Panthers pub quiz, 20 games in.

[bobness]

By popular (OK, only one so far, but it's a good idea) request, here's the pub quiz thread.

Right, 20 games into the season (one third) let's have a pub quiz. Bit of light relief.
League games only.

1. Of the teams I have stats for (3 of 20 games have no face off stats...), who have Panthers won most faceoffs against (percentage wise)? Which Panther (minimum 50 face offs) is percentage wise, best at face offs so far? And worst?
2. Which Panther has taken the most minor penalties?
3. What is Panthers favourite (i.e. most called) infraction to commit and be called a penalty on?
4. What's the longest points scoring streak a Panthers player has been on this year? And who?
5. Since the end of the first period of the game on 14 October vs Belfast, Panthers have had 30 PP opportunities. How many PPG have been scored on those 30? Clue, prior to that, PP stats were 13 for 51.
6. In those 20 games, how many man games have been lost to injury?
7. How many occasions have Panthers been on the powerplay, only to take a penalty themselves?
8. How many too many men penalties have there been called against Panthers so far?
9. How many more penalty minutes have been called on opponents than Panthers in those 20 games?
10. Which 2 Panthers have the top +/- on GWGs scored? And worst on conceded?
11. Which players have the best/worst +/- stats (as I record them) at home only, and away only?
12. Since game 7 (i.e. game 8 onwards) how much have Panthers been outshot by in the second period?

[Walitzer]

Seen as its a pub quiz, no checking Elite Prospects:

1. Coventry Blaze, from the most dominant game we played.

2. Luke Pither, hasn't fought or taken a 2+10 IIRC, unlike players with higher PMs.

3. Hooking

4. 5 Games, Hurtubise

5. 8

6. 25

7. 4

8. 3

9. -30 (Trick question?)

10. Olsen / Lepine

11. Same as question 10.

12. 12 Goals

[Gilly]

Nov 14, 2018 10:44:34 GMT bobness said:

By popular (OK, only one so far, but it's a good idea) request, here's the pub quiz thread.

Right, 20 games into the season (one third) let's have a pub quiz. Bit of light relief.
League games only.

1. Of the teams I have stats for (3 of 20 games have no face off stats...), who have Panthers won most faceoffs against (percentage wise)? Which Panther (minimum 50 face offs) is percentage wise, best at face offs so far? And worst?
2. Which Panther has taken the most minor penalties?
3. What is Panthers favourite (i.e. most called) infraction to commit and be called a penalty on?
4. What's the longest points scoring streak a Panthers player has been on this year? And who?
5. Since the end of the first period of the game on 14 October vs Belfast, Panthers have had 30 PP opportunities. How many PPG have been scored on those 30? Clue, prior to that, PP stats were 13 for 51.
6. In those 20 games, how many man games have been lost to injury?
7. How many occasions have Panthers been on the powerplay, only to take a penalty themselves?
8. How many too many men penalties have there been called against Panthers so far?
9. How many more penalty minutes have been called on opponents than Panthers in those 20 games?
10. Which 2 Panthers have the top +/- on GWGs scored? And worst on conceded?
11. Which players have the best/worst +/- stats (as I record them) at home only, and away only?
12. Since game 7 (i.e. game 8 onwards) how much have Panthers been outshot by in the second period?

1. Dundee and Henderson-best, Lachowicz Worst
2. Guptill
3. Slashing
4. Kovacs - 7 games?
5. 8
6. 40
7. 8
8. 7
9. 14
10. Top- Kovacs, Perlini Worst - Lepine, Biggs
11 Home Best - Pither, Home worst - Lepine, Away Best - Guptill Away Worst - Biggs
12. 68

[bobness]

Nov 14, 2018 12:40:27 GMT Walitzer said:

Seen as its a pub quiz, no checking Elite Prospects:

1. Coventry Blaze, from the most dominant game we played.

2. Luke Pither, hasn't fought or taken a 2+10 IIRC, unlike players with higher PMs.

3. Hooking

4. 5 Games, Hurtubise

5. 8

6. 25

7. 4

8. 3

9. -30 (Trick question?)

10. Olsen / Lepine

11. Same as question 10.

12. 12 Goals

Right...
Pither has indeed taken most minors, yes. 11 so far. 3 of which have been scored on by the opposition.
Olsen and Lepine are best/worst +/- at home, +6, -5 respectively. 2 different players are best/worst away.

#6 is 26, you can have that for "one year out".
#8 is 4. Similarly generous.
#10, Olsen is right (+4), but it's not Lepine.

[bobness]

Nov 14, 2018 13:02:30 GMT Gilly said:

1. Dundee and Henderson-best, Lachowicz Worst
2. Guptill
3. Slashing
4. Kovacs - 7 games?
5. 8
6. 40
7. 8
8. 7
9. 14
10. Top- Kovacs, Perlini Worst - Lepine, Biggs
11 Home Best - Pither, Home worst - Lepine, Away Best - Guptill Away Worst - Biggs
12. 68

#1 Not Dundee, it's Pither and Lacho. 59.4% and 41.1% respectively.
#5. Both way over so far.
#7 is 7, you can have that.
#10 I wanted one each, to make a total of two, my apologies, badly worded. Olsen is +4 on GWGs scored, Perlini -6 on GWGs conceded.
#11 Lepine is right for home. Biggs is right for away, -5.
#12, the answer is the ultimate answer. To life, the universe, and everything.

[endisforever91]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the answer to #1 is Storm, we could barely buy a face-off win in that opening home-and-home.

[pdusa]

Is the season really this boring?

[bobness]

Nov 15, 2018 3:38:28 GMT pdusa said:

Is the season really this boring?

Depends on your definition.
If you think boring is posting pointless, needless negative comments on internet forums then maybe.
If you think boring is just whinging that the team are inconsistent, the owner makes too much profit, the fans are taken for granted and that there aren't enough players, then maybe.

It's never boring to me. Not for 27 years.
I'm trying to stimulate some collective grey matter, with, God forbid, a few facts (that people may not know, so they can have an educated guess), presented in a light-hearted "no prizes, just the taking part" way. A bit like "Fun With Flags" (if you get the reference). Thanks to Walitzer and Ginny for joining in.
It's not compulsory to participate, but I see no need to be negative for the sake of it.
Mind you, I do post on here now and again, so it's not like I'm new to that.

You could always join in, just for the fun of it?

[bobness]

Nov 15, 2018 0:20:13 GMT endisforever91 said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if the answer to #1 is Storm, we could barely buy a face-off win in that opening home-and-home.

Vs Storm (those first 2 league games), Panthers are 71 for 145, 49.0% overall on face offs.
42 for 69, 60.9% at home, 29 for 76, 38.2% away.
Pither 22 for 36 combined.

Looks like there could easily be some home bias there.
How do you tell if a face off is "won". What's the definition?
I'd go for "the winner of a face off is whichever team gets control of the puck and directs its motion in a controlled manner first directly after the face off".

[Yotes]

Which questions are still unanswered? Can't keep up.

For 5 I'll go for 1 from 30.

[bobness]

Nov 15, 2018 9:07:39 GMT Yotes said:

Which questions are still unanswered? Can't keep up.

For 5 I'll go for 1 from 30.

Close enough!
2 for 30, 0 for the last 15.
The PP has gone spectacularly pear shaped lately.

[Yotes]

Blimey, that is bad. I couldn't remember a PPG but figured it couldn't be zero.

#12, given the clue, must be 42.

[bobness]

Nov 15, 2018 10:25:34 GMT Yotes said:

#12, given the clue, must be 42.

Of course.
Only 2 of those games have Panthers outshot their opponents in period 2.
Period 1, shots identical on the season.
Period 3, Panthers have 41 more shots than their opponents.

That pretty much sums up the bang average Panthers game for me.
Even first, poor second, good third.

[Yotes]

Assuming #3 isn't the already guessed hooking or slashing, I'll try the third of the holy trinity: tripping.

[spik]

Can I add a little trivia here?

Next year we will celebrate GB in the top tier of World Championship competition.

1) Name Panthers staff who have appeared for GB that are in the top 10 most capped.
2) Who has scored the most goals for GB who has played for Nottingham?
3) Who has the record of 'most points' for somebody to have played for Nottingham?

[bobness]

Nov 15, 2018 15:18:16 GMT Yotes said:

Assuming #3 isn't the already guessed hooking or slashing, I'll try the third of the holy trinity: tripping.

Roughing and tripping, 12 each.

[bobness]

The answers, for anyone who is suitably interested, are as follows...

1. Of the teams I have stats for (3 of 20 games have no face off stats...), who have Panthers won most faceoffs against (percentage wise)? Steelers, 34 for 59, 57.6%
1a. Which Panther (minimum 50 face offs) is percentage wise, best at face offs so far? And worst? Pither, 190 for 324, 59.4%, Lachowicz, 37 for 90, 41.1%
2. Which Panther has taken the most minor penalties? Pither, 11.
3. What is Panthers favourite (i.e. most called) infraction to commit and be called a penalty on? Roughing and Tripping, 12 each.
4. What's the longest points scoring streak a Panthers player has been on this year? And who? 6 games, Guptill, between games 2 to 7 inclusive. No-one else has gone over 4 games consecutive points scoring.
5. Since the end of the first period of the game on 14 October vs Belfast, Panthers have had 30 PP opportunities. How many PPG have been scored on those 30? Clue, prior to that, PP stats were 13 for 51. 2. Panthers are 0 for their last 15 PPs.(Not much of a clue was it?)
6. In those 20 games, how many man games have been lost to injury? 26. Rheault 16 and counting, Henderson 3 and counting, no-one else over 2.
7. How many occasions have Panthers been on the powerplay, only to take a penalty themselves? Seven. Annoying.
8. How many too many men penalties have there been called against Panthers so far? Four. Twice as many as conceded by the opposition in those games.
9. How many more penalty minutes have been called on opponents than Panthers in those 20 games? 7. Panthers have taken 320 minutes, the opposition 327.
10. Which 2 Panthers have the top +/- on GWGs scored? And worst on conceded? Olsen, +4 on GWGs scored; Perlini -6 on GWGs conceded.
11. Which players have the best/worst +/- stats (as I record them) at home only, and away only? Home, Olsen +6, Lepine -5; away Rissling +5, Biggs -5.
12. Since game 7 (i.e. game 8 onwards) how much have Panthers been outshot by in the second period? 42. Between games 8 and 17, Panthers only outshot their opponents once in the second period, with a net shot difference of -37 in that time.

Phew...

[No 29]

Thanks bobness. Following on from Q9, what are the current figures for our PPs compared to number of PKs?

[spik]

Nov 22, 2018 16:19:37 GMT No 29 said:

Thanks bobness. Following on from Q9, what are the current figures for our PPs compared to number of PKs?

AS regards Pims only......Nottingham 386 v 374 against us. After 24 games.

91 PP opportunities with 18 goals scored yet 3 SHG against us. 19.8% 6th best

Suffering 110 times Pen killing with 18 scored against us , no SHG scored by us. 83.6% 4th best

Overall 6th best.

[bobness]

Looking at the game sheets and recording them in detail, I sometimes get different numbers to the EIHL sheets.
Sometimes, I think the PP and SH chances are recorded as a simple, "number of penalties" so if a team takes 5 minors in the game, the opposition get 5 PP chances (according to the gamesheet). This is fine if nothing overlaps, but if a team takes a minor, then another 90 seconds later, you get 3 PPs, a 90 second 5 on 4, a 30 second 5 on 3 and another 90 second 5 on 4.
For example, last Flyers game, the league sheet has Panthers 3 for 5 on the PK.
elite.wttstats.pointstreak.com/boxscore.html?gameid=3344377

I get 4 for 6, as there were 6 Fife PPs, with 2 PP goals conceded.
Panthers took 5 minors that caused PPs (the final Kovacs penalty was coincidental, the 2 penalties at the same time caused a 5 on 3, then a 5 on 4) but the Stevie Lee penalty at 17.51 overlapped the Pither penalty at 15.55, for 4 seconds. 2 penalties thus caused 3 PPs, even though one was a very short one.
Thus there were 4 5 on 4 PPs (1 scored on) and 2 5 on 3 PPs (1 scored on) and that makes 6.

After 22 games in the league, I get Panthers at 16 for 88 on the PP, 18.81%. First 11 games it was 12 for 50, 24.00%, last 11 games it's been 4 for 38, 10.53%. Quite why it's been poor lately, I'm not sure, but I'm sure someone will tell.

[bobness]

By the same token, after 22 league games, I get the PK stats to be 82 for 101, 82.19%. The 11 game splits are 40 for 47, 85.11%, and 42 for 54, 77.78%.

All of which tells me that a big issue with Panthers form of late has been the inefficacy of the special teams.

[bobness]

16 for 88 is 18.18%.
82 for 101 is 81.19%.
(I'm in the corner, feeling shame)
So our "Special teams percentage" (which is the PP and PK added, and is "good" if you're greater than 100) is less than 100% currently.

[No 29]

Thanks to both of you for your replies and good that presumably we're now back over that magic 100% on special teams

[bobness]

Dec 3, 2018 11:03:22 GMT No 29 said:

Thanks to both of you for your replies and good that presumably we're now back over that magic 100% on special teams

Panthers are 5 for their last 11 on the PP, 0 for the previous 22...!

League PP is now 20/97 = 20.62%, PK is 101/121 = 83.47%
Magic special teams number is thus 104.09%.

[spik]

Nov 15, 2018 16:32:39 GMT spik said:

Can I add a little trivia here?

Next year we will celebrate GB in the top tier of World Championship competition.

1) Name Panthers staff who have appeared for GB that are in the top 10 most capped.
2) Who has scored the most goals for GB who has played for Nottingham?
3) Who has the record of 'most points' for somebody to have played for Nottingham?

If I can offer the answers to these above.

1) Tait 110, Weaver 96, Clarke 92, M.Myers 87 and Richardson 77.
2) Clarke 29
3) Weaver 69