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Post by nottinghamsenator on Jan 15, 2019 17:34:43 GMT
Am I right in thinking Barasso hasn't really contributed that much on the recruiting side?
Matheson recommended Climie and Barasso himself said he had no idea about Armstrong returning.
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Post by SteelerBlade on Jan 15, 2019 17:43:07 GMT
Am I right in thinking Barasso hasn't really contributed that much on the recruiting side? Matheson recommended Climie and Barasso himself said he had no idea about Armstrong returning. Barrasso knew of Climie, DeLuca was a Barrasso choice from a pile of CVs from agents. Westerling was signed by Matheson. Neiley, Armstrong & O'Connor were all recommended by Simms and Barrasso signed them off for Simms to negotiate (Barrasso had no prior knowledge of them, just made a few calls). That's what I heard. Seems Barrasso is understandably used to working under a GM who recruits a team to his criteria.
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Post by iginla on Jan 15, 2019 18:04:51 GMT
Am I right in thinking Barasso hasn't really contributed that much on the recruiting side? Matheson recommended Climie and Barasso himself said he had no idea about Armstrong returning. I don’t think Barrasso has contributed anything much. He’s got several better players now than when Thommo left and yet the Steelers are still in exactly the same place. Thommo didn’t have O’Connor,Neiley or Armstrong and Dowd was out injured,so you could argue Barrasso has done nothing to improve them. I think the Steelers fans are being blinded by Barrasso’s playing CV into thinking he’s a top coach.
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Post by bobness on Jan 15, 2019 18:06:59 GMT
You say Eberle is lucky.. He's not a patch on McGrath!! I'm amazed he still has a job ! Genuinely, Pidge, what do you base that opinion on? He's their joint 2nd top scorer in points and assists, with a similar quality of CV to Jordan Owens, for example, who has 2/3rds of his points total. He's the only Steeler who's been with the team all season who has a + rating. At a points per game of 0.82, he's in front of all the Panthers team except Guptill, Kovacs and Hurtubise.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 18:26:31 GMT
You say Eberle is lucky.. He's not a patch on McGrath!! I'm amazed he still has a job ! Genuinely, Pidge, what do you base that opinion on? He's their joint 2nd top scorer in points and assists, with a similar quality of CV to Jordan Owens, for example, who has 2/3rds of his points total. He's the only Steeler who's been with the team all season who has a + rating. At a points per game of 0.82, he's in front of all the Panthers team except Guptill, Kovacs and Hurtubise. As well as seeing him against us I've watched him in a few neutral games and my wife (who's a Steelers fan) thinks he hardly contributes and drifts in and out of games. He was brought in as a top line centre and hasn't lived up to potential. (He's this season's Wallace) and he doesn't work hard enough
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Jan 15, 2019 19:05:22 GMT
Am I right in thinking Barasso hasn't really contributed that much on the recruiting side? Matheson recommended Climie and Barasso himself said he had no idea about Armstrong returning. I don’t think Barrasso has contributed anything much. He’s got several better players now than when Thommo left and yet the Steelers are still in exactly the same place. Thommo didn’t have O’Connor,Neiley or Armstrong and Dowd was out injured,so you could argue Barrasso has done nothing to improve them. I think the Steelers fans are being blinded by Barrasso’s playing CV into thinking he’s a top coach. If you take out the “new coach bounce” so to speak, he’s been very very average. Even with that initial impact he can’t be that much over .500 or more likely is below that?
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Post by Yotes on Jan 15, 2019 19:18:25 GMT
Can't really judge him unless the Yorks keep him on next season. Their roster was (still is for a large part) an absolute car crash, you pretty much need to replace the lot. It'll be interesting to see if they risk it.
Still enough to beat us of course.
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Post by wannabe2 on Jan 15, 2019 19:24:13 GMT
Eberle should buy a lottery ticket. Far worse stats than Buzzeo, he must be the luckiest man in Sheffield today. It'll be interesting to see what calibre of player they can bring in. Most mid-season replacements are hardly earth shattering. You say Eberle is lucky.. He's not a patch on McGrath!! I'm amazed he still has a job ! Eberle is one of their best players.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 19:40:37 GMT
You say Eberle is lucky.. He's not a patch on McGrath!! I'm amazed he still has a job ! Eberle is one of their best players. I know
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Post by John Casey on Jan 15, 2019 21:31:29 GMT
TBH, if The Panthers have a bad weekend this week, I think The Panthers will be doing the same thing. Probably with some of their bigger names
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Post by EMB on Jan 15, 2019 22:34:33 GMT
Something needs to happen, I still think we’ll be lucky to win one game this weekend even tho we’ve managed to beat Dundee up there, 3rd game could be very interesting .
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Post by Joe on Jan 16, 2019 0:28:07 GMT
I’d be far more critical of Chernoclue than Barrasso. Barrasso has stepped in mid season and is trying to get the best out of a awful squad that was never his, where as Chernoclue had the whole of the off season to create his team and he’s had half a season to coach them and we are as bad as each other.
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Post by bobness on Jan 16, 2019 8:57:32 GMT
Eberle is one of their best players. I know In your opinions... I suppose it says it all about Steelers' season that "one of their best players" is a forward who has 16 points in 37 games, slightly better stats than Ollie Betteridge. For a player touted as being a "scoring threat whenever he's on the ice", I'd expect a lot more.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 10:28:39 GMT
In your opinions... I suppose it says it all about Steelers' season that "one of their best players" is a forward who has 16 points in 37 games, slightly better stats than Ollie Betteridge. For a player touted as being a "scoring threat whenever he's on the ice", I'd expect a lot more. He wasn't touted as a scoromf threat at all. He was billed as a agitator type, very similar to Nelson. I believe Steelers have got what they wanted out of him
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Post by bobness on Jan 16, 2019 13:07:43 GMT
In your opinions... I suppose it says it all about Steelers' season that "one of their best players" is a forward who has 16 points in 37 games, slightly better stats than Ollie Betteridge. For a player touted as being a "scoring threat whenever he's on the ice", I'd expect a lot more. He wasn't touted as a scoromf threat at all. He was billed as a agitator type, very similar to Nelson. I believe Steelers have got what they wanted out of him Ouch. From the Steelers own PR on signing. "He plays hard and he is a scoring threat whenever he is out there” sheffieldsteelers.co.uk/coaches-past-and-present-combine-to-bring-eberle-to-the-steelers/That's why I put it in quotes. Yes, it does say he'll be a gritty guy who can be a pest, and a Nelson type player, but it also says what I quoted. And, as you know, Nelson scored at the thick end of a point a game (0.87). He's a bit of a penalty magnet too, 25 minors so far this year, including 4 in one game? 3 assists in his last 12 games. Bolduc-esque.
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Post by Mozzy on Jan 16, 2019 16:53:32 GMT
He wasn't touted as a scoromf threat at all. He was billed as a agitator type, very similar to Nelson. I believe Steelers have got what they wanted out of him Ouch. From the Steelers own PR on signing. "He plays hard and he is a scoring threat whenever he is out there” sheffieldsteelers.co.uk/coaches-past-and-present-combine-to-bring-eberle-to-the-steelers/That's why I put it in quotes. Yes, it does say he'll be a gritty guy who can be a pest, and a Nelson type player, but it also says what I quoted. And, as you know, Nelson scored at the thick end of a point a game (0.87). He's a bit of a penalty magnet too, 25 minors so far this year, including 4 in one game? 3 assists in his last 12 games. Bolduc-esque. To be fair to Eberle, he spent most of the season rattling around the 3rd line, doing his high energy, agitator role very well. He recently got moved onto the top line when it was clear the overpaid one's on that line weren't doing the business. It hasn't suited him and his game has dropped off to match. Even though he's a forward, it isn't all about being a point per game man. But there is no doubt his stats have been harmed by what is around him. He is one of the few many fans would keep next season.
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Post by bobness on Jan 17, 2019 19:55:51 GMT
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Post by Yotes on Jan 17, 2019 19:58:33 GMT
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Jan 21, 2019 13:01:27 GMT
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Post by SteelerBlade on Jan 21, 2019 13:02:23 GMT
Apparently he's off to the Mulhouse Scorpions in the same league.
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