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Post by wgray on Jan 14, 2019 11:31:42 GMT
Panthers 0 for 8 in their last 8 games decided in OT. Playing for the extra point, all year, 3 for 12. 2 for 3 in PS games, 1 for 9 in OT. How many of those 8 were decided by powerplay goals?
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Post by bobness on Jan 14, 2019 12:07:39 GMT
Panthers 0 for 8 in their last 8 games decided in OT. Playing for the extra point, all year, 3 for 12. 2 for 3 in PS games, 1 for 9 in OT. How many of those 8 were decided by powerplay goals? Before last night, 2 lost on PPs (Blaze 9 Dec, Stars 14 Dec) and 1 on a penalty shot, last weekend vs Storm. First 4 OT losses were all at even strength.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 14, 2019 12:09:41 GMT
How many of those 8 were decided by powerplay goals? Before last night, 2 lost on PPs (Blaze 9 Dec, Stars 14 Dec) and 1 on a penalty shot, last weekend vs Storm. First 4 OT losses were all at even strength. Was Gultil on the ice for the 'even strengths'?
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Post by iginla on Jan 14, 2019 12:31:06 GMT
Last 16 games....4 wins and 12 losses.
Absolutely Shocking ! ๐
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Post by Mark on Jan 14, 2019 13:16:18 GMT
Last 16 games....4 wins and 12 losses. Absolutely Shocking ! ๐ The results of a low budget, small rink team with poor finances and resources.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 14, 2019 13:18:15 GMT
Last 16 games....4 wins and 12 losses. Absolutely Shocking ! ๐ When you present the facts it's really poor isn't it.
Corey wasn't the only problem, clearly.
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Post by texpef on Jan 14, 2019 13:22:29 GMT
Last 16 games....4 wins and 12 losses. Absolutely Shocking ! ๐ When you present the facts it's really poor isn't it.
Corey wasn't the only problem, clearly.
Its really kind of difficult to polish that particular turd but im sure the management will give it a go....... good seats still available...
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Post by bobness on Jan 14, 2019 13:23:33 GMT
Before last night, 2 lost on PPs (Blaze 9 Dec, Stars 14 Dec) and 1 on a penalty shot, last weekend vs Storm. First 4 OT losses were all at even strength. Was Gultil on the ice for the 'even strengths'? Keep up, I've already answered this. For one, yes. (8 Dec vs Storm) On 3 of the 4, Olsen and Kovacs were on together, including the 17 Nov game, where, 3 on 3, Chernomaz sent out 2 forwards (Kovacs and Farmer) neither of whom had taken a single face off the season so far. The face off (fairly predictably, some might say) was lost and Devils scored about 3 seconds later).
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 14, 2019 13:26:45 GMT
Was Gultil on the ice for the 'even strengths'? Keep up, I've already answered this. For one, yes. (8 Dec vs Storm) On 3 of the 4, Olsen and Kovacs were on together, including the 17 Nov game, where, 3 on 3, Chernomaz sent out 2 forwards (Kovacs and Farmer) neither of whom had taken a single face off the season so far. The face off (fairly predictably, some might say) was lost and Devils scored about 3 seconds later). Ah, apologies. Fine work Sir!!
My god that's crap coaching.
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Post by bobness on Jan 14, 2019 13:26:51 GMT
For a player whose attention to detail in his own end is often questioned, Guptil is still rocking along at a healthy + figure. He does lead the team in "minuses", yes, but he's also putting the "plusses" on the board at even strength too. In fact, he leads the team in even (or shorthanded) points as well as total points.
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Post by bobness on Jan 14, 2019 13:34:40 GMT
Keep up, I've already answered this. For one, yes. (8 Dec vs Storm) On 3 of the 4, Olsen and Kovacs were on together, including the 17 Nov game, where, 3 on 3, Chernomaz sent out 2 forwards (Kovacs and Farmer) neither of whom had taken a single face off the season so far. The face off (fairly predictably, some might say) was lost and Devils scored about 3 seconds later). Ah, apologies. Fine work Sir!!
My god that's crap coaching.
I very, very rarely criticise players or coaches directly for "in game" performance but yes, when I watched that back, I did scratch my head more than a bit. If there's any part of a game where face off winning is ultra-important, it's surely OT, and most especially, in your own zone? You make sure you get your gun centre(s) out there, even if they instantly go for a change when the face off is won? Interestingly, since that game, Farmer has taken 101 face offs, winning 46 of them. Kovacs is still not an overly face off guy, he's 2 for 4 on the season. (Note, the Steelers weren't kind enough to do the face off stats for the 27 December game).
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Post by EMB on Jan 14, 2019 13:46:30 GMT
For a player whose attention to detail in his own end is often questioned, Guptil is still rocking along at a healthy + figure. He does lead the team in "minuses", yes, but he's also putting the "plusses" on the board at even strength too. In fact, he leads the team in even (or shorthanded) points as well as total points. As Kammy would say "Unbelievable Jeff"
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 14, 2019 13:54:57 GMT
Ah, apologies. Fine work Sir!!
My god that's crap coaching.
I very, very rarely criticise players or coaches directly for "in game" performance but yes, when I watched that back, I did scratch my head more than a bit. If there's any part of a game where face off winning is ultra-important, it's surely OT, and most especially, in your own zone? You make sure you get your gun centre(s) out there, even if they instantly go for a change when the face off is won? Interestingly, since that game, Farmer has taken 101 face offs, winning 46 of them. Kovacs is still not an overly face off guy, he's 2 for 4 on the season. (Note, the Steelers weren't kind enough to do the face off stats for the 27 December game). Before it was harder to get kicked out of the circle you would have your two best face off winners out there for the crucial draws. Not our coach though, no need for that kind of logic.
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Post by bobness on Jan 14, 2019 15:21:20 GMT
Some stats from the weekend. (Devils stats from gamesheet, not checked yet)
Bolduc, no points, not on ice for any goal scored and -4, as well as on ice for one of the 2 PP goals against. Pither, first goal in 9 games, +1 for the weekend. Billingsley and Olsen both had 2 points for the weekend and no "minuses" in either game. Lee a net -2 vs Devils (+2, -4) Lacho, no minuses and +1. Stewart, first goal and +1 for the weekend (+2 vs Devils)
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Post by DJP on Jan 14, 2019 17:23:57 GMT
Bolduc has 3+0 in his last 14 games. Billingsley has 1+5 in his last 8 games.
Hurtubise has no goals in his last 10 games and only one in his last 15 (though he has 11 assists in those 15). Rheault is 0+1 in 7 games since his return.
Figures include CC games where applicable.
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Post by DJP on Jan 14, 2019 17:45:49 GMT
Garnett's save percentage in his last 10 League games is 87.71 compared to 91.96 for the previous 26 he played in. Munson currently has a save percentage of 90.90 from four League games.
Of goalies with more than 720 League minutes played, Garnett is fourth in terms of save percentage (90.9) behind Beskorowany (93.0), Bowns and Killeen (both 91.6). Sjรถgren has played most minutes (2245:07) followed by Owen (2164:16), Garnett (2161:15), Bowns (2132:21) and Ginn (2131:46).
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Post by DJP on Jan 14, 2019 17:53:31 GMT
For all Olsen's qualities, he is only 16th in the list of defence scoring leaders, with 7+11=18.
Fournier has a staggering 15+32=47, Ackered 19+17=36, Roach 3+32=35, Dallas Ehrhardt 11+21=32 and Craige 4+27=31 and there are a further nine players with 20 pts or more, all of whom have played at least three fewer games than Olsen and in four cases between 9 and 17 games fewer.
This is not to disparage Olsen's all-round game in any way, more to encourage him to just shoot more often!
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Post by bobness on Jan 14, 2019 17:55:12 GMT
Bolduc has 3+0 in his last 14 games. Billingsley has 1+5 in his last 8 games. Hurtubise has no goals in his last 10 games and only one in his last 15 (though he has 11 assists in those 15). Rheault is 0+1 in 7 games since his return. Figures include CC games where applicable. That Bolduc stat is a shocker, to me anyway. He ought to be a PPG player in this league. I assume the Billingsley stat is there for comparison. ("Compare his stats to the bloke who's been scratched 3 times lately and still has twice as many points...") Hurtubise is at least laying on the helpers, and I have to say, he gets my vote as hardest working forward. The amount of times he's the first forward back is notable. He looks like he's lost a lot of confidence lately to me, though. As evidenced by a reluctance to unload the cannon he has. Rheault has been conspicuous by his almost total absence since his return. Whilst he is coming back from a major injury, he was signed to be a top 6 forward, but his stats say he isn't playing anything like it. 0+2 in 11 games is nowhere near where he should be.
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Post by PantherB on Jan 14, 2019 18:15:54 GMT
There really are some brutal statistics, good lord what a dumpster fire of a roster.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 14, 2019 18:18:50 GMT
For all Olsen's qualities, he is only 16th in the list of defence scoring leaders, with 7+11=18. Fournier has a staggering 15+32=47, Ackered 19+17=36, Roach 3+32=35, Dallas Ehrhardt 11+21=32 and Craige 4+27=31 and there are a further nine players with 20 pts or more, all of whom have played at least three fewer games than Olsen and in four cases between 9 and 17 games fewer. This is not to disparage Olsen's all-round game in any way, more to encourage him to just shoot more often! Hang on, I thought Olsen was the best offensive dman in the league?!
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Post by dill1015 on Jan 14, 2019 18:42:14 GMT
For all Olsen's qualities, he is only 16th in the list of defence scoring leaders, with 7+11=18. Fournier has a staggering 15+32=47, Ackered 19+17=36, Roach 3+32=35, Dallas Ehrhardt 11+21=32 and Craige 4+27=31 and there are a further nine players with 20 pts or more, all of whom have played at least three fewer games than Olsen and in four cases between 9 and 17 games fewer. This is not to disparage Olsen's all-round game in any way, more to encourage him to just shoot more often! Hang on, I thought Olsen was the best offensive dman in the league?! Hes massively overrated by some one here. Hes a decent player, but nowhere near Sauve who he replaced.
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Post by PantherB on Jan 14, 2019 18:49:19 GMT
Hang on, I thought Olsen was the best offensive dman in the league?! Hes massively overrated by some one here. Hes a decent player, but nowhere near Sauve who he replaced. He is good but I think he's shining brighter than he normally would due to the dullness of those around him. If he had a good team around him and better coaching, I think he would be one of the best defencemen in the league.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 14, 2019 19:02:24 GMT
Far too many of the Panthers team are massively overrated and I think a lot more of them would have been dumped by teams that have ambitions. We all had black and gold specs back in September but now the reality is sinking in hard and fast.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 14, 2019 19:13:18 GMT
Hang on, I thought Olsen was the best offensive dman in the league?! Hes massively overrated by some one here. Hes a decent player, but nowhere near Sauve who he replaced. Different players. Suave was pure off dman, Olsen is two way.
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Post by iginla on Jan 14, 2019 20:02:02 GMT
Far too many of the Panthers team are massively overrated and I think a lot more of them would have been dumped by teams that have ambitions. We all had black and gold specs back in September but now the reality is sinking in hard and fast. Not quite all of us ! ๐
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