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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 12:26:08 GMT
My thoughts here are that we’ve gone for the Lord/Keefe strategy - fresh out of playing career, young and will engage with fans. After cherno didn’t work out and the recent success of Devils and Giants it was very likely to be of a similar strategy. The difference here is Lord and Keefe had years playing at their clubs so a good understanding of the club culture etc. Probably for the best he doesn't have an understanding of our culture seeing as it's probably the worst thing about our club. I wouldn't expect much in year 1, as long as he can at least provide a bit of pride and entertainment I'm willing to give this a couple of years if it did mean a genuine change in our culture.
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Post by dill1015 on May 30, 2019 12:31:52 GMT
You shouldnt write someone off straight away, however this smacks of a they couldnt get who they wanted appointment.
Its done nothing to reasure me that a corners been turned. If anything im questioning if Doucet will be able to get the players we need/want.
Unlike some posters on here i dont want it to all go wrong just so i can say 'i told you so'. I hope Wallace is the right man, I just have no real faith he is.
Good luck Tim.
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Post by EMB on May 30, 2019 12:37:17 GMT
Looking at it from his point of view, it cant get worse than working for the Moody's, can it? 😂😂😂😂😂 He hasn't worked for Gary yet...joking aside at least he'll get paid, by the sounds of it still some of the MK squad waiting for wages.
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Post by Yotes on May 30, 2019 12:44:05 GMT
You shouldnt write someone off straight away, however this smacks of a they couldnt get who they wanted appointment. Must admit, I don't believe for a second he was first choice, no reason it would've taken so long for a start, but he's what we've got so let's see what happens.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 12:46:40 GMT
You very rarely get your first choice anyways. Let's see what happens first eh
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Post by kievthegreat on May 30, 2019 12:46:56 GMT
You shouldnt write someone off straight away, however this smacks of a they couldnt get who they wanted appointment. Must admit, I don't believe for a second he was first choice, no reason it would've taken so long for a start, but he's what we've got so let's see what happens. Wasn't he basically 'pre-signed' to coach MK if they got accepted to the league? On that basis he only became available a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by jdizpt8 on May 30, 2019 13:59:03 GMT
Considering he’s an ex steeler it might add some sauce back into those games at least. Let’s see what Tim and Gui can put on the ice.
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Post by loupowell52 on May 30, 2019 14:10:19 GMT
I think Wallace will do just fine PROVIDED that he and Doucet are left alone by the Panthers "Establishment". He had Milton Keynes giving one hundred percent every night and was hugely admired by their players and people behind the scenes. I would hope that player recruitment is a partnership between Doucet and Wallace as they will be the pair under the spotlight as far as results and performances go." Uncle Gary" and "his cohorts" should keep their distance from on-ice affairs. I am reliably informed that Wallace treats his players in an adult respectful manner and hope all of the players respond likewise.
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Post by DMS on May 30, 2019 14:58:08 GMT
Considering he’s an ex steeler it might add some sauce back into those games at least. You’ve got to be kidding! Heinz couldn’t even manage that!
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Post by cooperphil156 on May 30, 2019 14:58:45 GMT
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Post by Pies on May 30, 2019 15:01:06 GMT
If someone had said we were going to have a 100 game NHL player with experience in our league and on the continent as coach, would people have been happy? Are people only disappointed because it’s someone they have heard of?
I’m curious as to whether people are judging him on last season rather than the bigger picture of his CV?
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Post by DMS on May 30, 2019 15:05:47 GMT
If someone had said we were going to have a 100 game NHL player with experience in our league and on the continent as coach, would people have been happy? Are people only disappointed because it’s someone they have heard of? I’m curious as to whether people are judging him on last season rather than the bigger picture of his CV? Last season is all you can judge him on though. And whilst he inherited a sinking ship the results he obtained is enough to justify the scepticism and underwhelming nature of the announcement.
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Post by Optic on May 30, 2019 15:06:42 GMT
If someone had said we were going to have a 100 game NHL player with experience in our league and on the continent as coach, would people have been happy? Are people only disappointed because it’s someone they have heard of? I’m curious as to whether people are judging him on last season rather than the bigger picture of his CV? I think your spot on there... Considering the awful circumstances in MK last year, coach leaving, Wallace taking over and improving that squad with the ownership they had and players being unpaid whilst still being praised by their fanbase I can't wait to see what he can do with a bigger budget and more relaxed off ice atmosphere
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 15:20:53 GMT
And people went wax lyrical over Pasha who in turn was coach of cannon fodder in Dundee!
Wallace could be a shrewd move
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Post by cooperphil156 on May 30, 2019 15:40:49 GMT
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Post by wgray on May 30, 2019 15:58:08 GMT
I’ll admit I was a little bit underwhelmed at 12 o’clock. After the reported Ferland debacle I was expecting a big name who was going to come in and unite the fanbase, a person with a big coaching CV and a lot of experience to wow us all.
Having took a step back to reflect on the appointment I’m starting to think that this could be a good decision. What I expected (and partially wanted) maybe isn’t what we need, as we’ve seen it didn’t work with someone as experienced like Chernomaz.
As has been mentioned he has experience in the league, he’s faced adversity whilst coaching in MK, for which he has earnt a lot of respect and admiration. He has been presented an opportunity at the other end of the spectrum and if he is capable of getting the work ethic out of our team like he did in MK then he will have my support.
He’s not alone, he has Doucet to assist on the management side, hopefully they can construct a team that can excite us, one that we can be proud of and push towards a title challenge.
Welcome to Nottingham Tim.
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Post by Mark on May 30, 2019 16:59:54 GMT
The crucial thing for him is to be allowed to do his job. That is what concerns me most.
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Post by oldman on May 30, 2019 20:20:47 GMT
the one thing you can guarantee in here people will opt for negativity from the start, i think given he will need time and support this is a far better choice than someone who doesn't know the league at all, a youngish coach with lots of experience including trying to coach a team in pretty difficult circumstances , obviously when the season unfolds we will see what these two bring to the club which i expect will surprise and delight many !
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Post by Shaggy on May 30, 2019 21:39:17 GMT
Well, we were all so pumped up by the signing of Chernomaz before next season... and look how that turned out! Maybe reduced expectations could end up with better results? Doucet & Wallace... as with any appointments, there are positives and negatives. Negatives:- - Doucet has never been a Director Of Hockey before... zero experience - Wallace has had less than one season of coaching experience with a losing team - Wallace is an ex-Steeler! - there is the suspicion in some quarters that with these two being new/inexperienced, they may be little more than 'glove puppets' for The Panthers Establishment Positives:- - both Doucet & Wallace have experience in this league... something that Chernomaz didn't have - Wallace apparently managed to get the absolute best last season out of what was a poor MK team with very little in the way of resources and support - from what I can see, nobody in MK has a bad word to say about Wallace, despite them being bottom of the league. He apparently was very good & professional dealing with the players - it could be worse... it could be Paul Thompson! First and foremost, these two need to be given time and leeway... to develop a method of working, to learn their roles, to change the culture in the club... and time to build a team and a winning ethic. Chernomaz wasn't given enough time & leeway... Doucet & Wallace need at least a couple of years. Next season? - as long as we have a team that goes out there and busts a gut and plays the best hockey they can, that will be what I want to see. Trophies would be nice (of course) but first and foremost - good, hard-working, entertaining hockey.
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Post by Gilly on May 31, 2019 9:45:23 GMT
Forgetting Wallace's playing CV and the undoubted contacts he will have made, i really like this appointment now i've spent time thinking about it.
One thing which proves a good manager (imo) is a good man manager. Look in any sport, the most successful managers are more often than not, very good man managers.
Wallace has shown to be a good guy last year in MK, when the chips were down, the owners being a disgrace, and still players chose to play for him and enjoyed doing so.
He looks to me to be a studious type who knows the nuances of the game inside out - similar to Corey - lets just hope his league success it much improved.
Give him time and i think (and hope) he will come good
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 10:01:27 GMT
Like Gilly, I've had a good nights sleep and now I've thought more about it. It's a good appointment also. The main thing is he knows the league. You don't really need experience as such in this league you just need to be well respected by your peers for you to get the best out of them. I dont mean be dead pally with them and have pint or 10 with them now and again just be honest with them. Tim seemed to do that at MK and made them competitive in a awful situation. He must be given time though.
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Post by DMS on May 31, 2019 14:46:09 GMT
I can still understand why people were/ are underwhelmed by the news. It’s hard to not have levels of optimism and people can get wrapped up in their own dreams for who they wanted to come in.
It was an admirable job Wallace did at MK but that’s an incredibly unique situation he found himself in so in my opinion shouldn’t be used a benchmark or an experience to set expectations for how he will do for us. Despite that his experience of the league is definitely a positive.
As some have mentioned, pedigree and a cv doesn’t mean anything. Everyone had high expectations for Chernomaz and we got nothing. Corey had no expectations and delivered a wealth of silverware during his tenure so maybe Wallace will do the same. This is definitely a wait and see scenario but one i hope brings plenty of victories
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Post by cooperphil156 on May 31, 2019 17:12:51 GMT
There does seem to be need to change the culture at the club and hopefully these two together will bring this about. Wallace got the best out of a limited roster, while Panthers underachieved and rarely played for 3 periods. Overtime losses became the norm. If the spirit which Wallace engendered helps to prevent our underachievement it will be a start. He has also prepared for a coaching position by attending training courses, so with his previous experience it should help. As others have said judge the new regime after a few months and not on what some pundits on here wanted to happen.
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