him going back to Belfast next season, and that he travelled to Belfast with Mark Garside after the Elite series had finished. Why? I’m not sure. Girlfriend from Belfast maybe, whatever the situation is, he still has connections there.
Now, if we can sign Whistle, and make him our number 1 with a young Brit backup then that puts us in a good position. 4 import D with Lee and Tetlow, 9 imports forwards with Ollie, and most probably Lacho, Perlini and Kelsall as 13th forward. That’s based on the previously discussed 13 imports.
However, if we don’t resign Whistle, or as has been rumoured, he prefers to share the load then it would leave us with:
Import1 Import2 Import3 Import4 Perlini Import5 Import6 Import7 Betteridge Import8 Lacho Kelsall
Import9 Import10 Import11 Lee Tetlow Import12
Import13 Brit
It’s all speculation at the minute, especially with the league not confirming roster rules, but I think we’ve got cause for optimism.
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Post by Bagheera on May 10, 2021 21:12:25 GMT
I think the shape of our team will depend massively upon what happens with Jackson. I’ve seen rumours on Twitter about him going back to Belfast next season, and that he travelled to Belfast with Mark Garside after the Elite series had finished. Why? I’m not sure. Girlfriend from Belfast maybe, whatever the situation is, he still has connections there. Now, if we can sign Whistle, and make him our number 1 with a young Brit backup then that puts us in a good position. 4 import D with Lee and Tetlow, 9 imports forwards with Ollie, and most probably Lacho, Perlini and Kelsall as 13th forward. That’s based on the previously discussed 13 imports. However, if we don’t resign Whistle, or as has been rumoured, he prefers to share the load then it would leave us with: Import1 Import2 Import3 Import4 Perlini Import5 Import6 Import7 Betteridge Import8 Lacho Kelsall Import9 Import10 Import11 Lee Tetlow Import12 Import13 Brit It’s all speculation at the minute, especially with the league not confirming roster rules, but I think we’ve got cause for optimism. That's exactly what we need, the league to confirm the rules for the year ahead.
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Post by Yotes on May 10, 2021 22:43:10 GMT
Not sure on the rules this coming season for young Brits. Presumably it'll be what they would've used for 20/21, had that happened? www.eliteleague.co.uk/article/216-roster-regulations-changed-for-2020-21-seasonSo U25, born 1996 or later. In that case Betteridge is still junior, just, for the last time. Or until they change the rules again. Lacho won't be going anywhere though, unless he wants to go. They'd just run with a healthy scratch.
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